Faking a F/N

[lotus]

Yes - true

We have to check that is is free for use.
(where it comes from, who is sharing, who recorded it)
But a lot are.

Many are released under ''public domaine'' sharing
(often made by amateurs - with their computer and software - and for free sharing)

like here
http://www.midimole.com/fileupload.php

I make most of my living with copyrights - but I also do some release on the public domaine for sharing , personnal use, educational etc.

 

[Jump]

BTW - Welcome back Lotus

 

[MrNobody]

Yes - true

We have to check that is is free for use.
(where it comes from, who is sharing, who recorded it)
But a lot are.

(often made by amateurs - with their computer and software - and for free sharing)

Checking for all the licenses is a real PITA. Even if the interpret is sharing his works for free, you'd still have to check the composers, arrangers and even the friggen sound manufacturers. Just last year, someone was sued for using a certain commercially produced sound, and lost (It was a silly Airport atmosphere sound, IIRC). Otherwise I would just take any MIDI files I want, connect them to my best soundlibrary, and upload them on a free file hoster for everybody to use.

 

[lotus]

The is a fair use policy connecting with copyrights in USA (google fair use copyrights)
Do not know for other countries

Often a professionnal (person - not corporation) do not really mind when people uses ''a creation'' to be exhibited on their personnal internet website - as it also act a a ''free'' promotion. So author should always be mentionned.
As long as the ''user'' is not making money from that nor making a commercial use or sharing. (see fait use copyrights for some cases)

Usually, court case about copyrights infringments are about commercial use and benefit of one's ''art'' without specific permsission and copyrights royalties denied. Wich is about fraud.

 

[MrNobody]

The is a fair use policy connecting with copyrights in USA (google fair use copyrights)
Do not know for other countries

Often a professionnal (person - not corporation) do not really mind when people uses ''a creation'' to be exhibited on their personnal internet website - as it also act a a ''free'' promotion. So author should always be mentionned.
As long as the ''user'' is not making money from that nor making a commercial use or sharing. (see fait use copyrights for some cases)

Usually, court case about copyrights infringments are about commercial use and benefit of one's ''art'' without specific permsission and copyrights royalties denied. Wich is about fraud.

It'd be nice if it were that easy. Anyway, I think we should stop the discussion here, because it's really off topic in this section. If you want, we can continue in the Off Topic section.

 

[FoTi]

Yes it is.

I hear Bach music, cellos and violins, when walking in the forest and listening to the wind's song flowing through branches and leaves. After reaching ''emptiness'' and ''stillness'' into my mind,
and becoming part of the nature, (true nature)
I can hear Bach music and see elves flying all around me.
Birds are talking with me - foxes are coming to make friend with a smile

These are my beautifull lunacy

(cello vibrate with soul, on peace frequency)


* Some midi files are of ''lesser'' quality but some are better.
The advantage is that most of them are shared without any copyright issues
So can be used on website freely.

Beautiful lunacy is lovely.

 

[Winston Smith]

Having been a cellist for the great majority of my life, I count J S Bach as my closest soulmate. Not that I should shame him with association with me, but long
ago I had the realization that the soul of Bach rested in his bass lines, the very foundation of western music. From there flows all. SO naturally I have lived with and studied his Suites for solo cello practically my entire life. When I die, I want his
Sarabande from Suite #5 played, preferrably on my cello, all repeats with normal tuning (the original stipulates the A string tuned down to G).

When I am most depressed, I turn to Bach, and then I am rejuvenated with a deep sense of peace.

Yes it is.

I hear Bach music, cellos and violins, when walking in the forest and listening to the wind's song flowing through branches and leaves. After reaching ''emptiness'' and ''stillness'' into my mind,
and becoming part of the nature, (true nature)
I can hear Bach music and see elves flying all around me.
Birds are talking with me - foxes are coming to make friend with a smile

These are my beautifull lunacy

(cello vibrate with soul, on peace frequency)


* Some midi files are of ''lesser'' quality but some are better.
The advantage is that most of them are shared without any copyright issues
So can be used on website freely.

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Yes - true

We have to check that is is free for use.
(where it comes from, who is sharing, who recorded it)
But a lot are.

Many are released under ''public domaine'' sharing
(often made by amateurs - with their computer and software - and for free sharing)

like here
http://www.midimole.com/fileupload.php

I make most of my living with copyrights - but I also do some release on the public domaine for sharing , personnal use, educational etc.

