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[Gadfly]

In the 1968 editions of all of Hubbard's books there appeared in the front:

IMPORTANT NOTE​

In studying Scientology be very, very certain you never go past a word you do not fully understand.

The only reason a person gives up a study or becomes confused or unable to learn is that he or she has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood.

Mmmm? And I am asking this primarily to any person who actually ACCEPTS those statements by Hubbard.

So the only reason a person woud give up a study of psychiatry is because the student has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood in the materials of psychiatry? It couldn't possiby be that there was something wrong with the ideas?

Or, the only reason that a person would give up the study of an "other practice" such as astrology is because the person has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood? Could it be that possibly astrology doesn't really "make sense" no matter how well one understands the words and symbols? Also, I WAS studying meditation when I got into Scientology. The REASON I stopped was because I was told that I could not study "other practices" if I wanted to do Scientology, and NOT because I passed some word or symbol that I didn't understand.

The only reason a student of Christianity during the Spanish Inquisition would give up study is because he has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood? It couldn't be that the ideas contained in the words were absurd?

The ONLY reason??????????

On another thread this was discussed, how Hubbard used the word "only" over and over, as a sort of hypnotic command.

How about, the ONLY reason a person sticks with Scientology, through thick and thin, despite all the idiocy in theory and practice, is because such a person has been turned into a Hofferesque True Believer? :confused2:

This is a key component of real life in organized Scientology:

Ours is NOT to reason why, ours is but to DO and die . . . .

Do what Ron says, and do NOT ever question anything.

Though really, it shoud state, to be accurate for Scientology:

Ours is NOT to reason why, ours is but to DO and LIE . . . .

I should add that a key reason why many of us STOPPED studying Scientology is because we DID come to well understand what it really was. We no longer had any "confusions" about Hubbard's of the Church of Scientology's real aims and intentions. Once we no longer had ANY "misunderstandings", then we ran away from the "study"!

Hubbard pushed the lunacy even further along this line of "misunderstood words and symbols" as the "only reason" when he created the FPRD (False Purpose Rundown). He introduced the idea that BEFORE ANY OVERT and before the creation of ANY "false purpose" one MUST have misunderstood some word or symbol!!!!!

It really is nuts because in Hubbard's paradigm, for ANY THING to exist and be there, to persist, it must be "altered" from what it "really is" or it must be MISUNDERSTOOD as to its "true nature". Thus, ANYTHING one has EVER contacted in this universe MUST be "misunderstood", otherwise it could NOT "persist" and be there to be experienced. Right? Yes? No? I mean, if you accept everything Hubbard says about "alter-is" and "persistence" then THAT is the ONY conclusion. How can there EVER be a "correct understanding" of anything in such a universe? Oh, I just had the OT XXIII cogniton! My bad.

Note: All Upper OT levels above OT XV must be done "out of Scientology"! (a joke on "the upper upper OT levels are done out of the body")

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Actually, Hubbard didn't even know what he was talking about.

He said verbal communication, but he meant oral communication.

Verbal means using words. the written word is verbal.

Oral means spoken.

The Anabaptist Jacques

Even a broken tech is right twice a day.

Verbal -adjective
1. of or pertaining to words: verbal ability.
2. consisting of or in the form of words: verbal imagery.
3. expressed in spoken words; oral rather than written: verbal communication; verbal agreement.
4. consisting of or expressed in words (as opposed to actions): a verbal protest.
5. pertaining to or concerned with words only (as opposed to ideas, facts, or realities): a purely verbal distinction between two concepts.

With Scientologists, Clears and OT's running around the planet, there should actually be another definition of "verbal" added. . .

6. inordinately excessive in the use of verbs within one's speech or writing, denoting amazing actions or feats that one previously did or is able to do in the future, despite abundant proof to the contrary. (Guests at the dinner party refused to sit near the verbal Scientologist.)​

I submitted this to urban dictionary.com and it will appear as a new entry in a couple days:

Verbal -adjective
1. inordinately excessive in the use of verbs within one's speech or writing, denoting amazing actions or feats that one previously did or is able to do in the future, despite abundant proof to the contrary.
2. denoting a person who falsely, absurdly and ridiculously claims credit for a verb that they only said but never did.
Examples:
* Dreading an eternity of listening to delusional bragging, guests at the dinner party refused to sit near the verbal Scientologist.
* Then, Al Gore went completely verbal and claimed to have invented the internet.

