BASICS DVD

[nexus100]

Thank you VERY much, PMD.

I watched all the parts uploaded to date. If you take out DM's hype that you'll get instant comprehension etc. etc., these new editions sound like definite improvements to me, and not DM re-writes into Miscavology at all.

I know it is hard to accept anything DM says at face value, but I could believe what he was saying about the specific changes introduced by the original transcriptionists and editors and never corrected subsequently.

DM said that the text of DMSMH was not revised by one single word.

The format of the books is strange. I didn't measure it, but is it 9x16? It is the shape of a folded flyer, not the usual golden-ratio shape at all. I don't know what reasoning was back of that other than to make them distinctive so that one can see at a glance if someone is reading a new edition or an old one!

Yes, it's a money-maker. Yes, it has been said before with earlier updated editions that the "new improved" versions are now on-source and it was a lie. But that does not negate the possibility that errors were made as DM stated and have now been fixed. The examples of errors given, such as that chapter goof in 8-8008 are certainly real.

Let's see what the rest of the event shows.

Paul

I suppose if you believe the tech pieced together in proper format would produce solution to the "labyrinth" then errors and omissions in the material are vitally important. But with all the countless of hours of toil dedicated to application of this stuff would not someone, somewhere have made it through, like a million monkeys working a rubik's cube eventually results in one solution through blind luck?
The stuff doesn't work as a whole. It just doesn't. So what does it matter except as a curiousity how a book is put together?

 

[Pascal]

Thank you VERY much, PMD.

I watched all the parts uploaded to date. If you take out DM's hype that you'll get instant comprehension etc. etc., these new editions sound like definite improvements to me, and not DM re-writes into Miscavology at all.

I know it is hard to accept anything DM says at face value, but I could believe what he was saying about the specific changes introduced by the original transcriptionists and editors and never corrected subsequently.

DM said that the text of DMSMH was not revised by one single word.

The format of the books is strange. I didn't measure it, but is it 9x16? It is the shape of a folded flyer, not the usual golden-ratio shape at all. I don't know what reasoning was back of that other than to make them distinctive so that one can see at a glance if someone is reading a new edition or an old one!

Yes, it's a money-maker. Yes, it has been said before with earlier updated editions that the "new improved" versions are now on-source and it was a lie. But that does not negate the possibility that errors were made as DM stated and have now been fixed. The examples of errors given, such as that chapter goof in 8-8008 are certainly real.

Let's see what the rest of the event shows.

Paul

Yes the books seem to be better now. I never had problems reading them, but I then again, I'm the only person I know that has read them so others must have had a hard time.

Sad that DM is the only face you see. I prefered it when he stayed behind the scenes as RTC should be. Shouldn't Sr CS int talk about this? Or some RTC exec for tech? When did the dwarf become a celebrity?

Don't you hate how he pronouces "processing"?

You can get the dummy outta Philly, but you can't take Philly outta the dummy!

 

[Dulloldfart]

Don't you hate how he pronouces "processing"?

At least he doesn't affect that awful English "theetan".

Paul

 

[Dulloldfart]

The stuff doesn't work as a whole. It just doesn't. So what does it matter except as a curiousity how a book is put together?

True, Nexie, every bit of it doesn't work as stated. But some of it does.

And when you have spent hundreds of hours going through those books, with a lot of emphasis (from others) on how every single little comma came straight from God Almighty and shall not have its existence even be questioned, it is refreshing to get nearer to the truth of them.

Paul

 

[nexus100]

True, Nexie, every bit of it doesn't work as stated. But some of it does.

And when you have spent hundreds of hours going through those books, with a lot of emphasis (from others) on how every single little comma came straight from God Almighty and shall not have its existence even be questioned, it is refreshing to get nearer to the truth of them.

Paul

Yep, time invested. And I agree some works to an extent.
I like the every single little comma line.

 

[Pascal]

Eternity DVD

Parts 1 to 22 are up. 11 has been reposted.

A form and pen has been put on your chair, please fill it and hand it over as you exit, have your wallet handy.

 

[alex]

Interesting progression on this "Basics DVD".

At first it was "you have to attend the event". That is the only way you will receive the data.

Then "you have to attend the event or the satellite feed version locally"

Then " you have to come in and see the dvd of the event. No we can not mail you a copy, you have to see it here".

Then "Did you see the event yet? No? Well what is you address so you can have your own copy?"

I have to admit that my attitude was I read them already. I saw the replay and was very impressed with the case DM made. Props to the av people and editors of the video. DM must have practiced the heck out of that, to give it, too.

I wouldnt be surprised that he spent more time polishing the speechs than the books.

But the basic outpoint remains: most of this material was out when lrh was alive and if there were MAJOR problems he should/would have done this then.

