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VaD

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Here's a simple explanation: According to Albert Einstein the definition of Insanity is doing things over and over again each time expecting a different result.

Wogs think that Einstein was smart. He wasn't. He never read Dianetics. And he was born and raised in the land of intolerance. Bottom line: Einstein was full of shit. Ergo doing things over and over again expecting a diferent result defines sanity. Wogs who don't get it tend to not see it this way, they talk about "footbullets". But there's tech to handle this. There's tech for everything. And if it doesn't work, you do it all over again.

You don't get it! :)

Our Tech works! It works 100% of the time!

"There is only one tech. And that is Standard Tech" - LRH.

To us, Scientologists, it doesn't matter what current effects are. - We KNOW we will win in the end.

- Bad publicity is much better than no publicity. (paraphrased from L. Ron Hubbard)
 

Smilla

Ordinary Human
Yep.:yes:

El Ron said somewhere that there was a fine line between "OT" and insanity. These guys think they are really "OT" and sane and the "Wogs" and SP's are the insane ones. Scn is in an accelerating open free fall...these guys think they're flying. How sane is that?:eyeroll:

Face :)

Querulant

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Querulant

"A querulant (from the Latin querulus - "complaining") is a person who obsessively feels wronged, particularly about minor causes of action. In particular the term is used for those who repeatedly petition authorities or pursue legal actions based on manifestly unfounded grounds.

These applications include in particular complaints about petty offenses.

Querulant behavior is to be distinguished from either the obsessive pursuit of justice regarding major injustices, or the proportionate, reasonable, pursuit of justice regarding minor grievances. According to Mullen and Lester, the life of the querulant individual becomes consumed by their personal pursuit of justice in relation to minor grievances.[1]

In psychiatry, the terms querulous paranoia (Kraepelin, 1904)[2][1] and litigious paranoia[3] have been used to describe a paranoid condition which manifested itself in querulant behavior. The terms had until recently largely disappeared from the psychiatric literature, largely because they fell out of fashion after being misused to stigmatise the behavior of people seeking the restitution of valid grievances.[4] In the DSM-IV-TR, "querulous paranoia" is a subtype of the persecutory type of delusional disorder.[5] It also appears in ICD-10 using its Latin name under "Other persistent delusional disorders ".[6]"

Scientology is a learned Persistent Delusional Disorder!
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Exactly - the actions are "per LRH policy".

The reason-deprived and rationally-challenged Scientologist has learned to NOT OBSERVE REALITY. Instead of looking at real events and sutuations and making a rational decision based on "reason", the over-indoctrinated Scientologist "thinks with Hubbard's data" and places THAT DATA far above all observations and thoughts that might conflict with Hubbard's claims, statements and assertions.

In Scientology there is a policy called "Seniority of Orders", and it spells out that Hubbard's instructions ALWAYS supercede everything else. What happens to mentally-handicapped Scientologists is that Hubbard comes to hold a position of seniority about EVERYTHING, including any personal observations or thoughts that might conflict with Hubbard's (and with what most other people perceive and agree with).

So, despite the fact that their "standard LRH actions" CAUSE themselves real trouble and real negative PR in many cases, they cannot see that, and instead they continually carry forward along a path of intense imaginary beliefs and substituted delusions (replacing honest observations of actual results and consequences).

As with so much of Scientology, the participant substitutes IDEAS OF REALITY in the place of actual honest observations and experiences of reality. Granted, while this is true for many people in many areas of life, and while "pure experience of reality" is probabvly impossible, this tendency to "think instead of looking" is SEVERE with Scientologists. Their ideas about reality take a major precedence over observations of reality.



Really outstanding post!

I was going to start highlighting the best parts. But....

What's the point in highlighting the whole damn post? lol

Final note. A Scientologist with 10 dictionaries, 10 word clearers and 10 pounds of clay could not possibly understand what you have written.

Because of the 10 points of KSW.
 

