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Aaron Saxon on Caliwog blog - interesting post

AlphOhm

AlphOhm

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Aaron who?

:hysterical:





"I will pay $500,000 to a group of Independents – that are highly publicly visible if that group of 50 persons will outperform 50 members of Anon in a proper IQ test."

Interesting. Where would Aaron get $500k to spend?

Or maybe he is just lying.
 
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rhansrider

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Just to give you a taste of Marty's latest, here is the first paragraph:

"I have been criticized by Scientology haters for not laying blame for the abuses and demise of the church of Scientology on L Ron Hubbard. Some have pointed to my refusal to credit the Fair Game Policy (SPs may be tricked, cheated, lied to, sued or destroyed without any recourse to Scientology justice) as being the chief motivating policy behind the evil and criminal deeds Miscavige’s Office of Special Affairs (OSA) and RTC routinely commit against those who refuse to comply with the dictator’s reign. My response was, and is, that 99% of staff, including the Sea Org, have not even heard of the Fair Game policy, so of course they do not apply it."
 
Feral

Feral

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AlphOhm said:
Aaron who?

:hysterical:





"I will pay $500,000 to a group of Independents – that are highly publicly visible if that group of 50 persons will outperform 50 members of Anon in a proper IQ test."

Intersting. Where would Aaron get $500k to spend?

Or maybe he is just lying.
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That Marty is being an ass doesn't make Aaron Saxton any less of one.

Aaron couldn't find $500 let alone $500,000.
 
Feral

Feral

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rhansrider said:
Just to give you a taste of Marty's latest, here is the first paragraph:

"I have been criticized by Scientology haters for not laying blame for the abuses and demise of the church of Scientology on L Ron Hubbard. Some have pointed to my refusal to credit the Fair Game Policy (SPs may be tricked, cheated, lied to, sued or destroyed without any recourse to Scientology justice) as being the chief motivating policy behind the evil and criminal deeds Miscavige’s Office of Special Affairs (OSA) and RTC routinely commit against those who refuse to comply with the dictator’s reign. My response was, and is, that 99% of staff, including the Sea Org, have not even heard of the Fair Game policy, so of course they do not apply it."
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You might be surprised that the bolded statement above is actually true. It is also true that all Scientologists KNOW that SPs are blocking mankind's only chance at freedom and the "greatest good for the greatest number" would dictate their removal by any means available.

As a result of that it is a very misleading argument.

Hubbard tells a story about a King that banished the lepers from his country, see, they were all beggars and would camp at a place of commerce until they were offered enough money to leave, a sort of extortion. So the wise old King put a ship at the dock and told the lepers that they could board the ship and it would take them to a land of milk and honey.

Well, the guileless lepers got on board and the ship was promptly sailed to the middle of the harbour and set alight.

It doesn't take a very long exposure to Hubbard's ideals before you get the idea really.

It takes a considerably longer exposure before you can make those ideals your own.
 
shadow

shadow

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AlphOhm said:
Aaron who?

:hysterical:





"I will pay $500,000 to a group of Independents – that are highly publicly visible if that group of 50 persons will outperform 50 members of Anon in a proper IQ test."

Interesting. Where would Aaron get $500k to spend?

Or maybe he is just lying.
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I bet, Aaron does not know what a "proper" IQ test is. It is not a simple test administered multiple times, which results in a general increase just from familiarity (as is sometimes misused to "show" how an activity that you completed has increased your IQ to further increase the feeling that the activity had a beneficial effect).

