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CoS Scns to Protest DM at Next Event???

KnightVision

Gold Meritorious Patron
Wouldn't it be great to see CoS Scns get up and stand down DM at the next event?

Just how long will they sit still and remain silent about the empty Idle Orgs?


Is 'being at cause' a lost notion for them?
 

Doom

Lurking.
All I can say is I would love to see DM protested at his own ego feeding PR BS events or even better heckled by the crowd. that would be a big lol for me, to watch him cave in on himself (blackhole style).
 

GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
heckling DM

In the event that DM received a mass heckling, that would be the end of his reign. He would flip out, it would be everybody elses fault, and, he might go so far with his antics that even at the Int base the spell would finally be broken, the guards would lock his ass up. That would be the end.

Is it possible for that to happen? Anything is possible, but not bloody likely. A heckler at one of those events would be instantly declared. If someone is at one of those events, he probably is someone that finds it important to remain in good standing with Cof$. NOBODY WOULD WANT TO BE FIRST TO HECKLE. If someone were to infiltrate an event for heckling purposes tho ... if there exists enough pent up animosity, just a few people willing to be first may do the trick. Remember, tyrants tend to not do so well with ridicule.

Pete
 

Kookaburra

Gold Meritorious Patron
In the event that DM received a mass heckling, that would be the end of his reign. He would flip out, it would be everybody elses fault, and, he might go so far with his antics that even at the Int base the spell would finally be broken, the guards would lock his ass up. That would be the end.

Is it possible for that to happen? Anything is possible, but not bloody likely. A heckler at one of those events would be instantly declared. If someone is at one of those events, he probably is someone that finds it important to remain in good standing with Cof$. NOBODY WOULD WANT TO BE FIRST TO HECKLE. If someone were to infiltrate an event for heckling purposes tho ... if there exists enough pent up animosity, just a few people willing to be first may do the trick. Remember, tyrants tend to not do so well with ridicule.

Pete

Are you volunteering?

I think DM's thugs would jump on the first heckler with such ferocity that no-one would ever dare to even contemplate it again.

Head on a pike tech.
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Davey would still have control of the money. And, control of the money is control of Scientology. Sure, control of the mind is there too, but, the money's the 'real' control. Anyone who 'locked up' Davey would be arrested. Unlike a banana republic where the 'government' is the law unto itself and can therefore be replaced by force, Scientology actually exists in the Wog World.

Zinj
 

Good twin

Floater
Davey would still have control of the money. And, control of the money is control of Scientology. Sure, control of the mind is there too, but, the money's the 'real' control. Anyone who 'locked up' Davey would be arrested. Unlike a banana republic where the 'government' is the law unto itself and can therefore be replaced by force, Scientology actually exists in the Wog World.

Zinj

Oh My God. I really got this Zinj. "Scientology actually exists in the Wog World". This is a concept that Scientologists don't get, can't get and will be victimized by. This is why Rex Fowler can become a DB overnight and his wife and family will be proud that he protected the church. This is why Scientologist can say that suicide is sometimes the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics. This is why Scientologists don't see telling an acceptable truth as wrong.

Scientologists operate on the concept that the Wog World is unimportant and Scientology is operating in it's own universe. But this is a HUGE misconception. It's like telling a Scientologist that the laws of physics are just as true as the theta mest theory. They won't and can't get it. However just as in the laws of the physical sciences, Scientologists are still subject to the basic truths of the Wog World.

Oh My God. The world is NOT flat!!!!:omg:
 

minnie

Patron with Honors
Clusters (pardon the pun) of scios simply leaving/walking out at different points in the event would have a big impact, and would be more confrontable to carry out IMO, and less likely to result in some sort of stormtrooper-style response on the public from OSA/Security thugs. Gutsier scios who can see the end is near for DM anyhow and thus may not care about threatened disconnection etc, on their way out could yell out "bullshit" or something... :confused2: :D No matter how a mutiny is carried out, it is still a mutiny. :happydance:
 

KnightVision

Gold Meritorious Patron
Davey would still have control of the money. And, control of the money is control of Scientology. Sure, control of the mind is there too, but, the money's the 'real' control. Anyone who 'locked up' Davey would be arrested. Unlike a banana republic where the 'government' is the law unto itself and can therefore be replaced by force, Scientology actually exists in the Wog World.

Zinj

Very well said! Yet, let us not forget that Davey took control of Scn by force.

But as you say, that force was backed up by 'suit cases full of cash'... i.e. the regularly delivered 'cash donations' to Lron while in hiding...
 

uniquemand

Unbeliever
I love the idea of Miscavige facing a group of scios who developed a backbone. However, it's much more likely that the cowards will continue using jellyfish tech.
 

byte301

Crusader
Well if they ever grow some I have a huge box of rotten tomatoes ready to go. I will gladly send them to anyone with cojones enough to throw them at the next event. :D
 

TG1

Angelic Poster
It's doubtful the physical security at these big events would allow entrance by anyone into the hall where DM is speaking who isn't a proven loyalist. Anybody really likely to protest probably wouldn't get in.

However, I do fantasize about critics / anons / FZers / Indies hijacking the video and audio technology of the event and showing alternative video / slides / narration of what the REAL scene is inside the CoS. I fantasize that Heber, Debbie Cook, and a lots of OTs (known to those inside the hall) would tell it like it is.

This new version of the truth would be acceptable enough to the audience that they'd stand up and scream WTF and basically tear the house down!

Ahhhh ... now that would make a great next-to-the-last scene in a movie I'd love to see made one day.

And afterward, everyone would go their own way, as they saw fit, as they wanted.

That's my fantasy. Or one of them, anyway.
 

TG1

Angelic Poster
I have no idea if Heber will ever speak out publicly against the CoS insanity, and he's not essential to my fantasy coming true.

But a lot of things didn't happen a long time ago that have happened since.

Many successful revolutions have occurred after a lot of unsuccessful revolutionary attempts -- which were necessary precursors to the final successful uprising.

Drip, drip, drip ....
 

AnonKat

Crusader
Heber didn't tell it like it was when he wasn't in the Hall, why would he now? Niether did any of the others.

Heber Jentzch is 78 and still in the RPF I think. They let Leserve out mainly because he is non threatening to the Dwarf.

People on Martys Blog report that Sea Org Members get a little more äir"now and that There was no regging at the Event leserve spoke.

My hunch is that Miscavige is on a Vacation or Miooxon talked some sense into him.
 

Feral

Rogue male
In a way they are showing their disapproval for DM.

Many aren't going to events or mandatory briefings.

It's the only kind of revolt you can have in Scientology, a silent one. Hubbard really set that one up and DM polished it to a totalitarian perfection, there is no other safe way to show disapproval in the cult other than to vote with your feet.
 
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KnightVision

Gold Meritorious Patron
In a way they are showing their disapproval for DM.

Many aren't going to events or mandatory briefings.

Yes, I see that too. And it does speak loudly.


Yet, I believe that it will come to pass eventually that the in house Scns take a stand... it's all a matter of 'how bad does it have to get before they attempt the last ditch effort'...

When it's too late?:melodramatic:
 
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GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
popcorn tech

Yes, I see that too. And it does speak loudly.


Yet, I believe that it will come to pass eventually that the in house Scns take a stand... it's all a matter of 'how bad does it have to get before they attempt the last ditch effort'...

When it too late?:melodramatic:



If and/or when the in house Scilons decide to stand, it will definitely be time for popcorn tech while we sit and watch in amuzement tech.

Pete
 
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