FCDC circa 1970

[nozeno]

Is combining mental analysis, with a strong intuitive sense OT?

What is OT?

Is http://www.jackhouck.com/pk.shtml this OT? A trick? A bit of both?

I believe the full potential is only hinted at by what is presently possible and scientifically demonstrable: Remote Viewing, very minor PK, and some clinical psychic healing.

Show you a clear? Show you an OT? Or just hint of the possiblity?

Its not there if you look away.


alex (who read somewhere: "...say only that we do not know the things we say we ought to know, and this is absolutely so.")

Well bully for you Alex. You obviously have superior computer skills. We (at least some of us) just lost interest.

What kind of Kool Aid are you drinking?

 

[alex]

Pink?



alex (who actually found Escalus and his crowd to be a good read or he too would have dropped it...took 2 hours.)

 

[Bikerchick]

Wow. I didn't know this forum existed until today. How cool.

I was "there" from about 1973 to 1978.

Here's some names that I recall, along with all the ones i read on the thread so far:
John Austin, Bill Austin, Jude Lobel, Mike Rabin, John Boucher (deceased), Maryanne Wood, Chuck Judge.

There were alot of really cool people around back then, we would pull all nighters and have a great time, even tho exhausted. I went "exterior" one time lying on the floor in reception after not having slept for 40+ hours. I think it was total exhaustion.

I still get mail and calls from time to time.

 

[quietheart]

Welcome to the forum Bikerchick.
Angl

 

[Bikerchick]

fcdc, i had my years wrong

I had to recalculate when i was on staff. It was 1977 thru 1980. Part of the time was under Bill Franks, he did ride a m/c but i never saw him in Nazi clothes. He once wouldn't let me leave his office until i said i'd work both orgs, so after about an hour i told him i would, just to get the F out of his office and later he was in my face about whether i could live with having lied to him, i said sure i could live with that.

 

[Pliny Younger]

Welcome, Bikerchick.
I know some of those names Jude Lobel, Mike Rabin, John Boucher (deceased), Chuck Judge. You jogged my memory with Jude and Mike R. Chuck is in LA.

 

[Div6]

Welcome, Bikerchick.
I know some of those names Jude Lobel, Mike Rabin, John Boucher (deceased), Chuck Judge. You jogged my memory with Jude and Mike R. Chuck is in LA.

Here's some more names:
Eve Lobell, Abby Bregman, Terry McConnell, Steve Dockendorf, Bobby Florentz, Jim Baldwin, Sheryl DeSimone, Rod Jenkins, Keith Holmes, Dennis (skinny guy, course admin), Ron Baker, Mike Oakes, Gib Campion.

David Graham and Mark McGrath are both still supping from what I understand....

 

[Long Gone]

all things remembered

Here's some more names:
Eve Lobell, Abby Bregman, Terry McConnell, Steve Dockendorf, Bobby Florentz, Jim Baldwin, Sheryl DeSimone, Rod Jenkins, Keith Holmes, Dennis (skinny guy, course admin), Ron Baker, Mike Oakes, Gib Campion.

David Graham and Mark McGrath are both still supping from what I understand....

I'd forgotten all about Jude and Eve Lobell. Terry McConnell got born-again a long time ago. Dont know whatever happened to his wife - maybe still together. Bobby Florentz was a chimney sweep for many years. I'm having some trouble remember Sheryl DeSimone. Bob and Cathy DeSimone (she was in the GO for a while) worked on the Freewinds in the 80's. Janet DeSimone's (DC public) brother is the comic Richard Lewis. (thats what I remember anyway - subject to correction ) Was Sheryl Janet's daughter? Ron Baker and Mike Oakes were part of the Maryland group at DC. Ron and his wife are still in, no idea on Mike.

Here's some other names: Larney and Dee Carson; Cathy Wiltsey; Judy Cranford; Ira and Patty Crowe; Ed Naccash (Patty's brother); Rick and Allyson Kimmel; Billy Jones; Steve Steele; Greg and Lois Gloor. (sorry for any repeats from earlier threads)

 

[sallydannce]

Wow. I didn't know this forum existed until today. How cool.

I was "there" from about 1973 to 1978...

A warm welcome to you Bikerchick.

 

[Div6]

<snip>
Janet DeSimone's (DC public) brother is the comic Richard Lewis. (thats what I remember anyway - subject to correction ) Was Sheryl Janet's daughter?
<snip>

Yes. And your recollection is correct re: Richard Lewis.

 

[nozeno]

I'd forgotten all about Jude and Eve Lobell. Terry McConnell got born-again a long time ago. Dont know whatever happened to his wife - maybe still together. Bobby Florentz was a chimney sweep for many years. I'm having some trouble remember Sheryl DeSimone. Bob and Cathy DeSimone (she was in the GO for a while) worked on the Freewinds in the 80's. Janet DeSimone's (DC public) brother is the comic Richard Lewis. (thats what I remember anyway - subject to correction ) Was Sheryl Janet's daughter? Ron Baker and Mike Oakes were part of the Maryland group at DC. Ron and his wife are still in, no idea on Mike.

