Flags and questions

[Neverknew]

Let me apologize in advance. My goal is not to offend anyone. I'm trying to learn here.

So as some of you may have read, I have never been a Scientologist and (Thank God, apparently) yet I live my life, largely, according to the promised practices. (It is just a thing personality or psychology), I almost feel somehow connected to the source of pain here for everyone so I may seem awkward from time to time. That said, I have some questions...

(Hotlink to CofS site below, Mod2)

only auditing provides a precise route, deletes life’s painful experiences, There are no variables, attains a definite result when correctly ministered... These are all red flag statements to me and what I would like someone to tell me if possible is exactly what transpires in an auditing session.

 

[Idle Morgue]

Hi and Welcome: If you have a painful incident, you get to talk about it and it releases the emotions associated with it. That is the simple explanation. There are a few things associated with problems, incidents and upsets that contain painful emotions and that is: breaks in love or affinity, breaks in communication and breaks in reality. The auditor assists you in locating what it was. The auditor may take you to an earlier and similar incident. They connect and when you get to the earliest, you really feel good. So it is a form of talk therapy and the auditor will listen and acknowledge you. It is different in counseling where the therapist is not really trained typically to really listen and acknowledge and not evaluate you. So it is pretty effective. But the traps that lay ahead for you are very, very dangerous!

Auditing is one facet of Scientology, the only healing one in the beginning. It becomes more and more sinister and covertly destructive the more you do. The auditing becomes addictive and they covertly entice you by making it very very hard to get with the outrageous fees, glossy promo, and promises of super power beingnesses.

Don't believe me, LOOK. Go into an Org and look at the "clears" and OT's. They are nice, but not what the promo says or the how the organization is described in the books. It costs about $350K-$500K to go up the Bridge to total psychosis! At the end you will have lost your dreams, hopes and goals. You will become a slave for the Church of Scientology. You will be pissed!

Read the book "Inside Scientology" by Janet Reitman. Check it out at the library. It is free and it is worth reading to really understand this destructive cult.

Read everything on the internet as well. You will get the picture clearly!

Do your own research. The Scientology books sound great. The Church is not what is advertises to be. The staff are used as SLAVES. They are abused both mentally and spiritually. The top of the Organization is taking everyone's money and making the staff and public people pay and pay and pay. The leader of the Church, David Miscavaige, is a raving psychopath.

Ask for transparency! There is none. You will see pie charts with lies. Google Scientology lawsuits and sit back with some popcorn (or a barf bag) and enjoy (or not) the show. It is "smoke and mirrors" cloaked in religious front groups posing as helping to save the planet. It is a dangerous, mind controlling, destructive group that will break your spirit, your mind and your family.

Death awaits you behind their doors of promises of spiritual freedom! The choice is yours. LOOK before you leap and never give them a credit card or tell them you have any money. Do not give out your address or you will get their mail forever. Do not join staff or you will give up your life, your family, your dreams and you will be a SLAVE. You will be broke and broken. This is certain. Check out Debbie Cook! Lisa McPherson! Lawrence Brennan. Go to CLAMBAKE and read Mr. Bad's post. Keep looking, your sanity and well being are at stake!

 

[Freeminds]

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Read the book "Inside Scientology" by Janet Reitman. Check it out at the library. It is free and it is worth reading to really understand this destructive cult.
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Dunno about free, but buying a copy of Janet Reitman's book is cheaper than paying to hear and read Hubbard's lies.

If you want a free book, the one I found particularly informative and readable is 'Bare-Faced Messiah'.

If more people read that book, the world would be a better place.

 

[Infinite]

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Let me apologize in advance. My goal is not to offend anyone. I'm trying to learn here.

So as some of you may have read, I have never been a Scientologist and (Thank God, apparently) yet I live my life, largely, according to the promised practices. (It is just a thing personality or psychology), I almost feel somehow connected to the source of pain here for everyone so I may seem awkward from time to time. That said, I have some questions...

only auditing <--- WARNING: Direct Link To Scilon Site. provides a precise route, deletes life’s painful experiences, There are no variables, attains a definite result when correctly ministered... These are all red flag statements to me and what I would like someone to tell me if possible is exactly what transpires in an auditing session.

 

[Infinite]

. . . <snip> . . . These are all red flag statements to me and what I would like someone to tell me if possible is exactly what transpires in an auditing session.

There are three main things that occur in an Auditing session:

1. Information for use against the PC by the organisation is collected by the Auditor

2. Scientology language and concepts are implanted and reinforced within the PC via the hypnotic-like state induced by the procedure, and in the Auditor who believes they are actually helping the person

3. The varying sense of euphoria created during the session makes the PC more likely to sign up and pay for more Scientology​

Auditing lies at the heart of the con. Avoid.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

It's counselling with a gadget, which sometimes helps but really gets in the way most of the time. People centred counselling is amazing but the scn model is that everyone has to do the same processes in the same order regardless of who they are and what kind of life they've had. One size fits all. Nothing fits everyone, and some people take forever to get through stuff because there's just no interest.

There are very different style of auditing, there's book and bottle where you walk up and down with the auditor told to look at the bottle walk over to the bottle etc ad infinitum, it's excruciatingly boring. Then there's dianetics, set patter from the auditor, looking for incidents that caused painful shoulders etc, often going earlier similar to past lives, often based on memories of watching star wars or 50's trash sci fi TV.

Sitting on a rock looking down over a valley for a few hours would do more good.

 

[Dulloldfart]

I would like someone to tell me if possible is exactly what transpires in an auditing session.

You want some free auditing sessions? Help yourself (first link in sig). Follow the instructions, though.

Paul

 

[phénix]

But in counselling you're free, if you don't feel well about something you don't have to talk about it, you can end off...
In Scn the auditor controls you, and it's actually a crime for him to let you end off when you want, he forces you to talk about stuff, and you can't leave...

 

[Neverknew]

I appreciate your tolerance of my ignorance. Thank you all for the responses and patience. I guess I have a hard time wrapping my head around it because when it comes to psychological self matters I emphesize that it is mySELF that matters ie. I am my own auditor.

 

[Mest Lover]

Auditing leads to the next extraction of your credit card if on policy.

 

[uniquemand]

Auditing leads to the next extraction of your credit card if on policy.

That's why I'd insist on being off-policy.

 

[Neverknew]

Okay now I am really getting somewhere. I have been reading from Inside Cult castle and that seems to be the language that I understand. Psychological coersion, definity, absolutes, discouraged individuality. It really is sadif for no other reason than the loss of faith and hope for utopia.