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CornPie

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Palin and Scientology

In the second half hour, of this Mar-2009 radio talk show, host G. Gordon Liddy interviews Anonymous, who states that (Fox News talk show host (4PM-ET)) known scientologist Greta VanSusterin's scn attorney husband John P. Cole, befriended 2008 GOP candidates John McCain and his running mate, Alaska Governor Sara Palin, for Pres-and-VP of the US.

During the 2008 US presidential election I casually watched numerous TV interviews here in the US, some of which were of Governor Palin and her husband. I got the creeps on a handful of occasions, because from my perspective, both of them had obviously been involved with scn. I based my observation mostly on comments that Governor Palin made during the election. And backed up by the limited number of interviews that Mr. Palin gave, but I found his comments to be more tainted by an exposure to scn. These interviews were made, on various TV networks. My instincts that the Palins were scn's, were based on how they made the comments, and how they seemed to be trying to conceal their current-or-former scn association. But I never mentioned it to anyone at the time.

As I write this, it is March-2009, it's been months since the election, so I don't remember any specific examples, but it was creepy to me at that time. Note that during the fall-2008 US presidential election, I had been out of scn for 30 years, and it had been at least 10 years since I had visited any pro-or-con scn web sites, during which time I found no web sites as useful and "un-noisy" as ESMB.com, ClamBake and others. So my mind was as unaffected with scn as I could have imagined. Still though; my ability to "pick up on" things, such as the Palins blowing their scn cover, remained with me, even though I spent only 1 year in scn, after which I've been gone for 30 years.

To make a long story short, it's obvious to me that Governor and Mr. Palin are-or-were scns. And that this fact was successfully concealed by anyone who knew about it in the media or otherwise. Because I never heard any mention of it, from any source, only my instincts, until months after the election, at the time I became aware of this March-2009 G. Gordon Liddy interview with Anonymous. (Keep your ears tuned for a scn black PR campaign against Liddy, with scn's unleashing of their army of Private Investigators (PI's) to attack his credibility.) During the election, Palin even touted her belief in Christianity, and how that faith inspired her to not abort her son Trig, who's "bad luck" she knew about before his birth, HE had Down Syndrome. However, the omision of her association with scientology was a coverup, a huge LIE. How many of those Christians who voted for a ticket with pro-life Palin on it, would have jumped ship if her association with scn had been revealed?

After all, the picture of (then) Senator Obama wearing Muslim attire during his adolescent years appeared on US TV's numerous times during the election, (incidentally this picture began appearing only "after" he sealed up the race with Hillary Clinton in the Democratic nomination, but that's another story). Why then, wasn't Palin's association with scientology revealed, just as Obama's Muslim association had been?

The scariest part to me is; if the McCain-Palin ticket had been successful, the US would have been a "heartbeat away" from a scientologist as president, without voters ever having known "what" they voted for.

Before previous presidents were elected, Americans knew that Bush 1 had formerly been the director of the CIA, that Bill Clinton went to Yale and Oxford, that Bush 2, was the son of a CIA man, and that he jerked off in a coffin at Yale during his initiation into Skull and Bones. But nobody in the general population had any clue that Palin was a scientologist. You can not trust the media to inform us of such, they're manipulated, bought and paid for. Afraid to speak out against scn.

On another note, I remember watching one particular interview on TV, which took place when Greta VanSusterin visited Alaska. Her interview was with a man that was on Mr. Palin's championship snowmobile racing team. Greta casually asked the guy, "do you know Gov. Palin." The guy put on his "deer in the headlights" act and responded, "huh?" His act didn't work though, Greta slightly more firmly repeated, "Do you know Governor Palin?" From my perspective the guy was squirming when he confirmed, "yeah he sort of knew her." For crying out loud, she was the governor of the state, the wife of his snowmobiling friend, why did she have to ask him twice. (One sugar cookie goes to anyone who posts a link to a video of this interview.) I immediately thought to myself, "nookie-nookie boom-boom." And if that dirty deed ever took place, and if the McCain-Palin ticket had been elected, and if McCain ever bit the big one, as he looks ready to do any day now, there would be a scientologist in the White House. And scientology would have all the dirt on President Palin; because she'd have dutifully written up all of her overts and withholds (O/W's), her sins against scn, along with any civil and moral laws she's ever violated, in her own handwriting, with her signature on them. Just ripe for the blackmail, for all her life.

I wonder if those "girl friends" of Governor Palin were into scn, what they knew about it. Who else knew about it, WHEN did they know, and WHY didn't the voting public know about the two Palins involvement with scn, "before" the election? Given that Palin ran for national office, and since she may run again, as an American, where the 2nd Amendment is so important (freedom of the press), I think it's my business to know if Palin has-or-had an association with scn. And I can't help but wonder; what other business did scn's Greta VanSusterin and her old man John P. Cole conduct, while they were up in Alaska, during the US election.

