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ESMB Poster "David Mayo"

I baked everybody a non-sectarian Springtime cake to celebrate the Mayo's arrival on board! :happydance:

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We want CAKE! We want CAKE! :p
 
But the Scientology long term fad of ousting and focusing on people's most easily identifiable bad points ... need to be retired

I don't think the primary purpose of the SP declare is to kick people out - it's to keep people in.

I think LRH knew that doubters are going to leave. Better to use them as an example to keep the flock in line. Surely you can stand a little abuse if your spiritual future is at risk!

ML,
Caliwog
http://caliwog.wordpress.com
 
Thanks, Dully...

...meant as an insult or slur on one's character (hello OSA!:wave:) in America it probably more likely means this:

From The Urban Dictionary:
"(noun) a guy who is primarily interested in romancing other people's girl friends. Immortalized in the 1950s by the Everley Brothers in a song ..."
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bird%20dog

In the context of $cn and what was perceived by the young turks to be going on in its field at the time, Paul's earlier definition would be the correct one.
 
Chuck, it's really interesting to hear about what you are doing. It'd be a great thing to have a history of the Church from a truly neutral (not pro-Scn or anti-Scn) POV.

ML,
Caliwog
http://caliwog.wordpress.com

Just asking.....would it really be a history of the "Church" from a not-pro Sn or anti Scn POV? Or is it also intended as a way to preserve and "improve" the "Church", especially the management.

AFAIK Chuck's view is that, like it or not, scientology is here to stay and if the management can only be made to function without some of the nasty bit, the unworkable bits, we would be better for it.
 
Old friends

For you ... ALWAYS! :happydance:

This board is getting to be like a reunion from the '80s. :)


Mark A. Baker

Yes! It reminds me of what Allen Buchanon said back at the AAC. Something to the effect that everyone we ever knew was going to eventually come through the doors there. It is truly magnificent connecting up with old friends.
 
In light of the true significance of the Vernal Season ....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjX3oAwv_Fs

Bon appetit!


Mark A. Baker :p


You'd think they'd have the good sense and the decency to show up naked for a rite like this. But no, not them.

Thanks for the answer on bird-dog. I assume from this then that David was either shagging ther guy's wives or routing Org business to the missions. Hmmm. Somehow I doubt it.
 
Official Scientology could so easily improve their image by doing some apologizing for their mistakes, do an international amnesty, just roll back prices, loosen up, NOT pressure the members with SP declare penalties, THAT would just be so helpful, but they are incapable of seeing this.

Very true Chuck. The current regime is oblivious to how easy it would be to turn around the whole thing.

Doing it completely with "current policy" might be difficult though. The Suppressive Acts PL itself (the list of SP acts) is hopelessly long and useless at this point. And just the act of "declaring someone SP" based on that list is ridiculous, imo.
 
I knew Sandy Wilhere quite well. She was the senior CS at AOLA. She went up lines to INT with Greg and she has since died. I believe she contracted multiple sclerosis. She was not being utilized as a tech person for a long time. I was sad to read that she passed away so unceremoniously. She was also good friends with Barbara Thompkins.

can you say where and when you read this? i'm not seeing confirmation that she is, in fact, deceased. if it was recent, it could be that the data is not yet updated. (and i've checked both her married and maiden names.)

her last listed address as you said:

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...ame&fn=sandy&mn=&ln=wilhere&city=&state=&age=
 
can you say where and when you read this? i'm not seeing confirmation that she is, in fact, deceased. if it was recent, it could be that the data is not yet updated. (and i've checked both her married and maiden names.)

her last listed address as you said:

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...ame&fn=sandy&mn=&ln=wilhere&city=&state=&age=

FWIW, I think I read that info a few months ago, and that she'd had MS.
Sorry I can't remember where exactly.

EDIT. This site: Who's Who at Int/Gold Base? Lists her as dying of ms / Sandy Wilhere: July ---but I don't know what year.
 
Character

You can't tell all the good that someone did, ...

Looking back over the years, I have observed the following: In incredibly tough situations, and no matter the current policy, circumstances or duress involved, some people managed to retain their intelligence and compassion. No matter what pressure from above, the person tried to do their best and help, not harm, those under them or within their scope of influence. They managed to interpret policy or tech in a helpful, not harmful, manner.

The standout for me has always been my beloved husband of 28 years, David. (He'd blush if he had this post, so don't bring it to his attention.)

There are others: Allen Buchanon, who passed away 20 or so years ago, was one of the best people I have ever met. Kind, intelligent, and with a great sense of humour, he would listen tirelessly and try to come up with smart solutions, even under stress. He was truly beloved by his staff, coworkers and friends. We miss him.
 
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