Krautfag

Patron Meritorious
As we all know Scientology has a wonderful history of foot bullets, and every time they do it again, it makes me wonder -> Why??? Why can't they see what they are doing to themselves?

This latest madness with Paul Haggis is clearly the work of DM, but you can't blame them all on him.

Why do otherwise intellegent people do stuff that is akin to Wiley Coyote sawing off the branch he is standing on?

Can somebody please explain it to me? I know for sure they aren't pulling in their super power consequences rundown.... at least I think they aren't. :no:

Hummmm.....

Mimsey

You know, over the years I have been asking myself the same question. And the only answer I found was: They just can't help it. As others have pointed out, they are lost in Elron tech, their perception of the world is that of an old paranoid psychodrug addict that died 25 years ago. And so they are doomed to repeat the same stupidity over and over again, following admin tech to the t.
 

Gadfly

Crusader
Really outstanding post!

I was going to start highlighting the best parts. But....

What's the point in highlighting the whole damn post? lol

Final note. A Scientologist with 10 dictionaries, 10 word clearers and 10 pounds of clay could not possibly understand what you have written.

Because of the 10 points of KSW.

Looking at this a bit more . . . .

What compounds this and makes it so much worse is that Hubbard actually teaches 1) that looking and observing are far "higher" than thinking (Know to Mystery Scale, etc.), and 2) that "fixed ideas" disable and prevent honest observation. Once again, here we have Hubbard explaining some aspects of life that make sense and are probably true, but then turning right around and USING that same data to further trap and disable the abilities of Scientology participants to "look instead of think".

It seems to me that this stems from the fact that what exist as "knowingness" and "certainty" to most Scientologists are actually types of "thinkingness" (beliefs, fixed ideas, thoughts, etc.), and THESE always trump ANY observations - they shouldn't, but with how Hubbard has it all arranged, they do. In a very real sense the various fixed ideas of Scientologists, which develop from carefully-designed Scientology indoctrination, become the yardstick against which all else is measured. And, just as Hubbard so accurately explains, FIXED IDEAS block the ability to observe because a person with fixed ideas sees with and through the fixed ideas. Hubbard also correctly explains that a person with fixed ideas cannot learn, because he or she feels that he "knows it all already". Many Scientologists exactly manifest that same phenomena of not being able to learn from "new data" or from new observations, because their "knowingness" and "certainty" are actually FIXED IDEAS.

Hubbard set thinkingness of Scientologists ABOVE observation when he set Scientology up with ideas like 1) follow policy always, 2) Ron is always right, 3) Scientology always "works", etc. Fixed ideas are actually a "barrier to study" (Study Tapes), because a person who believes him or herself to "know it all already (especially with high certainty) loses any desire to LOOK to confirm or validate the ideas. A person who already "knows" has no interest in "learning" about what he or she imagines him or herself to already "know". In this way Scientology sabotages honest observation in members - while at the same time deluding the Scientoogists with the notion that they are doing exactly the opposite. Ron WAS a brilliant scammer, con artist and trickster.

The 10 points of KSW are FIXED IDEAS, held with an undeserved certainty and illegitimate knowingness. But then, most Scientology "certainty" and "knowingness" exist as faith - where "faith" is defined as "belief in things unseen or not observed". Scientologists are "believers" and NOT "knowers". Hubbard gets members to imagine that they actually "believe nothing", and that their ideas are based on "facts" or "observations", when in actuality, the Scientology members BELIEVE a great deal about a great many things, things that are not and never will be able to be proven, verified or connected to observable reality. Scientologists "believe" that they are "high on the knowingness scale", but that is all. It is just a belief, not supported by actualities, and quite separate from observations. Like many other "faith-based religions".

