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Friendship is a great substitute for scientlogy

He-man

Hero extraordinary
I am so happy that I am crying, I just told a friend who I really am. He couldn´t stop laughing about it! And he embraced the truth, forgiving me for the web I had spun about my past.

I wish... if everything could be simple in life I would be a happy man.

I wish I could write more on the subject but I lack words.
 

pollywannacracker

Patron Meritorious
He-Man,

That is what true friendship is all about.

We all get derailed from time to time. But true friendship overlooks that. It's one and only goal is to help stabilize you so that you can reach ever higher in order to find yourself and potentially better yourself.

And that in turn betters your true friendship.

Self realization can be a very good thing.

:bighug: -PWC
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
As Man is basically social, family and friends are the ultimate therapeutic agents.

I had a life long friend die on me Friday. And then I had dozens of friends come over all weekend and take all the pain away. Well almost all the pain: you don't want to give up everything.

Yes. Family and True Friendship, which is ultimately impossible in Scientology, beats Scientology any day.

This is one of the most important things I've learned after being in Scientology.

Congratulations to you, He-Man.

We're gonna make it.
 

He-man

Hero extraordinary
Thank you guys. For me, this is big. I only ever told one of my friends(my bestest best friend) my old story, my family background and being in the sea org. Another friend accidentaly found out because I forgot to pause our skype conversation while I was watching a vid on scientology(Lol, are you listening to that xeenuu thing?), he was supposed tobe in the kitchen!
And now I told another long time friend.

I always lied about what I did in Copenhagen that time when I was in the sea org. Could never bear them knowing my darkest secrets. And once you start lying its hard to turn back...

Well now I did and boy am I happy I did.
 

byte301

Crusader
And your friends still love you! What a concept...unconditional love. You sure can't get that in a cult.

Congratulations He-Man! You came out of the cult closet and doesn't it feel good! :D
 

Lynn Fountain Campbell

Silver Meritorious Patron
I am so happy that I am crying, I just told a friend who I really am. He couldn´t stop laughing about it! And he embraced the truth, forgiving me for the web I had spun about my past.

I wish... if everything could be simple in life I would be a happy man.

I wish I could write more on the subject but I lack words.

Good friends are good. :) Cof$ can't take those away from you. It boggles my mind why they'd even want to. But they do.

Lynn
 

Smilla

Ordinary Human
I am so happy that I am crying, I just told a friend who I really am. He couldn´t stop laughing about it! And he embraced the truth, forgiving me for the web I had spun about my past.

I wish... if everything could be simple in life I would be a happy man.

I wish I could write more on the subject but I lack words.

Good for you :thumbsup:
 

Good twin

Floater
He didn't write a report on you? He didn't assign you lower conditions? He didn't demand that you make a contribution to his pet project?

Wow. That's cool! :thumbsup:
 

Doom

Lurking.
Great thread He-man and yes Im with you on the friendship thing, when I came out I found out who my real friends were (they stuck around). I lost alot when I came out, money, job, even the roof over my head but I didnt lose my real friends and gained new ones. I wouldnt go back and change it now it was for the best. Good luck with your friends (sounds like your on the right track).:thumbsup:
 

Miss Pert

Silver Meritorious Patron
Thanks for sharing this with us He-Man, it's a great thing to know you have true friends, I cried when I realised that too.
 

GreyWolf

Gold Meritorious Patron
Just the title alone says it all. And so true. I was thinking about that the other day. That I have friends now that I cann tell anything and not worry about a KR or a comm-ev.
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
As Man is basically social, family and friends are the ultimate therapeutic agents.

I had a life long friend die on me Friday. And then I had dozens of friends come over all weekend and take all the pain away. Well almost all the pain: you don't want to give up everything.

Yes. Family and True Friendship, which is ultimately impossible in Scientology, beats Scientology any day.

This is one of the most important things I've learned after being in Scientology.

Congratulations to you, He-Man.

We're gonna make it.

I am sorry to hear about your friend Alanzo.

You are so right (re family and true friendship) ... it is completely impossible in scientology, there can never be total trust and there is too much role playing and BS going on.

Such a waste of time.

Nice thread He-Man.

:)
 

SuperPowers

Patron with Honors
Loneliness and friendship

I'm reading books nowadays, which gives a lot of pleasure. It makes me think. I was about to start a new thread, but found this one and it might fit here.



Even if we may need to be alone at times, being in the company of friends and people is extremely important, maybe even genetically imprinted.

There is loneliness which can lead to a depression and an empty void which can cause a lot of pain. To socialize with people can be the most rewarding thing when it works and can be a hell when it goes wrong.

When I look back on my life as a committed Scientologist I recognize this urge for this basic human need. Here were people who listened and who were interested, in me. Suddenly I had many new friends!

But, by and by, I found out that the friendship was often of a conditional sort, not all of it of course since there were good people too. But it turned out that as long as I agreed on suggestions, plans, scheduling and so on everything was fine, but I became increasingly disturbed by the "hidden agenda" behind the smiles and friendliness that met me if I gave away my time, effort and money (to the "survival of mankind" or whatever).

At times I felt exploited or squeezed into making decisions, sometimes about things that I could not overview or which simply made me feel discomfort in different ways.

There is an experience of pain when "friends" turn around and show you a bad attitude because you want to have it your own way. That is a cunning way of exploiting the old basic human need to sell you all kinds of things.

Friends who accept you as you are are much more valuable than those "big thetans with their big plans", which they made you an part of their palns whether you like it or not.

So the simple lesson is: hold on to your friends, the true ones.

You are very important to each other.
 
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