Come On!

[Operating DB]

I find it suspect when an OP comes in for the first time, drops a question in the mix and then doesn't respond. Granted, it's only been 12 hours and possibly it's a legitimate posting. This seems to happen a lot here though.

Still no response from the original poster. I was thinking we overwhelmed him/her with our truth telling posts or he/she was delivering a blow to the enemy as part of an ethics condition.

 

[Tiger Lily]

THIS is the ESMB I fell in love with!!! What a fun group of people!

 

[Operating DB]

"Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened, susceptible, snarled synapses thus surrendering sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels"

Or for those that have a lisp:

"Thientology thecretly and thilently thlithers into thoftened, thuthceptible, thnarled thynaptheth thuth thurrendering thenthe and thanity to thly thurreptitiouth thcoundrelth"

Ow! My tongue is all thnarled up now!

 

[Gadfly]

Or for those that have a lisp:

"Thientology thecretly and thilently thlithers into thoftened, thuthceptible, thnarled thynaptheth thuth thurrendering thenthe and thanity to thly thurreptitiouth thcoundrelth"

Ow! My tongue is all thnarled up now!

And, when a person with a lisp says "thetan" what he is REALLY saying????? (not that I subscribe to any of that Christian-based "analysis" of Scientology)



Answer: Satan

 

[Gadfly]

Nice alliteration!

Now, lets not alter the true source of the origination of the alliteration, or in other words, please don't bring about an alteration of the identified intender of said interesting alliteration.

Synthia+ added an improvement to an already-existing alliteration. She altered the original alliteration along avenues of added amplitude with agile angst.

(Of course, you can make that alliteration "persist" by entering into it an alter-is of the correct assignment of ownership of the creation)

 

[DagwoodGum]

Mmmm? And I am asking this primarily to any person who actually ACCEPTS those statements by Hubbard.

So the only reason a person woud give up a study of psychiatry is because the student has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood in the materials of psychiatry? It couldn't possiby be that there was something wrong with the ideas?

Or, the only reason that a person would give up the study of an "other practice" such as astrology is because the person has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood? Could it be that possibly astrology doesn't really "make sense" no matter how well one understands the words and symbols? Also, I WAS studying meditation when I got into Scientology. The REASON I stopped was because I was told that I could not study "other practices" if I wanted to do Scientology, and NOT because I passed some word or symbol that I didn't understand.

The only reason a student of Christianity during the Spanish Inquisition would give up study is because he has gone past a word or phrase that was not understood? It couldn't be that the ideas contained in the words were absurd?

The ONLY reason??????????

On another thread this was discussed, how Hubbard used the word "only" over and over, as a sort of hypnotic command.

How about, the ONLY reason a person sticks with Scientology, through thick and thin, despite all the idiocy in theory and practice, is because such a person has been turned into a Hofferesque True Believer? :confused2:

This is a key component of real life in organized Scientology:

Ours is NOT to reason why, ours is but to DO and die . . . .

Do what Ron says, and do NOT ever question anything.

I should add that a key reason why many of us STOPPED studying Scientology is because we DID come to well understand what it really was. We no longer had any "confusions" about Hubbard's of the Church of Scientology's real aims and intentions. Once we no longer had ANY "misunderstandings", then we ran away from the "study"!

Hubbard pushed the lunacy even further along this line of "misunderstood words and symbols" as the "only reason" when he created the FPRD (False Purpose Rundown). He introduced the idea that BEFORE ANY OVERT and before the creation of ANY "false purpose" one MUST have misunderstood some word or symbol!!!!!

It really is nuts because in Hubbard's paradigm, for ANY THING to exist and be there, to persist, it must be "altered" from what it "really is" or it must be MISUNDERSTOOD as to its "true nature". Thus, ANYTHING one has EVER contacted in this universe MUST be "misunderstood", otherwise it could NOT "persist" and be there to be experienced. Right? Yes? No? I mean, if you accept everything Hubbard says about "alter-is" and "persistence" then THAT is the ONY conclusion. How can there EVER be a "correct understanding" of anything in such a universe? Oh, I just had the OT XXIII cogniton! My bad.

