Eaten Alive on ESMB

[Alanzo]

I see this board as a population containing deeply hurt people.

Members commonly band together to protect each other from perceived harm, and attack those they think are harming their friends.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that too many here see as "stirring the pot" - whatever that means for whoever interprets it that way at the time.

The "pot stirrers" are attacked and defended against by the friends of whoever they think is being harmed.

I used to have a dog when I was a child who was driven crazy by kids walking home from school who would kick the cyclone fence while my dog barked at them from inside the yard. He was actually very traumatized by their teasing, and seeing his trauma, the kids would keep kicking, just to keep him freaking out. It was entertaining to them to watch him freak out.

Some people believe that's what I am doing here. I'm stirring the pot just to see everyone get upset.

Sorry, I might be that stupid, but I'm not that cruel. I am actually writing things that I sincerely believe, and that are important to me. But what happens is that not everybody believes as I do, and so I try to convince them, and then this turns into more perceived pot stirring and everybody freaks out. Again, people think I enjoy this. I don't. I have had some of the most unpleasant experiences I have ever had in my life here during those times.

I see it now as some kind of toxic magnet, where I try to convince a whole message board of something I sincerely believe and this prompts me to be eaten alive by people who see me as trying to hurt others, and they in turn, are just defending their friends against what they see is a blatant attack by me. Then I defend myself further because I am being so misunderstood, which then prompts more perceptions that I am attacking people, and more counter-attacks ensue to defend their friends.

And yes, this is crazy.

I can attest that if a person keeps it up, they will be eaten alive by the group.

As others have observed, this can be common behavior on all message boards, not just ones for Ex-Scientologists.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that will be perceived as "stirring the pot" and upset an already upset and hurt population of people, no matter whether I believe those statements sincerely or not.

My opinions will NOT save the world.

They are just my opinions.

I apologize for hurting anyone.

Please don't eat me alive again.

Alanzo

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Allright, I promise. I won't eat you alive!

 

[Dulloldfart]

My stirring comments were simply about what I see as attempts at self-aggrandizement by importing drama unnecessarily. "Protection of my friends" (those being attacked) has nothing to do with it.

Paul

 

[He-man]

I promise not to bite as long as you keep them posts coming.

Your mileage may wary.

 

[Pooks]

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

I see this board as a population containing deeply hurt people.

Members commonly band together to protect each other from perceived harm, and attack those they think are harming their friends.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that too many here see as "stirring the pot" - whatever that means for whoever interprets it that way at the time.

The "pot stirrers" are attacked and defended against by the friends of whoever they think is being harmed.

I used to have a dog when I was a child who was driven crazy by kids walking home from school who would kick the cyclone fence while my dog barked at them from inside the yard. He was actually very traumatized by their teasing, and seeing his trauma, the kids would keep kicking, just to keep him freaking out. It was entertaining to them to watch him freak out.

Some people believe that's what I am doing here. I'm stirring the pot just to see everyone get upset.

Sorry, I might be that stupid, but I'm not that cruel. I am actually writing things that I sincerely believe, and that are important to me. But what happens is that not everybody believes as I do, and so I try to convince them, and then this turns into more perceived pot stirring and everybody freaks out. Again, people think I enjoy this. I don't. I have had some of the most unpleasant experiences I have ever had in my life here during those times.

I see it now as some kind of toxic magnet, where I try to convince a whole message board of something I sincerely believe and this prompts me to be eaten alive by people who see me as trying to hurt others, and they in turn, are just defending their friends against what they see is a blatant attack by me. Then I defend myself further because I am being so misunderstood, which then prompts more perceptions that I am attacking people, and more counter-attacks ensue to defend their friends.

And yes, this is crazy.

I can attest that if a person keeps it up, they will be eaten alive by the group.

As others have observed, this can be common behavior on all message boards, not just ones for Ex-Scientologists.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that will be perceived as "stirring the pot" and upset an already upset and hurt population of people, no matter whether I believe those statements sincerely or not.

My opinions will NOT save the world.

They are just my opinions.

I apologize for hurting anyone.

Please don't eat me alive again.

Alanzo

I love it when you get all cannibalistic.

Alonzo, I disagree. I think there is more of a plurality of views on this board than ever before.

But as far as the being eaten alive, you've got to do what your dog would do and bite back.

That's what I do.

People sometimes get sick of me because I am so unrelenting.

But I stick it out when there is a pile-on.

Hell, you should have seen what happened to the Commander.

I think the most important thing when posting views on this board is clarity.

I think if people were a little bit clearer and precise in their posts there would be 90% fewer fights.

When posts aren't precise, very precise, people get suspicious of the intention of the poster.

And that, on top of an ambiguous post, they reply with a caustic statement.

And the fight begins.

When someone replies to me in a caustic way it usually includes a statement like "in other words you're saying..." or "I guess you think that...".