 

[crm1978]

Your posts remind me of my early days in Scn .Hubbard sure could create a wonderfull vision of a better world .The sad part is that he was doing it to suck you in take all of your money and control your life. It took me a while to see that under the pleasent exterior there was a black hole of insanity with very powerfull gravity that sucks anything nearby inside. I get a lot out of the personal stories of other exs' and what they went through many suffered a lot worse then I did . I was only in a couple of years as public from '78 to '80 .I was 'nt in long but I was very "In" the Hubbard reality bubble .It has taken me a long time to get my mind free of that world.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

O fjor, wherefore art thou?

 

[Gadfly]

O fjor, wherefore art thou?

Leave well enough alone? :confused2:

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

The "religious cloaking" is from the 1990s?

That is absurd. Your recall sucks. Maybe you need more auditing to "improve your memory"? :confused2:

I got into Scientology in 1976 in Boston.

I NEVER wanted to be part of or felt that I was part of a "religion".

The religious cloaking was alive and in FULL SWING when I first got in back in 1976.

I joind the Sea org and became a Flag Rep. I also got to know many of the top guys in the GO very quickly.

I had programs to implement come down the FR lines that had to do with "religious image", getting everyone through the "minister's course", and getting auditors wearing those nutty "priest collars and black shirts" (so as to APPEAR like a "priest" and "religious"). Shit, I myself, and I wasn't an auditor, HAD to complete the "minister's course". After Mary Sue got busted, the pressure to solidify Scientology as a "relgion" really went into high gear. It was typical Scientology manipulating APPEARANCES for their own benefit.

I remember Scientology had released books and booklets back then promoting and making the point that Scientology was "a religion". I remember talking to GO friends about it, and many commented, "yeah it is just to protect us and help us better succeed". I remember Bob Johnson, B1 GO NE (New England), tell me that he could care less about being "in a religion". The same with Bill Bromfield, DG NE. I knew Bill really well because I played in a band with him. We talked ALL the time. The "religious angle" was ALWAYS an "appearance".

There was a time BEFORE 1976 when auditors did NOT have to wear the nutty "minister mock up". Then suddenly they were all wearing them, obviously as part of some intentional plan to make Scientology "appear as religious".

Good post!

I remember after the Briefing Course (and having audited & c/sed for quite some time) hearing that everyone was "ordered" to do the ministers course and wear a religious clown outfit. I refused to do both.

I used to think it was a joke when I saw a foul-mouthed, status-happy, mest-obsessed person I knew suddenly appearing in a priest costume only to feign holiness for a few minutes to perform a marriage or funeral ceremony. And the Scientology audience somehow suspended their disbelief and pretended this jerk was a revered religious figure. HolyHell, talk about cognition-dissonance!

Scientologists who invoke the hypocritical cloak of religion are using definition #3.

Actual religions only use definition #1 and #2.

in·voke   [in-vohk] verb (used with object), -voked, -vok·ing.
1. pray; make supplication: to invoke God's mercy.
2. to call on (a deity, Muse, etc.), as in prayer or supplication.
3. to declare to be binding or in effect: to invoke the law; to invoke a veto.

​

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Originally Posted by Terril park
Religious cloaking and the new corporate structure was from around the 1990 's best I recall. The Creed is from 1954 and written to celebrate the founding of COS. What you describe above is hypocracy.

Its from the 1960's Terrill - sheesh how you possibly not know that?

This answer to your question was just posted in the theta universe, you can channel it yourself. . .

Originally Posted by Terril park
Mick, there is no evidence that Ron ever wore a ministers outfit. DOX OR GTFO (Go the fuck OT)

DISCLAIMER: So I made it up and I am going to hell. So what?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

..