Note: All Upper OT levels above OT XV must be done "out of Scientology"!

Hubbard really spewed some wild generalities, and lots of them. In fact one of these was that SP's speak in generalities, cut com lines and exhibit all of Hubbard's own character traits

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

...

ARC-FREE ALLITERATIONS. . .

Ron's ridiculous ramblings requiring registrars to rigorously rape the reserves of the religious.

 

[Lermanet_com]

Re: Religious Cloaking

 

[Gadfly]

...

ARC-FREE ALLITERATIONS. . .

Ron's ridiculous ramblings requiring registrars to rigorously rape the reserves of the religious.

Or, possibly:

Hubbard's haughty hooligans heaping hefty handlings using hidden habitual habits to hatch horrendous hype!

Damn, I could do this all day . . . .

 

[Gadfly]

Re: Religious Cloaking

Yeah, per Hubbard, it is NOT a religion, but it IS a religion.

It is NOT a therapy, but it IS a therapy.

The Hubbard Law of Commotion (thank-you Hoaxter) - for every statement by Hubbard there is usually an equal and opposite statement. But ALL are correct, because Ron is ALWAYS right!!!!!!

It kills me how Hubbard managed to create the "Scientologist" - that person who is completely cut off from all critical thinking skills!

[Over-indoctrinated imbeciles who have entered extreme enthusiastic energy into their idiotic & inane iconoclastic ideology!]

 

[Moosejewels]

As I stated earlier, beer is definitely better than Scientology.

Pete

This is a very interesting thread. I thought of several intelligent and wise
insights to reply with. Tired tonight, so alas, I am lazy. Cheers :

 

[Veda]

Maybe we could have been nicer to fjor, and let him have his win with the Study Tech, and concentrated with dissuading him from involving his children in Scientology.

fjor, come on back. We'll be nicer.

 

[apocalyptic]

Maybe we could have been nicer to fjor, and let him have his win with the Study Tech, and concentrated with dissuading him from involving his children in Scientology.

fjor, come on back. We'll be nicer.

Wouldn't matter V. (Simply put).

By the time the/a spiritual being (i.e. fjor in this instance) has filtered itself down through the emotional, mental and physical aspects of being, into being a human being, all bets are off, in regard to any 'conscious-willful-choice' of behavior (and or belief). Most especially in regard to 'change'. (at any given moment in time).

At least for the most part. (Notwithstanding the age old adage that 'exceptions' tend to substantiate, 'the rule').

Keeps life sketchy. For the most part.

(so to speak)

Apocalyptic

fjor is doing fine.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Religious Cloaking

[Over-indoctrinated imbeciles who have entered extreme enthusiastic energy into their idiotic iconoclastic ideology!]

Ahh! An atypical answer, abandoning alliteration? Alright! Altogether, an assuredly appealing assonance!

 

[Gadfly]

Re: Religious Cloaking

Ahh! An atypical answer, abandoning alliteration? Alright! Altogether, an assuredly appealing assonance!

Ah, while I have played with "alliteration" for years, I never knew the term that described it until today. :confused2:

Looking it up today I found:

"alliteration" refers to the repetition of a particular sound in the first syllables of a series of words and/or phrases

Note: It says "sounds" and not necessarily the "letter of the alphabet". This would qualify:

Fleeting phantasmagorical fomenting F/Ns from Flag.

But, granted it LOOKS better with all the same letter!

Such as:

Fleeting fabricated flatulent F/Ns from Flag!

Now what you just composed above was a few SENTENCES of alliteration. VWD! A worthwhile and difficult task indeed! You will receive a bright glossy AWARD at the next Friday Night ESMB Graduation!

Once I noticed that an alliteration can include a "series of words or phrases", I took the liberty of combining a few series of words with different beginning sounds.

Thus:

Over-indoctrinated imbeciles who have entered extreme enthusiastic energy into their idiotic iconoclastic ideology .

Each "phrase" is an "alliteration"! There is a certain "rhythm" to it . . . .