Yes, one must be very careful. Let's say I release an Overnight Hit entitled "Love Stinks". The record company sucks up all the funds and I get diddly squat. Two weeks later, someone releases their own copy-left MIDI of "Love Stinks" for everyone to enjoy. Beware! The record company could still go for the person who released it, and anyone who uses it!

 

[Winston Smith]

Yes, one must be very careful. Let's say I release an Overnight Hit entitled "Love Stinks". The record company sucks up all the funds and I get diddly squat. Two weeks later, someone releases their own copy-left MIDI of "Love Stinks" for everyone to enjoy. Beware! The record company could still go for the person who released it, and anyone who uses it!

This may be a good reason to "make yer own" music. I mean really play what you want on your own axe. I would like to see anyone sue ME for recording myself, heh.

 

[MrNobody]

This may be a good reason to "make yer own" music. I mean really play what you want on your own axe. I would like to see anyone sue ME for recording myself, heh.

^^^ This!

OTOH, it isn't that easy to make "your own" music nowadays. I've seen people getting sued because 2 bars of their *own* song were *similar* to 2 bars of a copyrighted song. Today's copyright is counterproductive to any artist's evolution.

That's why I play my own music solely for myself and a small circle of friends. The stuff I perform out in the open is just the 20's to 50's Jazz, of which I can afford to pay the GEMA- and related fees and be done with it.

When I include the paperwork that's necessary to *legally' perform copyrighted songs into my hourly payments, it isn't worth it anyway.

Somehow frustrating, but that's just how it is. Seeing some of my friends "steal" a few of my bars 'n styles, work them into their own songs and publish those, helps me deal with that frustration. It outright makes me smile. It "gets the message across" and saves me boring paperwork.

Here's a nice little song - nothing special, but somehow influential to me back in the days. The lyrics, that is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR1Gca6Ve9c

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

This may be a good reason to "make yer own" music. I mean really play what you want on your own axe. I would like to see anyone sue ME for recording myself, heh.

^^^ This!

OTOH, it isn't that easy to make "your own" music nowadays. I've seen people getting sued because 2 bars of their *own* song were *similar* to 2 bars of a copyrighted song. Today's copyright is counterproductive to any artist's evolution.

That's why I play my own music solely for myself and a small circle of friends. The stuff I perform out in the open is just the 20's to 50's Jazz, of which I can afford to pay the GEMA- and related fees and be done with it.

When I include the paperwork that's necessary to *legally' perform copyrighted songs into my hourly payments, it isn't worth it anyway.

Somehow frustrating, but that's just how it is. Seeing some of my friends "steal" a few of my bars 'n styles, work them into their own songs and publish those, helps me deal with that frustration. It outright makes me smile. It "gets the message across" and saves me boring paperwork.

Here's a nice little song - nothing special, but somehow influential to me back in the days. The lyrics, that is...

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That is why the record companies are shitting themselves over The Arctic Monkeys. They hit it big by doing free distribution on 'net.

It is now becoming a practice among established bands who can afford the extra to "produce" the music themselves and then "license" it to a distributor. If you check Sony CDs, much of their material is "licensed".

I will now put people on notice that should they display an F/N that is representative of an F/N that I've previously displayed on a meter, I will be seeking royalties!

 

[Ho Tai]

What???

I have recently acquired a Mark V e-meter (I've got two actually; one working and one that is being repaired). I after many attempts, I haven't been able to get an F/N - I wanted to be able to fake an F/N at will, and so nullify the meter's effects in Sec Checks. I've heard that it has been done before.

Please note that I am not a trained auditor and I'm not sure how the meter should be set up for a sec check. For instance, I imagine a F/N would be easier with a higher sensitivity - so what are the sensitivity knobs set at for a sec check. To be honest, I haven't gotten the pinch test to work. What is the STANDARD TECH on this stuff?

Tom,
Not wanting to pry, but I see two possibilities.
1. You believe in the tech. If so, why are you trying to work around it? Just do the tech and, if you believe as you say you believe, it would be the right thing for you. You are just invalidating the tech by trying to fake an F/N.
2. You do not believe in the tech. So why the *&^@ are you wasting your time and possibly your money by sitting in a stupid sec check???

Either way, your post doesn't quite make sense. Now if you are trying to do a parlor trick to show that the meter isn't all that scientology says it is, then that's an interesting topic of discussion. I'd be surprised if there were more than a few Ex's that haven't tried to fake an F/N at some point to get out of a session gone awry (or cover up something they didn't want to reveal).

 

[Ho Tai]

Never mind

Sorry Tom,
I hadn't read your later post. Now I get it. How did that work out?