The "basics" are not new data.

They are polish. A gradient upgrade.

Not the biggest advance in the history of scientology.

(got my copy in the mail yesterday, lied and said I had not seen it).

alex

 

[Pascal]

Interesting progression on this "Basics DVD".

At first it was "you have to attend the event". That is the only way you will receive the data.

Then "you have to attend the event or the satellite feed version locally"

Then " you have to come in and see the dvd of the event. No we can not mail you a copy, you have to see it here".

Then "Did you see the event yet? No? Well what is you address so you can have your own copy?"

I have to admit that my attitude was I read them already. I saw the replay and was very impressed with the case DM made. Props to the av people and editors of the video. DM must have practiced the heck out of that, to give it, too.

I wouldnt be surprised that he spent more time polishing the speechs than the books.

But the basic outpoint remains: most of this material was out when lrh was alive and if there were MAJOR problems he should/would have done this then.

The "basics" are not new data.

They are polish. A gradient upgrade.

Not the biggest advance in the history of scientology.

(got my copy in the mail yesterday, lied and said I had not seen it).

alex

I got 2 copies. One from asking and the other from filling a form.

Yeah DM sure practiced, he's so fake, you can see it costs him to be nice and friendly giving speeches. Must suck to be on top of the bridge like him and still be a moron that noone listens to or loves.

 

[Alanzo]

I find that Davey is critical and nattery throughout these film clips.

An editor "from the wrong side of the gene pool" in OTS13.avi, for instance.

This is especially concerning since the books they use to show how it was all done wrong are the ones that Davey himself re-did in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

 

[Pascal]

I find that Davey is critical and nattery throughout these film clips.

An editor "from the wrong side of the gene pool" in OTS13.avi, for instance.

This is especially concerning since the books they use to show how it was all done wrong are the ones that Davey himself re-did in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

Nevermind the "Well bring HIS own universe to ZERO" quote when talking about an editor. David shows great ARC for his fellow man and shows greatness as usual... NOT!

Failed case, cannot cause the effects he wants.

Did you notice the front row is all celebrities? Like the COS wants to show off with those low-tone mockeries of OTs (actors). Where are the SO execs? This is about the Maiden Voyage, where are the Freewinds people? What crapola!

 

[Dulloldfart]

But the basic outpoint remains: most of this material was out when lrh was alive and if there were MAJOR problems he should/would have done this then.

Quite. But rather than think that the points are really minor, I would be more inclined to think he just didn't give a rat's ass.

That attitude fits in more with his allowing all that contradictory tech to remain uncorrected and extant; his not even reading (per BFG) Mayo's write-ups of the Ls; his non-interest in NOTs issues; and so on.

Pau

 

[Alanzo]

Check out the natter and critical comments about the first squirrel who edited Scientology 8-80.

OTS16.avi

As one of the editors who allowed this squirrel's squirreling to remain in this book, Davey actually degrades himself.

Who does he think he's fooling?

 

[Pascal]

Check out the natter and critical comments about the first squirrel who edited Scientology 8-80.

OTS16.avi

As one of the editors who allowed this squirrel's squirreling to remain in this book, Davey actually degrades himself.

Who does he think he's fooling?

He doesn't think and the fool is him. He doesn't write his speeches. The only thing he does himself is wipe his ass or maybe he has one of these Japanese toilet bowls that you can karaoke to while it rinses your bunghole.

 

[alex]

Quite. But rather than think that the points are really minor, I would be more inclined to think he just didn't give a rat's ass.

That attitude fits in more with his allowing all that contradictory tech to remain uncorrected and extant; his not even reading (per BFG) Mayo's write-ups of the Ls; his non-interest in NOTs issues; and so on.

Pau

Didnt give a rats ass or thought it was good enough as it. I have not enough data to know.

Re: Mayo, perhaps that was in the motion to turn over his hat to him.

L's seem to be powerfull, plenty of anecdotal evidence, even Lisa Mcphearson, to be so knocked out of whack, seems to validate that it is touching something basic.


Nots would be Mayos baby...

And then after he was pushed out by the DM regime, Mayo went on to help develop another completely removed but similar intent, subject, metapsychology.

I dont need perfect.

alex

 

[Pascal]

Didnt give a rats ass or thought it was good enough as it. I have not enough data to know.

Re: Mayo, perhaps that was in the motion to turn over his hat to him.

L's seem to be powerfull, plenty of anecdotal evidence, even Lisa Mcphearson, to be so knocked out of whack, seems to validate that it is touching something basic.


Nots would be Mayos baby...

And then after he was pushed out by the DM regime, Mayo went on to help develop another completely removed but similar intent, subject, metapsychology.

I dont need perfect.

alex

Is that what you told your husband after the "I do" ?