The MU word was the cure-all to confusion, incomplete cycles, blows, O/W's et al. One of many that Hubbard "discovered".

One only need "find" it and total freedom ensued.

Scientology one-shot-clear through the ages. . .

1950's: Find your engram.
1960's: Find your GPM.
1970's: Find your word.
1980's: Find your bt.
1990's: Find your crime.
2000's: Find your checkbook.​

 

[Gadfly]

..


The MU word was the cure-all to confusion, incomplete cycles, blows, O/W's et al. One of many that Hubbard "discovered".

One only need "find" it and total freedom ensued.

Scientology one-shot-clear through the ages. . .

1950's: Find your engram.
1960's: Find your GPM.
1970's: Find your word.
1980's: Find your bt.
1990's: Find your crime.
2000's: Find your checkbook.​

Find your checkbook!​

Ain't THAT the truth. That is the REAL why of ALL Scientology.

 

[Gadfly]

I remember after the Briefing Course (and having audited & c/sed for quite some time) hearing that everyone was "ordered" to do the ministers course and wear a religious clown outfit. I refused to do both.

Religious clown outfit!!!! I love THAT description. That is exactly how I viewed it. I mean, I never liked anything about "traditional religions" like Catholicism, and here we had to have all of these jerks looking just like a Catholic priest?

It was just SO STUPID to me.

I always hated the "concentration" on "making things appear to be other than they really are" in Scientology - just as Hubbard designed it and enforced it.

Like the "Sunday Services". Gawd, what a pretentious & phony contrived load of shit.

Oh, and has anyone noticed that once they got their "religious recognition" from the IRS that the priest mock-ups quickly dissappeared along with any and all requirements for staff to do the "Minister's Course"? If the aspect of "auditors being priestlike" actually truly mattered and was REAL, then it would have continued. It was a ruse. It was a gimmick. That is all. It was the manipulative tech of ARC in action to gain agreement with just another phony mock-up (assertion, claim) of Scientology.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Religious clown outfit!!!! I love THAT description. That is exactly how I viewed it. I mean, I never liked anything about "traditional religions" like Catholicism, and here we had to have all of these jerks looking just like a Catholic priest?

It was just SO STUPID to me.

I always hated the "concentration" on "making things appear to be other than they really are" in Scientology - just as Hubbard designed it and enforced it.

Like the "Sunday Services". Gawd, what a pretentious & phony contrived load of shit.

Oh, and has anyone noticed that once they got their "religious recognition" from the IRS that the priest mock-ups quickly dissappeared along with any and all requirements for staff to do the "Minister's Course"? If the aspect of "auditors being priestlike" actually truly mattered and was REAL, then it would have continued. It was a ruse. It was a gimmick. That is all. It was the manipulative tech of ARC in action to gain agreement with just another phony mock-up (assertion, claim) of Scientology.

Outstanding observation!

In consonance (literally and gramatically) with your post, like everything else in Scientology it was a...

Multifaceted mockup to make more money and manipulatively muckup mankind's mind & money.


muck up. To bungle, damage, or ruin.

 

[Gadfly]

Outstanding observation!

In consonance (literally and gramatically) with your post, like everything else in Scientology it was a...

Multifaceted mockup to make more money and manipulatively muckup mankind's mind & money.


muck up. To bungle, damage, or ruin.

I have often loved to do the thing where you create a sentence with words starting in the same letter of the alphabet (as much as possible).

Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened susceptible minds thus surrending sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels.

 

[Gadfly]

I have often loved to do the thing where you create a sentence with words starting in the same letter of the alphabet (as much as possible).

Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened susceptible minds thus surrending sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels.

It would be perfect if there were a word for "mind" starting in "s".

(Geez, I meant to edit my post, and instead I "responded to my own post". Dummy! )

 

[Sindy]

It would be perfect if there were a word for "mind" starting in "s".

(Geez, I meant to edit my post, and instead I "responded to my own post". Dummy! )

How about:

"Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened, susceptible, snarled synapses thus surrending sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels."