This tells me that they didn't understand my precise meaning. So my next post is to try and clarify what I said rather than attack back.

And the problem statement can be really subtle.

So, my advice, is that if you see yourself being eaten alive, clarify the menu.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[Lone Star]

Well I never actually got a taste. Did anyone else? Does he taste good? Need salt? No?

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

Well I never actually got a taste. Did anyone else? Does he taste good? Need salt? No?

Like armadillo oddly enough.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[Lone Star]

Like armadillo oddly enough.

The Anabaptist Jacques

Ooooohhhh.....that meat's really tough. Gonna hafta slow cook then with lots of spices...

 

[Free Being Me]

Ooooohhhh.....that meat's really tough. Gonna hafta slow cook then with lots of spices...

Seriously though, let's relax and enjoy everyones company, Al. No one here is perfect, the exception being the model below. God, I hope she ain't an OSA honey pot.

 

[AnonKat]

[video=youtube;pK2WJd5bXFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2WJd5bXFg[/video]

 

[In present time]

I have no idea what you believe.
Did I miss something?
You came back, and then there was a long thread about internet security.

 

[pollywog]

Alonzo, you are well respected here, and elsewhere on the web. You get to feel, think, post, say whatever is in your heart. You know what your motivation is, no matter what the arena. So, say what you feel, think (yada)... And know that if you're coming from a pure space, the hurt you think you are causing to others is likely cognitive dissonance on their part.

I know, for me, oftentimes the things that "hurt" are the things I need to look at more closely.

I guess what I'm saying, sloppily, is: say what you feel and damn the torpedoes. You really can't be "eaten" on a website. Enjoy your family, enjoy your life.

(maybe I misunderstood everything in your post. I only come around sometimes...)

 

[pollywog]

Oh, but Alonzo? Even though you're way smarter than me, if you say something douchy or stupid, Imma going to get all up in your grill.

/heh. Kidding. No. Seriously. Dont eat me.

 

[Red Valiant]

I see this board as a population containing deeply hurt people.

Members commonly band together to protect each other from perceived harm, and attack those they think are harming their friends.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that too many here see as "stirring the pot" - whatever that means for whoever interprets it that way at the time.

The "pot stirrers" are attacked and defended against by the friends of whoever they think is being harmed.

I used to have a dog when I was a child who was driven crazy by kids walking home from school who would kick the cyclone fence while my dog barked at them from inside the yard. He was actually very traumatized by their teasing, and seeing his trauma, the kids would keep kicking, just to keep him freaking out. It was entertaining to them to watch him freak out.

Some people believe that's what I am doing here. I'm stirring the pot just to see everyone get upset.

Sorry, I might be that stupid, but I'm not that cruel. I am actually writing things that I sincerely believe, and that are important to me. But what happens is that not everybody believes as I do, and so I try to convince them, and then this turns into more perceived pot stirring and everybody freaks out. Again, people think I enjoy this. I don't. I have had some of the most unpleasant experiences I have ever had in my life here during those times.

I see it now as some kind of toxic magnet, where I try to convince a whole message board of something I sincerely believe and this prompts me to be eaten alive by people who see me as trying to hurt others, and they in turn, are just defending their friends against what they see is a blatant attack by me. Then I defend myself further because I am being so misunderstood, which then prompts more perceptions that I am attacking people, and more counter-attacks ensue to defend their friends.

And yes, this is crazy.

I can attest that if a person keeps it up, they will be eaten alive by the group.

As others have observed, this can be common behavior on all message boards, not just ones for Ex-Scientologists.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that will be perceived as "stirring the pot" and upset an already upset and hurt population of people, no matter whether I believe those statements sincerely or not.

My opinions will NOT save the world.

They are just my opinions.

I apologize for hurting anyone.

Please don't eat me alive again.

Alanzo

More than often, a side dish served with eating others on $cn related forums is ~buttersquash~ a group of antagonists who have really never had any importance in the bigger picture of $cn's harm. They started feeding on ARS, the FactNet.org, then OCMB, have been thriving here on ESMB for quite a while, and most recently attempted to ~eat~ folks on Facebook's SPs-or-Us discussion group... but were eventually rejected as undesirables for using bogus references to prove some obtuse and hateful point.

I agree with you that many folks here are hurting. Some are quite angry...if not royally pissed-off because of how $cn has effected their lives. Some want to say(fool ya)...."don't look there....look here instead" kinda of tactics to soften the blow. I think the key here is the concept of "member/s!" Many of us were ~members~ of the Co$. We regret those times .... literally wasted years and assets. We now want to be ~members~ (again) of some group who opposes the corruption we've endured in the past. Our trust was erroded 100 times over. So your present concerns are indeed justified. Proceed with caution Alonzo...but be kind and not nasty! tp

 

[Red Valiant]

...oh and as a PS, isn't it quite interesting, fun, and ironic, that tonight is the new season premiere of AMC's "The Walking Dead?"