Scientologists enjoy a (delusional) certainty and (unwarranted) knowingness that stem from rearranging ones mind so that belief in Hubbard's statements and claims supercedes all else. And, before anyone lies to others, in the name of Scientology, one first lies to oneself. This lying to self involves elevating Hubbard's "theories" to a level of "facts", and substituting honest observations with Hubbard's statements and claims (IDEAS) about a great many things. It's funny really. While many Scientologists encourage people to "look instead of think", they are fully guilty of doing exactly THE OPPOSITE. They THINK instead of LOOK, and they think exclusively with Hubbard's paradigm of concepts and ideas. While believing themselves to be at some "high level of knowingness", really, the truth is that they exist mired in a thick sloppy soup of significance (thinkingness).

Scientology: Thinkingness parading around as knowingness. Fixed Ideas pretending to be certainty. Random theories posing as facts.
 
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Thrak

Gold Meritorious Patron
They do it for the "OT Lulz". :yes:

Basically, they're delinquent adolescents and arrested development adults that were specially selected for OSA due to their “ability” and “willingness” to do anything El Ron or DM says. They get to spend all their days and get approval for playing pretend, pulling malicious pranks and being a vandal. What juvenile wouldn’t love that? :coolwink:

Face :)

That's what I was thinking when I saw some of the people who show up at Marty's place and on other videos. It seems they have no sense of shame, or embarrassment on carrying out utterly ridiculous assignments. It's probably like "we'll ask Betty, she'll do anything".
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Looking at this a bit more . . . .

What compounds this and makes it so much worse is that Hubbard actually teaches 1) that looking and observing are far "higher" than thinking (Know to Mystery Scale, etc.), and 2) that "fixed ideas" disable and prevent honest observation. Once again, here we have Hubbard explaining some aspects of life that make sense and are probably true, but then turning right around and USING that same data to further trap and disable the abilities of Scientology participants to "look instead of think".

It seems to me that this stems from the fact that what exist as "knowingness" and "certainty" to most Scientologists are actually types of "thinkingness" (beliefs, fixed ideas, thoughts, etc.), and THESE always trump ANY observations. In a very real sense the various fixed ideas of Scientologists, which develop from carefully-designed Scientology indoctrination, become the yardstick against which all else is measured. And, just as Hubbard so accurately explains, FIXED IDEAS block the ability to observe because a person with fixed ideas sees with and through the fixed ideas". Hubbard also correctly explains that a person with fixed ideas cannot learn, because he or she feels that he "knows it all already". Many Scientologists exactly manifest that same phenomena of not being able to learn from "new data" or from new observations, because their "knowingness" and "certainty" are actually FIXED IDEAS.

Hubbard set thinkingness of Scientologists ABOVE observation when he set Scientology up with ideas like 1) follow policy always, 2) Ron is always right, 3) Scientology always "works", etc. Fixed ideas are actually a "barrier to study", because a person who believes him or herself to "know it all already (especially with high certainty) loses any desire to LOOK to confirm or validate the ideas. A person who already "knows" has no interest in "learning" about what he or she imagines him or herself to already "know". In this way Scientology sabotages honest observation in members.

The 10 points of KSW are FIXED IDEAS, held with an undeserved certainty and illegitimate knowingness. But then, most Scientology "certainty" and "knowingness" exist as faith - where "faith" is defined as "belief in things unseen or not observed". Scientologists are "believers" and NOT "knowers".

Scientologists enjoy a (delusional) certainty and (unwarranted) knowingness that stem from rearranging ones mind so that belief in Hubbard's statements and claims supercedes all else. And, before anyone lies to others, in the name of Scientology, one first lies to oneself. This lying to self involves elevating Hubbard's "theories" to a level of "facts", and substituting honest observations with Hubbard's statements and claims (IDEAS) about a great many things. It's funny really. While many Scientologists encourage people to "look instead of think", they are fully guilty of doing exactly THAT. While believing themselves to be at some "high level of knowingness", really, the truth is that they exist mired in a thick sloppy soup of significance (thinkingness).

Scientology: Thinkingness parading around as knowingness. Fixed Ideas pretending to be certainty. Random theories posing as facts.


Another terrific eye-opening post on the debilitating mind control games of Scn.

