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Two Cents

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I am very tardy in this introduction of myself to everyone on this board, but I am always late. Can't tell you the number of tardies I had in school and let's not talk about musters! Way.. too.. icky. Anyway, hi, I'm Two Cents, and I have posted on some other threads, but have neglected my manners here shamefully. But, now that we have been properly? introduced, I'd like to say thanks to Emma for setting up this board, and everyone else for being here for those who need it while they are moving, or trying to move, out from the C of S. For me, it was a terrifying prospect personally, so I appreciate any support people show to those who are currently working their way through that as well. I feel that love and compassion, for both ourselves and others, is what pulls us through that difficult time of metamorphosis.

My current attitude regarding the C of S:

"Faith...must be enforced by reason...when faith becomes blind it dies." and "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind." Ghandi


My best wishes to everyone here, and everyone who wants to be but hasn't arrived yet! Love, Two Cents
 
JustSheila

JustSheila

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:welcome2: Twocents!

You're right on time. For you. We won't hold you to any personal schedule.

Glad to have you here! :thumbsup:
 
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rich

Silver Meritorious Patron
Hi 2cents. Isn't it great to be here? And we are so glad to have you. It's exciting.
 
Dean Blair

Dean Blair

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Welcome to ESMB Two Cents! The Cherch of Scientology is losing people every day and many of them are showing up here. I am looking forward to any stories you might have to tell about your experiences in Hubbard's domain.:thumbsup:
 
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Ceedar

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Two Cents said:
I am very tardy in this introduction of myself to everyone on this board, but I am always late. Can't tell you the number of tardies I had in school and let's not talk about musters! Way.. too.. icky. Anyway, hi, I'm Two Cents, and I have posted on some other threads, but have neglected my manners here shamefully. But, now that we have been properly? introduced, I'd like to say thanks to Emma for setting up this board, and everyone else for being here for those who need it while they are moving, or trying to move, out from the C of S. For me, it was a terrifying prospect personally, so I appreciate any support people show to those who are currently working their way through that as well. I feel that love and compassion, for both ourselves and others, is what pulls us through that difficult time of metamorphosis.

My current attitude regarding the C of S:

"Faith...must be enforced by reason...when faith becomes blind it dies." and "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind." Ghandi


My best wishes to everyone here, and everyone who wants to be but hasn't arrived yet! Love, Two Cents
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Welcome to the Free and Wonderful, New World in which you are NOT sent to ethics simply for being Tardy!

<3 Ceedar :)
 
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Two Cents

Patron with Honors
Intentionally Blank said:
Glad you're here. And no worries, we'll leave the light on for ya ;)

Blanky
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Thanks, Blanky, and everyone else who has responded here, it is so nice of you to welcome your perpetually tardy one!
That is exactly what I feel we are all here doing for each other, just leaving the light on.
You have inspired me, Blanky, with your posts regarding your spouse and the situation with which you are dealing.
I really appreciate your both your dignity and your compassion.
Love, Two Cents
 
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Two Cents

Patron with Honors
It means a lot to me to see people working to be tolerant and compassionate to each other, no matter what stage of belief/disbelief they are in individually, and no matter what their views.

I am the mother of an S.O. member and have another immediate family member who still wants to do their levels in the C of S, although I have been out myself since 2011. Knowing that I was exactly in their shoes at one point in my life does help. I must admit that it is difficult when it is your spouse who wants to still do services, though. That's why what Blanky has said about the situation with marriage and the C of S means so much to me personally.

Spirituality, hope for the future, desire to serve humanity, many of their most admirable qualities as individuals are still being utilized and manipulated.

When I got into Scientology as a teenager, I joined the S.O. shortly thereafter. I was in the S.O. for a double digit number of years. I routed out, but remained a Scientologist until 2011. My life had reached a crisis point by then. I had chronic insomnia, which started while I was doing NED. My youngest child had left home and I had an "empty nest" for the first time in almost three decades and was crying over it every day. I knew that I had to do something to change my life and that it had not been found within the C of S.

So, I moved on and no longer have the insomnia or tears every day, and my life is so much better now.
But, I still have one beloved child on post and a spouse who wants to the levels.
Every silver lining does have a cloud, doesn't it?

Everyone who is dealing with a situation with their family or friends and the C of S, or any cult of any kind, have my sincere best wishes and hopes for the happiest possible outcome.

Tolerance and compassion and love are the best weapons I have found in my personal battle.
Honor and respect for myself and my own views and those of others are my most important tools.

