Flagdown 2014: media coverage, etc

[Smurf]

So tell AMA to fight the battle you are fighting for her here.

She knows. There's been alot of crossposting going on. Laura's too busy right now feeling sorry for herself & claiming her critics are "control freaks". As anons would say.. Bawwwwwwwwww.

"I'm out about $1,500 of my own money over the past six months that will not be reimbursed to me. This doesn't include the full-time effort I've put into this conference for all these months.

No one else was around to walk into the venue and the sheriff's department and sign their name to every contract including the event insurance. It fell to me. I didn't want to be the one who had to put my name on everything, but there was no one else. No one.

I understand that some people don't have any compassion for other human beings even when they're physically sick. I understand that there are people who are control freaks who feel that other people should be punished for not abiding by the control freak's wishes. Some people live in a sick and sad world. I don't. I have a happy marriage. I have family and friends who know me in real life and love me. I have former employers who love and respect me. I have not wasted one minute of my life. I have lived it as fully as possible.

I actually don't need all this bullshit and I hate putting up with it, but I've continued to do it because someone has to do it." amaX, Today at 9:43 AM

 

[Cohors Veritas]

She knows. There's been alot of crossposting going on. Laura's too busy right now feeling sorry for herself & claiming her critics are "control freaks". As anons would say.. Bawwwwwwwwww.

"I'm out about $1,500 of my own money over the past six months that will not be reimbursed to me. This doesn't include the full-time effort I've put into this conference for all these months.

No one else was around to walk into the venue and the sheriff's department and sign their name to every contract including the event insurance. It fell to me. I didn't want to be the one who had to put my name on everything, but there was no one else. No one.

I understand that some people don't have any compassion for other human beings even when they're physically sick. I understand that there are people who are control freaks who feel that other people should be punished for not abiding by the control freak's wishes. Some people live in a sick and sad world. I don't. I have a happy marriage. I have family and friends who know me in real life and love me. I have former employers who love and respect me. I have not wasted one minute of my life. I have lived it as fully as possible.

I actually don't need all this bullshit and I hate putting up with it, but I've continued to do it because someone has to do it." amaX, Today at 9:43 AM

She does love to play the martyr to her cult like cadre on WWP, and do they ever lap it up! It's such a shame, since that forum was truly instrumental back in the day. Now it's a completely different beast. As a lawyer who has contributed quite a bit to WWP in the past said of recent events:

Enjoy the fact you've become what you claimed to despise.

I am the fuck out of here and am deleting my account.

I find it absolutely fucking unbelievable that anyone would defend a so-called critic calling the cops on another one of us.

Anyone who supports this is an enemy.

Burn in hell Amax. Enjoy your moronic responses, I won't read them.

 

[Anonycat]

She does love to play the martyr to her cult like cadre on WWP, and do they ever lap it up! It's such a shame, since that forum was truly instrumental back in the day. Now it's a completely different beast. As a lawyer who has contributed quite a bit to WWP in the past said of recent events:

Welcome to ESMB, Muldrake.

Quote Originally Posted by muldrake

Enjoy the fact you've become what you claimed to despise.

I am the fuck out of here and am deleting my account.

I find it absolutely fucking unbelievable that anyone would defend a so-called critic calling the cops on another one of us.

Anyone who supports this is an enemy.

Burn in hell Amax. Enjoy your moronic responses, I won't read them.

 

[Smurf]

Look who showed up to Flag Down's new venue. Crybaby chose not to appear.

 

[aegerprimo]

Sorry to interrupt... the live stream was intermittent and I did not see the speaker after Marisa... but it was Bob Peterson (part of the LMT), and now Ray Emmons is speaking (who was in Clamwater popo.) Some info about him - http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/library.php?t=Ray+Emmons

The stream of sound and video is better now. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/flag-down-2014

 

[Cohors Veritas]

Better watch out, Smurf! Apparently she's aware of your supressive comments & encouraging her minions to make you aware of it. /sarcasm

Could someone go to the sp's are us facebook page and tell Garry Scarff that I am now aware that he's posting bullshit lies about me and I look forward to keeping up with the thread to see just how far down the rabbit hole he goes with his bullshit? It would be so cool if he could take a selfie while he's posting about me so we could see if he's foaming at the mouth. That's too much to ask, right? Yeah. That's too much to ask.

Garry, Garry, Garry. We will never be besties because you fucked up a joint CPD/child services investigation into the Cadet Org at Flag. You alerted the cult that the investigation was happening by posting it online and the cult cleaned up their mess so nothing was seen and I ended up with yet another cease and desist letter from the Wally Pope Cult Attorneys Offices. The kid who would have been investigated went right back to Flag after things calmed down. You naughty naughty fellow messing that up.

That post got four likes on WWP, believe it or not.