This and your previous post should be incorporated into a KSW SERIES (Keeping Sanity Working)

RON HUBBARD
Whatever is real for you is real.


You -pronoun. 1. The person being addressed 2. The person being addressed, minus their reactive mind and evil purposes. 3. The Ideal Person 4. L. Ron Hubbard, the perfected beingness that one can attain thru Scientology.

 

HelluvaHoax!

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That's what I was thinking when I saw some of the people who show up at Marty's place and on other videos. It seems they have no sense of shame, or embarrassment on carrying out utterly ridiculous assignments. It's probably like "we'll ask Betty, she'll do anything".



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

My favorite line of the week! Classic!


COB
...and I don't care if the cocksucker has to dive in dumpsters
and steal and get arrested and go jail. Just get it done!

OSA EXEC
Yes sir! We have just the person for the job!

-------ONE HOUR LATER-----------

OSA EXEC (on phone)
So....of all the OT's VIII's in the world, COB
only trusts you with this world-saving VIP mission.

OT VIII (on phone)
Wow, I have been waiting for this call my whole life.
It totally validates my knowingness that I am total cause.
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
Also, Anonymous has a secret agent in the heart of the beast . . .

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apocalyptic

Patron with Honors
Why do otherwise intellegent people do stuff that is akin to Wiley Coyote sawing off the branch he is standing on?

Can somebody please explain it to me?

Mimsey

Yes. Yes we can Mims. Remembering however, the old adage: The Truth Will Set You Free, But First It Will Piss You Off.

'Otherwise intelligent people'...do not join Scientology Mims. They observe it, or they ignore it. But they do not join it. Thus they do not 'become' the fool's they appear to become, they merely 'reveal' the fools they were in the first place.

Tough stuff. Hard pill to swallow. Especially for Ex-s. Dog shit reality, nonetheless.

We know. Been there, done that.

Apocalyptic
 

Gadfly

Crusader
Another terrific eye-opening post on the debilitating mind control games of Scn.

This and your previous post should be incorporated into a KSW SERIES (Keeping Sanity Working)

RON HUBBARD
Whatever is real for you is real.


You -pronoun. 1. The person being addressed 2. The person being addressed, minus their reactive mind and evil purposes. 3. The Ideal Person 4. L. Ron Hubbard, the perfected beingness that one can attain thru Scientology.


Yeah, Ron is right when he says that most people function along the lines of "what is real for you is real" (despite all facts and evidence to the contrary). That is true for Muslim fanatics. It was true for 15th century priests of the Spanish Inquisition. It was true for the leaders of Nazi Germany. It is true for the proponents of modern capitalism (central bankers). It is true for many UFO cultist types. The list of people and groups who choose to agree with nonsense is endless, and "what is real for someone" often has little or nothing to do with "truth" or "actuality". That is the case with a great deal of Scientology ideas and beliefs.

The thing Hubbard never tells you is that people can and do have all sorts of stupidity and idiocy "be real". And, with Scientology, it is just another bundle of stupidity that has been "accepted as real" by the sincere & dedicated believers. Of course, Hubbard doesn't clue anyone into THAT fact.

Scientology is so amazing because Hubbard actually spells it out quite clearly. He delineates a great many things quite well. And then, he uses these various tidbits directly ON THE SCIENTOLOGY MEMBERS to manipulate and trap them. MANY examples of that can be provided.

He explains all about fixed ideas, he does it quite well actually, and then he fills the minds of Scientologists with a great many fixed ideas! And, amazingly these sincere devotees of Scientology are usually quite convinced that they are doing otherwise. They don't and cannot recognize that these various strong beliefs and heavy fixed ideas simply PARADE AROUND and misrepresent themselves as the contrived certainty and ersatz knowingness that the Scientology members imagine themselves to enjoy. Ah, the joy of delusion!
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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Yeah, Ron is right when he says that most people function along the lines of "what is real for you is real" (despite all facts and evidence to the contrary). That is true for Muslim fanatics. It was true for 15th century priests of the Spanish Inquisition. It was true for the leaders of Nazi Germany. It is true for the proponents of modern capitalism (central bankers). It is true for many UFO cultist types.