A "proper" IQ test is composed of multiple sections covering long and short term memory, visual-spatial abilities, processing speed, word decoding, etc, that are selected based on what potential learning issues are being explored and evaluated. It can be useful if skillfully given and evaluated, or it can be a pile of steaming cr*p if misused.
rhansrider said:
Just to give you a taste of Marty's latest, here is the first paragraph:

"I have been criticized by Scientology haters for not laying blame for the abuses and demise of the church of Scientology on L Ron Hubbard. Some have pointed to my refusal to credit the Fair Game Policy (SPs may be tricked, cheated, lied to, sued or destroyed without any recourse to Scientology justice) as being the chief motivating policy behind the evil and criminal deeds Miscavige’s Office of Special Affairs (OSA) and RTC routinely commit against those who refuse to comply with the dictator’s reign. My response was, and is, that 99% of staff, including the Sea Org, have not even heard of the Fair Game policy, so of course they do not apply it."
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At one time, 99% of all Catholics had not heard accusations of priest abuses and protection of these priest by all levels of the hierarchy. But as some point these things tend to reach critical mass and you can no longer deny the existence of such policies or your silent complicity with the policies.
Look at another policy-about only using "Scientology justice"...That tends to work in the favor of the person making the most donations at the moment and/or keeps things that might cause a flap covered up rather than applying any real justice. When a child molester is dealt with only internally and not turned over to wog justice, there is no justice for those children who "pulled it in" or for those children yet to encounter this molester. This is true in any group that hides these things because they reflect badly on the group, Scn or other.
 
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Mark A. Baker

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rhansrider said:
Just to give you a taste of Marty's latest, here is the first paragraph:

" ... My response was, and is, that 99% of staff, including the Sea Org, have not even heard of the Fair Game policy, so of course they do not apply it."
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Which is to admit that the Co$ doesn't even know its "own tech". :eyeroll:

As I recall, I read Fair Game for the first time when I was a public back in '79. So which is it? The Co$ has been practicing scientology for the last 30 years, or they haven't been practicing scientology for the last 30 years? :confused2:


Mark A. Baker :p
 
Sindy

Sindy

Crusader
The IQ test that Aaron cites an example of is actually the Leadership Test in Scientology, not the IQ test.
 
Feral

Feral

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Aaron never lets the facts get in the way of his theories.

He states;

Even Scientology’s biggest critics in Australia still sit there working out how they will go OT and working out how to find another path to eternal memory and life.
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Yeah?

None that I know of shit for brains.
 
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TheSneakster

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supafreak said:
I can't be fucked reading Aaron's single-sentence paragraphs. :duh:
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Whenever you read his stuff, just pretend it's Bill Shatner doing Captain Kirk's melodramatic speech pattern!! :eyeroll:

Michael A. Hobson
I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.
 
Emma

Emma

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Hey Kev I think you upset the powerful and great Aaron Saxton.

http://caliwog.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/aaron-saxton-on-the-scientology-mindset/#comments

aaron saxton | November 2, 2010 at 9:02 pm |
I have to laugh, I visited ESMB and saw some sour grapes from some people over there commenting about my comments. Seeing as they have no balls to post it here. Ferrel assuming i was talking about him in my comments.

Most of all from Kevin Mackey’s statements amused me. Yes I have actually done an official I.Q. test – have you , Kevin? Also, interesting on your comment about me finding money – seeing as we know you can’t, you gave it all away to Scientology – after all that is what your court case is really all about, isn’t it, Kevin?

Let’s quote the great Kevin Mackey “Scientolgoy is the art of self-delusion.” followed by a statement later “Let’s let Scientolgoy go free and wild.” Sure you don’t belong on MR blog there mate?

And then there is the fact you took your brain damaged child to Scientology to heal them…good one Kevin. Your a source I look up to…totally and sincerely…

aaron saxton | November 2, 2010 at 9:09 pm |
I think it is fucking apauling that a guy is sitting there struggling to get a farm in order while he can look back and say with stupid pride “I gave a million dollars to Scientology.” What about putting aside a FRACTION of that money to your kid? the one that needs on-going assistance probably for life from what I understand. I see this same stupid performance in so many Scientologists and ex-Scientologists is is just sickening. Fuck the kids – I’m going OT… fuck the spouse, I’m going with someone who is a Scientologist.

I’ll get a lecture from a man when one steps up. And you, Kevin Mackey, are no man – you’re not even a good father in my opinion, but seeing as you don’t care for my opinion, brush it off, like your responsibilities and excuses for your failures.
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