 

[Lone Star]

Better watch out, Smurf! Apparently she's aware of your supressive comments & encouraging her minions to make you aware of it. /sarcasm



That post got four likes on WWP, believe it or not.

Arrrrrrrgh!!!! I can't shut up anymore!

She got four likes, and will probably get more, because WWP is a forum for asshole MORONS!!! (Not all of them of course....but more than a few).

Hey Laura....would you have found a way to exclude Tony O if he had shown up? You despise him too. It's well documented. Calling him "Blowtega" over on that asshat forum of yours.

Whew! That feels better.

I know, I know.....I'm very weak. I jes cain't hep it!!

 

[Smurf]

Sorry to interrupt... the live stream was intermittent and I did not see the speaker after Marisa... but it was Bob Peterson (part of the LMT), and now Ray Emmons is speaking (who was in Clamwater popo.) Some info about him - http://www.xenu-directory.net[/QUOT...//www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6yI9Ulsom4[/video]

 

[Smurf]

Better watch out, Smurf! Apparently she's aware of your supressive comments & encouraging her minions to make you aware of it. /sarcasm. That post got four likes on WWP, believe it or not.

LOL. Yeah, the crybaby has her fan club on WWP. She has a compulsion for making up shit & posting it as fact. She should be working for OSA.

 

[lotus]

I know, I know.....I'm very weak. I jes cain't hep it!!

Your funny though!

 

[Cohors Veritas]

Arrrrrrrgh!!!! I can't shut up anymore!

She got four likes, and will probably get more, because WWP is a forum for asshole MORONS!!! (Not all of them of course....but many).

Hey Laura....would you have found a way to exclude Tony O if he had shown up? You despise him too. It's well documented. Calling him "Blowtega" over on that asshat forum of yours.

Whew! That feels better.

I know, I know.....I'm very weak. I jes cain't hep it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBmFwKH5bVY

 

[Free to shine]

It's a shame that this actually very interesting discussion about the injunction in operation - or not - has to be sidetracked into personalities.
Keep "he/she is a ...." out of it and it would be fascinating.

 

[RogerB]

This is the relevant video. The quality makes it almost unwatchable. (You may want to watch from the beginning to get practice at comprehending the stutter.)

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/47308093

The anonymous gentleman who is speaking about Lisa McP gets to the relevant part (at the Fort Harrison) at about minute 15, thru to the end of the video (?). I am watching it now..

Failboat, good action providing this . . .

Is this the same info/guy Knows mentions in post #430?

To be noted, if the accusations are true that she was "Locked in a footlocker (particularly in her state) and dies there" then this becomes a Capital Crime of murder or at a minimum, negligent homicide.

This guy has a duty under the law to report these facts to the authorities . . . and if not he himself is committing a crime.

This has the potential to blow the lid of the criminal cult!!

R

 

[Veda]

Look who showed up to Flag Down's new venue. Crybaby chose not to appear.

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Since Mark Bunker was the primary affected party, and no actual serious damage was done, perhaps we should wait for another statement from him before declaring all out war on the organizer of Flagdown, and on WWP.

 

[Magoo]

Great decision to have Mark Bunker come!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152454133824432&set=gm.631474486920919&type=1&theater

Love it!

Tory/Magoo

 

[Smurf]

Since Mark Bunker was the primary affected party, and no actual serious damage was done, perhaps we should wait for another statement from him before declaring all out war on the organizer of Flagdown, and on WWP.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[RogerB]

My, my . . . I goes to dinner, enjoys some wonderful Malbec . . . and look what I come back to!!

You know, I was reading Smurf's posts among the traffic since about 5:00pm NYC time (and all you other wonderful trumpeters!) and felt compelled to post something humorous with a twist of naughty to it . . . . Oh what the Hell, DO IT Roger B . .

NO [STRIKE]Smurfing[/STRIKE] smirking now, Smurf You have been vindicated. (And for the record, I am glad I hung in there to insist the truth of the actual dictates of the injunction were correctly communicated and understood).

But, I must tell you I am saddened by all this drama. Good people, even though acting in error but with good will, have been unnecessarily hurt and/or embarrassed by the carry-on of Laura. Some in good conscious defended her only to be let down by the truth of her conduct.

So much wasted energy and waste of a good opportunity.

Some, of course, have felt this thread's explosion into the exposure of the fugg-ups and silly errors that has been so damaging to our cause and which incorrectly inferred more power on the cult than correct, was a distraction to the good presentations. On that I have to say . . . the whole truth and nothing but the truth gets the job done. Being "nice" does not.

I for one am now looking forward to being able to concentrate on the actual Conference and the players presenting what the world needs to hear . . . umm, and welcome to the spotlight Mr. Bunker. You deserve to have your big grin prominently displayed there!

RogerB

 

[sallydannce]

My, my . . . I goes to dinner, enjoys some wonderful Malbec . . . and look what I come back to!!

