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Elliott
Nonsense, Mimsey clearly has her ethics in, has confidently postulated her reality with no doubts or reservations, has no unhandled outpoints, and is in a condition of power. There are no coincidences. Luck favors the prepared.
an "OT" experience
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Nonsense, Mimsey clearly has her ethics in, has confidently postulated her reality with no doubts or reservations, has no unhandled outpoints, and is in a condition of power. There are no coincidences. Luck favors the prepared.
ThetanExterior
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A few years ago I had a guy's name come to mind and I couldn't remember where I had known him. I knew the name very well but no matter how much I tried to recall who he was I just couldn't remember how I knew the name.
The next day I was walking along the street and a car sounded its horn. I went over to see who it was and it was that guy. He was someone I'd known in the CofS at least 10 years before and I hadn't seen him since then. He'd now left and he put me in touch with others who had left the Cofs, thus initiating a new chapter in my life.
"OTness"? "Synchronicity"?
The next day I was walking along the street and a car sounded its horn. I went over to see who it was and it was that guy. He was someone I'd known in the CofS at least 10 years before and I hadn't seen him since then. He'd now left and he put me in touch with others who had left the Cofs, thus initiating a new chapter in my life.
"OTness"? "Synchronicity"?
Ted
Gold Meritorious Patron
A few years ago I had a guy's name come to mind and I couldn't remember where I had known him. I knew the name very well but no matter how much I tried to recall who he was I just couldn't remember how I knew the name.
The next day I was walking along the street and a car sounded its horn. I went over to see who it was and it was that guy. He was someone I'd known in the CofS at least 10 years before and I hadn't seen him since then. He'd now left and he put me in touch with others who had left the Cofs, thus initiating a new chapter in my life.
"OTness"? "Synchronicity"?
People being sociable and friendly, not always possible in CoS.
I've been fascinated by this idea of shared thoughts for years, ever since an ex and I started having some experiences along these lines. It became almost a daily occurrence with us, and at one point we may have even experienced some shared dreams (sounds goofy I know, and I was really skeptical but it happened enough to where I couldn't completely write it off as a couple of overactive imaginations). She had a sister who she was even more in tune with, to the point where it could be downright eerie.
I've read some theories about psionics and telepathy which speculate that these types of connections might not indicate a strong bond between the two participants, but could in fact be achieved with anyone. There's a ton of stuff out there on this topic, typically referred to as "same thought syndrome". Obviously there are many things we can't understand about our subconscious mind and I'm really oversimplifying in this post. Just couldn't resist the urge to chime in when I saw y'all talkin about this.
I've read some theories about psionics and telepathy which speculate that these types of connections might not indicate a strong bond between the two participants, but could in fact be achieved with anyone. There's a ton of stuff out there on this topic, typically referred to as "same thought syndrome". Obviously there are many things we can't understand about our subconscious mind and I'm really oversimplifying in this post. Just couldn't resist the urge to chime in when I saw y'all talkin about this.
RogerB
Crusader
Interestingly enough, and sort of on the subject of this thread since I last posted here . . . .
Currently I am putting a new PC into operation and finding old disks, files etc to decide what to keep---what to kill.
Well, I found a video of an old lecture I did 15 years ago . . . in one part of the lecture I was challenged on the subject of spirituality so I recounted the data concerning a research project I'd recently read in the NY Times Science Section. It was a report on a scientific study carried out at Columbia University here in NYC . . . . Columbia is one of our Ivy League institutions up there with Harvard and Yale in repute.
Well the study was carried out to test the proposition of whether prayer had any effects or influence on outcomes . . .
The study consisted of dividing a group of around 600 Korean women who were about to undergo in vitro fertilization procedures. The group was divided into three parts then, in a "double-blind" study each of the three parts were subject to a different test.
1) group one had nothing done other than the procedure . . . that is, no prayer was performed for them.
2) group 2 had three different groups of prayers located in disparate locations: Australia, NZ and in the bible belt of the USA pray for them . . . but the prayer was based on the generality of the "group" . . . the prayer only knew that they were praying for "a group of Korean women undergoing the procedure."
3) Group 3 was different . . . the prayers in Oz, NZ and the US had photos of each of the members of the group they were directed to pray for . . .
The outcome of the study was that group 3 whose photos were used had twice the level of success as compared to the other two groups.
As I recall now the article, I am reminded that the scientists who carried out the study were "somewhat shocked" by the "unexpected" outcome
R
Currently I am putting a new PC into operation and finding old disks, files etc to decide what to keep---what to kill.
Well, I found a video of an old lecture I did 15 years ago . . . in one part of the lecture I was challenged on the subject of spirituality so I recounted the data concerning a research project I'd recently read in the NY Times Science Section. It was a report on a scientific study carried out at Columbia University here in NYC . . . . Columbia is one of our Ivy League institutions up there with Harvard and Yale in repute.
Well the study was carried out to test the proposition of whether prayer had any effects or influence on outcomes . . .
The study consisted of dividing a group of around 600 Korean women who were about to undergo in vitro fertilization procedures. The group was divided into three parts then, in a "double-blind" study each of the three parts were subject to a different test.
1) group one had nothing done other than the procedure . . . that is, no prayer was performed for them.
2) group 2 had three different groups of prayers located in disparate locations: Australia, NZ and in the bible belt of the USA pray for them . . . but the prayer was based on the generality of the "group" . . . the prayer only knew that they were praying for "a group of Korean women undergoing the procedure."
3) Group 3 was different . . . the prayers in Oz, NZ and the US had photos of each of the members of the group they were directed to pray for . . .
The outcome of the study was that group 3 whose photos were used had twice the level of success as compared to the other two groups.
As I recall now the article, I am reminded that the scientists who carried out the study were "somewhat shocked" by the "unexpected" outcome
R
hummingbird
Patron with Honors
That experiment has had mixed results when other teams attempted to duplicate it. See this article http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Wikipedia also has a discussion.
The study was debunked here: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/columbia_university_miracle_study_flawed_and_fraud/
Do you have any docs about what group funded it? That might be telling.
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Commander Birdsong
Crusader
very hard to duplicate results in studies of spiritual phenomena. science and spirit just don't mix well
i study both; both are good studies but they're oil and water; don't put your faith in reason, don't try to reason your faith...
RogerB
Crusader
Mate, as I said in my post . . . I ran across my reference to it in a lecture I did 15 years ago. And it was 15 years ago that I saw the write up in the NY Times . . . . and as we know, the NY Times is "the paper of record"
More than that I do not have nor care about . . . all I know is that the study was done as Columbia University
R