 

[vumba]

Since I accessed this forum via StudyTech.org I wish to share this with everyone:

I'm not a Scientologist but I did attend the Delphi School in my 12th year of High School & they taught me everything I should've learned in my 1st 11 years of regular school. Subsequently, I did try my hand at being a Scientologist for awhile but my priorities were different than theirs. I will always be grateful to those people for teaching me their Study Tech - It really does work if you use it & if you use it exactly as written. - The thing about new things are that you might be surprised if you actually try them. How many Christians do you know that actually get on their knees to pray or do it in private like Paul says. Maybe if we all did it exactly like it says in the Bible our prayers would be more often answered to our satisfaction.

The thing is, due to Scientology & the study tech, I understand fully what I was always seeking since I was 5 years old - God, Brahman, 8th Dynamic or whatever you wanna call it, Him or Her - In my book, there should be as many religions (or philosophies) as there are people in the world - Each one of us following our own.

I know the Org's policies - I have left behind a few people that I really respected (I might even know a few of you folks, too) but, their policy doesn't allow for much more than cursory comm betwixt them & I (no, I was never declared or anything - just wandered off on my own path).

I can't fault them for doing what they feel is right - Just as I wish to be left to do what I feel is right.

Frankly, short of my children's reaching "Full Enlightenment" a close 2nd best in my book is for them to become Scientologists because, with the tech they might actually understand Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, et al (whatever keeps 'em off the streets).

Now, I might agree with you on some things that are an out point here or there in Scientology, but, to be fair, couldn't you also agree that there are many good points, too?

Best to you & all - fjor

Hi .... I do get what you mean, but please take this from one of the "children" who was abused in the Sea Org and was also locked up in the chain locker on the Apollo and forced to disconnect from my grandparents and father that there is so much more that went on than you appear to be aware of. I too have taken a lot of good stuff with me, including good communication skills and high confront, but to even contemplate my children being involved gives me the chills. Members of the "Public" and non-SO staff were usually (not always) unaware of what we went through. Teach them the tech yourself... parents can be wonderful teachers !

 

[Sindy]

Even a broken tech is right twice a day.


With Scientologists, Clears and OT's running around the planet, there should actually be another definition of "verbal" added. . .

6. inordinately excessive in the use of verbs within one's speech or writing, denoting amazing actions or feats that one previously did or is able to do in the future, despite abundant proof to the contrary. (Guests at the dinner party refused to sit near the verbal Scientologist.)​

I submitted this to urban dictionary.com and it will appear as a new entry in a couple days:

Verbal -adjective
1. inordinately excessive in the use of verbs within one's speech or writing, denoting amazing actions or feats that one previously did or is able to do in the future, despite abundant proof to the contrary.
2. denoting a person who falsely, absurdly and ridiculously claims credit for a verb that they only said but never did.
Examples:
* Dreading an eternity of listening to delusional bragging, guests at the dinner party refused to sit near the verbal Scientologist.
* Then, Al Gore went completely verbal and claimed to have invented the internet.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

I have often loved to do the thing where you create a sentence with words starting in the same letter of the alphabet (as much as possible).

Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened susceptible minds thus surrending sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels.

You may have started a new thread idea! LOL. Possible thread title is--

CoS: Consonance of Scientology

or possibly...

IAS: Intentional Alliteration of Scientologists

or for the esoterically inclined...

Homonovis or Homoeoteleuton?

Damn, sorry about that last one. I couldn't resist. Example (from my recent rap video):

Paying da church for my eternity.
Said they'd cure every infirmity.
Then I could be all I could be.
As soon as I finished my bank-ruptcy.​

 

[Gadfly]

How about:

"Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened, susceptible, snarled synapses thus surrending sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels."

SYNAPSES!!!!

That was the word I was searching for.

I love the addition of "softened, susceptible, and snarled"!

Thank-you Synthia!

(notice how I was using "s" to start and you Synthia, came up with it) So slick!

 

[Operating DB]

Slick and Sly Synthia!

 

[AngeloV]

How about:

"Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened, susceptible, snarled synapses thus surrendering sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels."

Nice alliteration!