 

[degraded being]

My stirring comments were simply about what I see as attempts at self-aggrandizement by importing drama unnecessarily. "Protection of my friends" (those being attacked) has nothing to do with it.

Paul

Not for you. AFAICR you don't discuss issues on emotional grounds.
Some others do though.

 

[Panda Termint]

More than often, a side dish served with eating others on $cn related forums is ~buttersquash~ a group of antagonists who have really never had any importance in the bigger picture of $cn's harm. They started feeding on ARS, the FactNet.org, then OCMB, have been thriving here on ESMB for quite a while, and most recently attempted to ~eat~ folks on Facebook's SPs-or-Us discussion group... but were eventually rejected as undesirables for using bogus references to prove some obtuse and hateful point.

I agree with you that many folks here are hurting. Some are quite angry...if not royally pissed-off because of how $cn has effected their lives. Some want to say(fool ya)...."don't look there....look here instead" kinda of tactics to soften the blow. I think the key here is the concept of "member/s!" Many of us were ~members~ of the Co$. We regret those times .... literally wasted years and assets. We now want to be ~members~ (again) of some group who opposes the corruption we've endured in the past. Our trust was erroded 100 times over. So your present concerns are indeed justified. Proceed with caution Alonzo...but be kind and not nasty!

tp

Speaking of importing drama...

It's like a magical incantation or some such!

 

[Alanzo]

More than often, a side dish served with eating others on $cn related forums is ~buttersquash~ a group of antagonists who have really never had any importance in the bigger picture of $cn's harm. They started feeding on ARS, the FactNet.org, then OCMB, have been thriving here on ESMB for quite a while, and most recently attempted to ~eat~ folks on Facebook's SPs-or-Us discussion group... but were eventually rejected as undesirables for using bogus references to prove some obtuse and hateful point.

I agree with you that many folks here are hurting. Some are quite angry...if not royally pissed-off because of how $cn has effected their lives. Some want to say(fool ya)...."don't look there....look here instead" kinda of tactics to soften the blow. I think the key here is the concept of "member/s!" Many of us were ~members~ of the Co$. We regret those times .... literally wasted years and assets. We now want to be ~members~ (again) of some group who opposes the corruption we've endured in the past. Our trust was erroded 100 times over. So your present concerns are indeed justified. Proceed with caution Alonzo...but be kind and not nasty! tp

Thank you, RV.

The "kind" advice is well taken.

I will really try to do my best.

It's been a little rocky on that, just starting back up again, but I plan to get better at it.

Thanks for your post.

Alanzo

 

[degraded being]

I see this board as a population containing deeply hurt people.

Members commonly band together to protect each other from perceived harm, and attack those they think are harming their friends.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that too many here see as "stirring the pot" - whatever that means for whoever interprets it that way at the time.

The "pot stirrers" are attacked and defended against by the friends of whoever they think is being harmed.

I used to have a dog when I was a child who was driven crazy by kids walking home from school who would kick the cyclone fence while my dog barked at them from inside the yard. He was actually very traumatized by their teasing, and seeing his trauma, the kids would keep kicking, just to keep him freaking out. It was entertaining to them to watch him freak out.

Some people believe that's what I am doing here. I'm stirring the pot just to see everyone get upset.

Sorry, I might be that stupid, but I'm not that cruel. I am actually writing things that I sincerely believe, and that are important to me. But what happens is that not everybody believes as I do, and so I try to convince them, and then this turns into more perceived pot stirring and everybody freaks out. Again, people think I enjoy this. I don't. I have had some of the most unpleasant experiences I have ever had in my life here during those times.

I see it now as some kind of toxic magnet, where I try to convince a whole message board of something I sincerely believe and this prompts me to be eaten alive by people who see me as trying to hurt others, and they in turn, are just defending their friends against what they see is a blatant attack by me. Then I defend myself further because I am being so misunderstood, which then prompts more perceptions that I am attacking people, and more counter-attacks ensue to defend their friends.

And yes, this is crazy.

I can attest that if a person keeps it up, they will be eaten alive by the group.

As others have observed, this can be common behavior on all message boards, not just ones for Ex-Scientologists.

It is not right to come here and to make statements that will be perceived as "stirring the pot" and upset an already upset and hurt population of people, no matter whether I believe those statements sincerely or not.

My opinions will NOT save the world.

They are just my opinions.

I apologize for hurting anyone.

Please don't eat me alive again.

Alanzo

We are all evolving up to the Summatran monkeys (or wherever they are), that have a quick fuck every time a bit of tension happens. We are almost there. Some posters here are semi-evolved and do the quick-fuck-schmooch in words. Some day soon, in the sweet by and by, it will be physical and hairy. It shall come to pass.
You are going to get fucks and get fucked more than many others.