Here's some other names: Larney and Dee Carson; Cathy Wiltsey; Judy Cranford; Ira and Patty Crowe; Ed Naccash (Patty's brother); Rick and Allyson Kimmel; Billy Jones; Steve Steele; Greg and Lois Gloor. (sorry for any repeats from earlier threads)

Got some auditing from Ron Baker. Nice guy. Wonder what the hell he is still doing IN. His wife was smokin' hot.

 

[PirateAndBum]

Is Cheryl DeSimone still in? She was a friend of mine back then. Ah the names, the names, a blast from the past. Gib & I were buds. Been an age since I've seen any of them. Is Greg Layton still in? He was the Assistant Guardian for a while. Oh and the cramming officer (and general all around Qual Sec held from below, well maybe was the Qual Sec eventually...) what was his name - really nice guy. So much for the memory of a clear LOL

Mustn't forget Stan Dubin, Steve Lower (he's still a course super or maybe now the DofT I think), Dave Tidman, Tim Mantis, and Brook Campbell - 3 fine auditors

 

[nozeno]

Pirate and Bum

Pliny Younger posted this about Dubin a week ago in case you missed it. http://thiscouldwork.typepad.com/this_could_work/2005/04/index.html

Qual Sec? Bill Reeves? Gyme DeAngelo maybe?

 

[Long Gone]

DC names as of 2005

Layton, Baker, Gloor, Hancock, Terbush, Wiser (Wisner?), Dubin, etc, etc. are all listed here:

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=15129

as contributors to the DC Ideal Org project. 2005. Have no idea if the DC Ideal Org project is still alive - the idealorg website is not.

 

[Long Gone]

Recognize?

Bruce Ullman and John Spagnola. Outside DC org on the day of the FBI raid.

Wonder if Bruce still has his hair. I know John doesn't!

found at 47:14 into the video "The Secret Life of L. Ron Hubbard"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=529204584324100028&hl=en

 

[Long Gone]

Well, dont know why the video does not play. But you can find it here:

http://video.google.com/

googleplayer.swf?docid=529204584324100028&hl=en

 

[Div6]

Got some auditing from Ron Baker. Nice guy. Wonder what the hell he is still doing IN. His wife was smokin' hot.

Their son is in the SO...he was involved in the "headless" Int Event flap....

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/washingtonpost/nohead01042000.htm


"After this photoshop thing was exposed - Karen Hollender went to the Int RPF! She was LRH PPRO INT. Jeff Baker, who did the actual Photoshop work was demoted to CPO from an Officer. He was rushed and Karen had him do it on the fly. The flames were shooting all over the Int Base. DM made a bunch of people feel the pain on this one." - BFG


And now you probably know more about his Sea Org career than Ron and Sally do.......

 

[Div6]

Is Cheryl DeSimone still in? She was a friend of mine back then. Ah the names, the names, a blast from the past. Gib & I were buds. Been an age since I've seen any of them. Is Greg Layton still in? He was the Assistant Guardian for a while. Oh and the cramming officer (and general all around Qual Sec held from below, well maybe was the Qual Sec eventually...) what was his name - really nice guy. So much for the memory of a clear LOL

Mustn't forget Stan Dubin, Steve Lower (he's still a course super or maybe now the DofT I think), Dave Tidman, Tim Mantis, and Brook Campbell - 3 fine auditors

Last I heard she was married with Children in the mid-west. I always Like Sheryl (apart from the fact that she was very good looking) she kept her integrity about her, and refused to be "degraded" when that became the "management style".

Jim Miller was the Qual Sec I think you are referring to. Greg and Jane Layton are still "in" to a certain degree....at least they show up for events from time to time.

 

[Div6]

Layton, Baker, Gloor, Hancock, Terbush, Wiser (Wisner?), Dubin, etc, etc. are all listed here:

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=15129

as contributors to the DC Ideal Org project. 2005. Have no idea if the DC Ideal Org project is still alive - the idealorg website is not.

They bought a building or 2 on 16th Street a few years back, the idea being that the current building (Fraser Mansion) will be the "Div 6" building, and the Academy, HGC, Qual. HCO and Exec functions will all move to the new buildings.
But they are still sittingin empty, apparently raising money for "reno's" etc.

It keeps the money off of the books and away from IRS scrutiny....but I am amazed at the blatant criminal exchange...just like the "Super Power" building that is just an empty shell STILL....

 

[Bikerchick]

I remember the raid at FCDC on S Street. I was just new on staff and they made us call and tell our parents that everything was OK etc etc . So when I called my Mom she had NO IDEA what i was talking about. It just created a big problem at hime, and then of course, one of the Qual staff said my Mom must be an SP.

Writing about this stuff makes me angry, how manipulating and intimidating some staff were. I guess I need to post my story inside Scn on another thread.

I attested to Clear in 1984 and just for fun a few years ago, after being called 100X times by FCDC staff I asked them to give me my Clear #. That quieted them down.....it was just a stat push, so much of THAT went on.

Remeber the letters we had to write? "Are you there?". Yikes.