 

[Alanzo]

Over and over, Davey tells us all the confusions that the old books caused, and what a mess they were. He invalidates them continually. Actually the whole running theme of the event is that idiots and SPs have ruined Scientology for you, up until now. He has saved it.

But, each time he invalidates Scientology, you have to wonder:

1. Why did LRH let these pieces of shit be published over and over for 35 years?

2, Why did Davey tell us the first time he exhumed the real tech and corrected all the mistakes that it was all done?

3. Why doesn't Davey take ANY responsibility whatsoever for the state of the old books, since they were such a horrible mess?

Also, after watching these film clips, I can tell why the inexorable conclusion is to throw out and shred the old books. Because, in order to sell new books to an ever-shrinking population, you must reduce the glut of editions each of them already owns.

Maybe there are some improvements here. But why make the whole thing so wrong in order to present them?

Money.

It's the only thing that makes any sense in trying to understand the way he has decided to present this release.

 

[Pascal]

Over and over, Davey tells us all the confusions that the old books caused, and what a mess they were. He invalidates them continually. Actually the whole running theme of the event is that idiots and SPs have ruined Scientology for you, up until now. He has saved it.

But, each time he invalidates Scientology, you have to wonder:

1. Why did LRH let these pieces of shit be published over and over for 35 years?

2, Why did Davey tell us the first time he exhumed the real tech and corrected all the mistakes that it was all done?

3. Why doesn't Davey take ANY responsibility whatsoever for the state of the old books, since they were such a horrible mess?

Also, after watching these film clips, I can tell why the inexorable conclusion is to throw out and shred the old books. Because, in order to sell new books to an ever-shrinking population, you must reduce the glut of editions each of them already owns.

Maybe there are some improvements here. But why make the whole thing so wrong in order to present them?

Money.

It's the only thing that makes any sense in trying to understand the way he has decided to present this release.

No, it's not money.

It's power.

COS has NO power.

If it did, money would flow in from governments all over the planet as it is doing in PT towards psychiatry and psych education programs.

But with the current low-iq, cheezy corny and homely image the COS has it will remain a "cult" in the eyes of all. And DM cannot do anything but find someone else to steer the ship to harbour. The catch-22 of his eternity.

 

[Bea Kiddo]

Over and over, Davey tells us all the confusions that the old books caused, and what a mess they were. He invalidates them continually. Actually the whole running theme of the event is that idiots and SPs have ruined Scientology for you, up until now. He has saved it.

But, each time he invalidates Scientology, you have to wonder:

1. Why did LRH let these pieces of shit be published over and over for 35 years?

2, Why did Davey tell us the first time he exhumed the real tech and corrected all the mistakes that it was all done?

3. Why doesn't Davey take ANY responsibility whatsoever for the state of the old books, since they were such a horrible mess?

Also, after watching these film clips, I can tell why the inexorable conclusion is to throw out and shred the old books. Because, in order to sell new books to an ever-shrinking population, you must reduce the glut of editions each of them already owns.

Maybe there are some improvements here. But why make the whole thing so wrong in order to present them?

Money.

It's the only thing that makes any sense in trying to understand the way he has decided to present this release.

I believe normal groups/orgs in the WOG, that have some semblance of integrity, usually do what is called a "recall". They fix and replace their OWN mistake.

Has this EVER happened in the "church" of Scientology?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never.

Not for anything.

Not for materials

Not for training

Not for auditing


Nothing.


Even if you had been audited by someone who ended up declared. You pay for the review auditing.

Is it the pc's job to figure out if their auditor is an SP?

There are HUGE OUTPOINTS in this church. In the administration of it.

What gives them the right?

----


Maybe Davey would be a man of integrity, or have a little respect, if he recalled the books and replaced them for free.

 

[Whitedove]

Alanzo wrote:
Over and over, Davey tells us all the confusions that the old books caused, and what a mess they were. He invalidates them continually. Actually the whole running theme of the event is that idiots and SPs have ruined Scientology for you, up until now. He has saved it.

But, each time he invalidates Scientology, you have to wonder:

1. Why did LRH let these pieces of shit be published over and over for 35 years?

2, Why did Davey tell us the first time he exhumed the real tech and corrected all the mistakes that it was all done?

I had the exact same toughts and questioning Alanzo. Really, like Ron would of not noticed those mistakes?
I'm not talking about a coma here, or a period there. I mean, every single book had big mistakes in them.

And how in the world DM have figured all those supposed mistakes anyhow? Did Ron talked to him from the grave? Call me dumb, but if someone can please explain this one to me, i'll be more than glad to hear it.

 

[Pascal]

Eternity DVD

Event has been completely uploaded. Enjoy

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-9132790418320009569&hl=es