You know, I was reading Smurf's posts among the traffic since about 5:00pm NYC time (and all you other wonderful trumpeters!) and felt compelled to post something humorous with a twist of naughty to it . . . . Oh what the Hell, DO IT Roger B . .

NO [STRIKE]Smurfing[/STRIKE] smirking now, Smurf You have been vindicated. (And for the record, I am glad I hung in there to insist the truth of the actual dictates of the injunction were correctly communicated and understood).

But, I must tell you I am saddened by all this drama. Good people, even though acting in error but with good will, have been unnecessarily hurt and/or embarrassed by the carry-on of Laura. Some in good conscious defended her only to be let down by the truth of her conduct.

So much wasted energy and waste of a good opportunity.

Some, of course, have felt this thread's explosion into the exposure of the fugg-ups and silly errors that has been so damaging to our cause and which incorrectly inferred more power on the cult that correct, was a distraction to the good presentations. On that I have to say . . . the whole truth and nothing but the truth gets the job done. Being "nice" does not.

I for one am now looking forward to being able to concentrate on the actual Conference and the players presenting what the world needs to hear . . . umm, and welcome to the spotlight Mr. Bunker. You deserve to have your big grin prominently displayed there!

RogerB

Given I can only be "quite grown-up & serious" between the very limited hours of 8 and 9 p.m. (except weekends), I have to say Roger it thoroughly pisses me off when you write about "good food and good wine" so often and not once have you damn well shared any of it with me!

I am pouting and sulking and huffing and flicking my hair back....

Fcuk truth Roger! Hand the food, wine and cigars over!

These speakers are terrific! Really enjoyed this mornings (their evening) line-up.

 

[FoTi]

What I am observing and finding interesting and a little disturbing, is that Ci/C and failboat keep asserting an agenda that suits the CofS.

It is a very simple proposition: the injunction is on BOTH parties, the CofS and the named anti-Scn folks, and it defines explicitly the exact small geographic locations to which it applies. It also defines, states and upholds the freedom of the parties named to do as they lawfully choose anywhere else. To wit:
As to all other areas in Pinellas County, Florida, the named defendants, and their officers, agents, servants, employees and those persons and entities in actual concert or participation with them, are free to engage in lawful picketing, lawful protesting and lawful demonstrating. "Lawful" picketing means "not contrary to or forbidden by law", provided that at all times while picketing, all persons bound by this injunction shall comply with the anti-noise provisions of this injunction.

I have simply pointed out that for Laura to think or act as she has on the basis that the injunction has any affect on a location other than it defines is an error . . . and particularly so since the injunction itself states the parties are free to act and pursue their business in “all other areas in Pinellas County, Florida.”

But CiC and failboat continue to assert and push the misrepresentation of what the injunction stipulates in a manner that promotes the idea that it restrains ANY association with the named parties in ANY location!

This interpretation being pushed by CiC and failboat obviously serves the interests of the Cof$. Whether or not they are deliberately and knowingly acting in the interests of the Cof$ or as agents on its behalf I will not speculate as I do not know . . . . but that their assertions are in line with the Cof$ interests is an obvious fact.

Whomever it was over at WWP who put the scare into “the organizer(s)” of Flag Down that the parties named in the injunction would cause legal problems for the “organizer(s)” should they attend the conference IN AN ALLOWED JURISDICTION, I don’t know. But I recommend the guys at WWP take a look at the traffic and see who is running the Cof$ agenda on you . . .

What I find disappointing (and revealing) is the tactic used against me and others here who have spoken of the demonstrable limitations and inapplicability of the injunction: the effort to shut us up with the smears such as “you put your ass on the line first” . . . even in that it is to be noted that they are still trumpeting the idea that the Cof$ is a threat in this matter when in fact the Cof$ itself is restrained by the injunction!!!!

Sad to say, while I applaud the speakers and the idea of the conference, the manner in which it has been conducted along with the dialogue trumpeting the boogyman nature of the Cof$ has too much served the interests of the Cof$.

However, having said that, when the videos and tapes of the presentations hit the internet and are hopefully circulated to interested media for its use, a major blow against the cult will occur. It is wonderful to see such an array of knowledgeable talent presenting the facts need to inform the public and society at large of the evil and dangers of this cult.

THANK YOU, ROGER.

 

[failboat]

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But, I must tell you I am saddened by all this drama. Good people, even though acting in error but with good will, have been unnecessarily hurt and/or embarrassed by the carry-on of Laura. Some in good conscious defended her only to be let down by the truth of her conduct.
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I was not let down by her conduct. My understanding is that this was the decision of the other organizers. I'm not hunting down the link to the full statement for you, but it included this:

The other organizers decided between themselves to move the conference to a new venue and they are inviting Mark Bunker and Tom Smith to the event. It seems I am cordially invited to attend, but I will not do so.