But, yes, for you Hoaxter, a Perfected Purist of Pandering Parody (Grade Ziv.X-O), such an example may APPEAR to such an enthusiast as yourself as abandoning "absolute alliteration"! I understand, such execises may be "below you".

Imagine the fun we could have setting up specific rules, and then having to meet the requirements in the resulting illiterations. But, just as with the idea of a Scn board game, following it through is a bit too taxing on my brief and fleeting "attention span".

 

[Jump]

How about:

"Scientology secretly and silently slithers into softened, susceptible, snarled synapses thus surrending sense and sanity to sly surreptitious scoundrels."

Simply superb sentence, satisfying several subscribers.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Quote Originally Posted by SweetnessandLight
"The real danger of Study Tech is that it was designed for indoctrination, not education."

No. It originally came out of 30 years' educational research from the Berners (per Alan) and Hubbard just stole it outright and got rid of Charles Berner and his wife. What is given on the Study Tapes in the mid-60s is mostly pretty sensible (apart from Hubbard's waffle), and allows the student power of choice over the data and whether to accept it or not.

The "central tenet" of if you disagree with Hubbard you've got a misunderstood word might be some idiot supervisor's rote application of the silly 1970s bulletin on Method 4 Word Clearing, but it is not central to that 1964/5 Study Tech (ripped off from the Berners, remember, not "developed" by Hubbard).

A lot of Scios do NOT understand what Study Tech is about, and think their personal experience is what everyone experiences and how it is supposed to be. That isn't the case.

I've written extensively about Study Tech on ESMB.

Paul
ex-course sup for 10 years

I stand corrected, Sweetie Pie.
My exposure was to the latter, not the earlier form. Thank you for your good post! I do myself personally think that study tech is being sold to wogs as an indoctrination tool, as there are many much more effective teaching methods widely available. Of course, try and tell a Scientologist that.

 

[Challenge]

This post made me think. That might be good.

It is good to be able to see good and decent people doing what Hubbard and Scientology expect them to do, while disregarding overwhelming evidence that the action is likely to result in harm to others. Especially if the shill also happens to have granted their self permission to disagree with said Hubbard and Pseudo-church, yet still carries on as though duty bound???

At the very least, it is a tremendous service if for no other reason than to highlight the insidiousness of the depth the mind control is able to claw it's way into a person's psyche.

Straying from the topic a smidgeon, how does a drug pusher justify their actions? There would have to be some sort of disconnect going on. Likely with reality.

In delivering auditing to Narconon clients, The justification most given for pushing drugs was " I am relieving suffering".
hope that helps.

challenge

 

[Challenge]

Outstanding observation!

In consonance (literally and gramatically) with your post, like everything else in Scientology it was a...

Multifaceted mockup to make more money and manipulatively muckup mankind's mind & money.


muck up. To bungle, damage, or ruin.

We had to put the garb back on after the 1976 raid.
I remember my Course Supervisor, Angela, saying to me that I was the least likely looking Minister that she had ever seen.
I felt foolish in the get-up. But the most foolish that I ever felt was when I would have to deliver 'The Rite of Forgiveness', wherein the auditor tells the PC, after Confessionals, that he is forgiven by all Scientologists for the transgressions that he had fully given" ( that's not verbatim, I di'nt look it up) lol
It astounded me that the PCs responded to this horseshit with joy.

challenge

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

We had to put the garb back on after the 1976 raid.
I remember my Course Supervisor, Angela, saying to me that I was the least likely looking Minister that she had ever seen.
I felt foolish in the get-up. But the most foolish that I ever felt was when I would have to deliver 'The Rite of Forgiveness', wherein the auditor tells the PC, after Confessionals, that he is forgiven by all Scientologists for the transgressions that he had fully given" ( that's not verbatim, I di'nt look it up) lol
It astounded me that the PCs responded to this horseshit with joy.

challenge

At FCDC we had to put on the garb in 1973 when the books and meters were returned from the FDA.

That night we stayed up all night putting in the stickers in all of the books and on the meters.

The Anabaptist Jacques