It seems to me like new things are always going to be created, believed or understood in life.
And, spiritual reality, to me, is a very individual thing.
What that person decides for themselves their spirituality is, seems to be what it is for them.

Since knowledge of the self and life is always expanding, disagreements will
always be a part of the picture, as we are individuals, with unique viewpoints.
To me, how well those disagreements are dealt with really determines the quality
of our relationships.

I thought that compassion was the final lesson I received from the suffering I had while in the C of S,
but now tolerance is starting to gain on it.

Love,

Two Cents
 
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Two Cents

Patron with Honors
As I continue to read the new member introductions, I really enjoy how this board supports people who are moving out from the C of S, or are just trying to deal with it's effect on their family and friends. Because, to me, love and friendships make my life feel happy and worthwhile. I've had a lot of lessons in love as I have moved away from Scn., while my husband and child have not. Learning how to just love them as they are is a continual growth experience for me.
It's pretty easy with your child, as you know you will always love them, no matter what they do. With my husband, I had always thought of us as a team in life, a combination into something greater than just two separate individuals. That part has really vanished, as we are on such different wavelengths now individually. I wish it wasn't that way, as he is a wonderful person and father. I try to concentrate on the things that we do still share, but we are simply not interested in continuing along the same path in life anymore.
I just cannot want to do anything on the bridge, and he is not interested in doing anything other than that and furthering his career.
It's funny to even see that in writing, as my husband and family have been the center of my world for the last two decades.
To learn to stand on my own again, think for myself as an individual, not as part of a couple, family or group, has been very challenging to me.
Also, I had always thought I would be married to the same person for the rest of my life, and that really gave me a lot of stability.
The good part is that we are still friends, and always will be. We were neighbors and friends and worked together before we became a couple, so luckily, we still have all of that, and it is a real blessing. Also, we both still love being parents, although our child is an adult now.
So, I guess it could really be worse, couldn't it? Okay, I guess I'm done moaning about it, but thanks for being there to let me vent!
Love, Two Cents
 
Commander Birdsong

Commander Birdsong

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late?

esmb is young!

welcome!

i suggest you check out harlan ellison's classic "repent harlequin said the ticktockman" i think you might find the protagonist to be a kindred spirit...
 
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Two Cents

Patron with Honors
I appreciate your "welcomes" so much, thank you to everyone here.

I have a question that is really important to me, about dealing with family and friends who remain in the C of S.
Has anyone found the love/tolerance within themselves to be at peace with their relations and friends that still in?

To me, applying the "golden rule" of loving your brother as you love yourself means respecting and honoring both yourself and your own point of view as well as those of others.
Is there a way any of you have found yet, to apply this both to ourselves and to those still in the C of S?
You know, as in: "Peace on Earth, good will towards men?"

As the mother of an S.O. member, I just cannot want to harm those people who truly believe they are contributing the best way they can to humanity, as my child still does.
Love, tolerance, and mutual respect really seem to be the only tools I have here.
How about you all?

Love, Two Cents
 
Bea Kiddo

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Two Cents said:
I appreciate your "welcomes" so much, thank you to everyone here.

I have a question that is really important to me, about dealing with family and friends who remain in the C of S.
Has anyone found the love/tolerance within themselves to be at peace with their relations and friends that still in?

To me, applying the "golden rule" of loving your brother as you love yourself means respecting and honoring both yourself and your own point of view as well as those of others.
Is there a way any of you have found yet, to apply this both to ourselves and to those still in the C of S?
You know, as in: "Peace on Earth, good will towards men?"

As the mother of an S.O. member, I just cannot want to harm those people who truly believe they are contributing the best way they can to humanity, as my child still does.
Love, tolerance, and mutual respect really seem to be the only tools I have here.
How about you all?

Love, Two Cents
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Welcome Two Cents!

As for your child still in the SO, try to be there for that child as much as you can. Make sure they know you love them and will always be there for them, no matter what. Keep repeating this. They may stay till the end, or make decide it is not for them and want to try to figure out where they can go, and you should be ready for that.

I am saying this as a person who was born and raised in who had no out. My mother is still in the Sea Org, and my dad was SP declared and I did not know where he was or how to find him. I had nothing to fall back on. I had only the Sea Org. Getting out was an entirely different experience.

Please make sure your child knows how much you love them and that you will always be there for them. That may wake them up someday.

Hope this helps.
 
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