The thing Hubbard never tells you is that people can and do have all sorts of stupidity and idiocy "be real". And, with Scientology, it is just another bundle of stupidity that has been "accepted as real" by the sincere & dedicated believers. Of course, Hubbard doesn't clue anyone into THAT fact.

Scientology is so amazing because Hubbard actually spells it out quite clearly. He delineates a great many things quite well. And then, he uses these various tidbits directly ON THE SCIENTOLOGY MEMBERS to manipulate and trap them. MANY examples of that can be provided.

He explains all about fixed ideas, he does it quite well actually, and then he fills the minds of Scientologists with a great many fixed ideas! And, amazingly these sincere devotees of Scientology are usually quite convinced that they are doing otherwise.


MAA
It appears that you have quite a lot of big wholetrack
overts on your O/W writeup here Billy. How do you
plan to make up the damage?

BILLY BLOWDOWN
What is really real to me is that my amends project
is to Clear this planet within the next 5 years.

MAA
Umm..are you certain about that?

BILLY BLOWDOWN
Yes, totally certain.

MAA
Are you sure you shouldn't be applying Ron's
datum on gradients? That's a big amends project.

BILLY BLOWDOWN
No worries. I'll be using tone 40 postulates.

MAA
Oh! Well, that's different. You had me
worried there for a second.
 
It occurs to me, perhaps this (footbulletry) is something we are hard wired to do, or is in our DNA.

What I mean is this - the soldier who charges the enemy line, thinking he won't get shot, the chicken accepting the feed the farmer is giving her, the industrialist moving his factories over seas thinking of his profits, the cult leader publishing balderdashery to snub his nose at a respected publishing firm, they're all non survival actions, yet they seem to make sense from the viewpoint of the doer.

Why else would one do it? The LULZ? The adrenaline rush? Bragging rights? Because life is really, on some level, only a game we play to entertain ourselves through out eternity?

Makes me wonder - am I all wet here?

Mimsey
 

Gadfly

Crusader
It occurs to me, perhaps this (footbulletry) is something we are hard wired to do, or is in our DNA.

What I mean is this - the soldier who charges the enemy line, thinking he won't get shot, the chicken accepting the feed the farmer is giving her, the industrialist moving his factories over seas thinking of his profits, the cult leader publishing balderdashery to snub his nose at a respected publishing firm, they're all non survival actions, yet they seem to make sense from the viewpoint of the doer.

Why else would one do it? The LULZ? The adrenaline rush? Bragging rights? Because life is really, on some level, only a game we play to entertain ourselves through out eternity?

Makes me wonder - am I all wet here?

Mimsey

Even if life is a game we "play for all eternity", it does NOT mean that we have to "shoot ourselves in the feet" every step along the way (like is so typical of the Church of Scientology). One can actually behave honestly, opening and decently, and thus NOT shoot oneself in the feet! :confused2:

It seems an intelligent, aware and compassionate person can treat others in a way that does NOT turn everbody else into enemies and antagonists. I suppose to many people "playing a game" implies competition with foes and opponents. Maybe Man will evolve a bit and someday no longer need to play out THAT stupid behavior.

But that sort of evolution will NEVER come from any part of Scientology since creating enemies and foes IS HARDWIRED into THEIR SYSTEM.
 

Moosejewels

Patron Meritorious
It crossed my mind that Davy-boy was doing it deliberately.
If the church collapses he gets to spend the rest of his life doing whatever he likes with bundles of cash without having to pretend he believes in anything or hang around with people who believe in it.

Ok, I'm pulling at straws, but it's hard to believe anyone can be that flippin' stupid without some kind of logical plan/explanation.
Oh wai--- its Scientology.
Never mind.

This is so damned logical and to the point.

By jo, I think you've got it ! :thumbsup::coolwink::coolwink::coolwink:
 
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