Don't take my "educated guess" for it. Why doesn't somebody ask both Governor and Mr. Palin, "are you now, or have you ever been associated with scientology?"

Why doesn't somebody ask known scientologist Greta VanSusterin, "when you interviewed Governor and Mr. Palin in Alaska, did you know of their current-or-former association with scientology, and if so why did you not reveal that on the world?" My "educated guess" is that they all knew what a ruckus it would cause, and that any mention of scientology would negatively impact the election, that they all conspired in the same cover-up, in the same LIE.

You know what they say in the CIA, "The truth will set you free."

PS: If I get shot twice in the head, it wasn't suicide.
 
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Zinjifar

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Unlikely. They do belong to a relatively small and fundemental christian church. Ask UQ and he'll tell you it's a cult.

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The Scientology heavy hitters like John Coale are always trying to get in good with up and coming people who they think may help the Church later on. And during the campaign, somebody, somewhere, would have probably uncovered the story.
It did seem to me that the some of the local Scientologists I spoke to about the campaign were in love with Sarah Palin, even though they supported Ron Paul. And I did get the sense that the Church was putting out that she was the preferrable candidate. The reason I say this is that when you talk to people they respond with the exact verbatim answer. That's why I think they may have been "briefed" about her.
But I didn't see anything in her campaigning and actions that implied she might be a Scientologists nor did I see anything that was inconsistent with her conservative (almost cultish) religious views.

The Anabpatist Jacques
 

CornPie

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...somebody, somewhere, would have probably uncovered the story...
...I didn't see anything in her campaigning and actions that implied [Palin] might be a Scientologist...
Uncovering the story is one thing, saying something loud enough for the world to hear about it is another.

If it would have been only 1 or 2 slip-ups I wouldn't have thought much about it. But during the news coverage of the 2008 presidential election, I saw a handful of subtle slip-ups in TV interviews that revealed Palin's scientology association, and after a while they jumped out at me. Yet I thought, surely the media would report such a thing. Wrong! Incidentally, these TV interviews had nothing to do with Liddy, however it wasn't until the March-2009 Liddy-Anonymous radio interview that my memory was jarred. I wish I would have TIVO'd those TV interviews, but (as originally posted by DCAnon) here's a link to the radio interview, once again the Anonymous interviewee's mention of it is early in the 2nd half hour: http://feeds.radioamerica.org/podcast/GGL/audio/Liddy_mon_16-03-09_H3.mp3 The Palins have an association with scientology, I'd make book on it.
 
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byte301

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The anon doing the interview was MoarXenu. He did an excellent job. One of the best interviews I've heard.
 

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Personally, I do not believe that Palin or her husband are Scientologists but rather fundamentalist christians as has been reported. Right after the election when Van Susteren travelled to Alaska to interview the Palin's, I posted several comments on the Alaskan Daily News (ADN) pointing out the fact (ironly) of this marriage between the Palin's and VanSusteren. All of these comments were flagged as "abusive" indicating that someone (either from the governor's office or the Co$) was disturbed by the connection.
 
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CornPie

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A) ...I do not believe that Palin or her husband are Scientologists...
B) ...after the election when Van Susteren travelled to Alaska to interview the Palin's...
A) There is no doubt in my mind that both Palin's have-or-had a significant exposure to the CoS. It would have been appropriate, perhaps mandatory, if they had just admitted this in passing, without having to be asked, DURING the 2008 US election, saying they had moved on. After all, Governor Palin was running for the 2nd highest office in the US. But since they did not come clean, I must assume they have NOT moved on, that they are still sci'lons, and I will never trust them. It's tough enough to trust a former sci'lon in the first place, but impossible to trust them if they won't come clean about it. And also; so what if the Palins were in another Christian church during the election and now, it would only be a facade intended to dupe Christians into voting for her.

B) Greta VanSusterin, a known scientologist reporter for Fox News, definitely visited Alaska, DURING the 2008 US presidential election, doing on-camera interviews with Governor and Mr. Palin, and others, which aired on Fox News. Months after the election, during the March-2009 Liddy interview, Anonymous said that Greta's scientologist attorney husband, John P. Cole, was also there DURING the election, hanging out with Mr. Palin. It's not much of a stretch to conclude that VanSusterin and Cole went to Alaska for more than the interviews, skiing, and warm friendship with the Palins.

My conclusion is that these were covert efforts by the CoS to get a scientologist worm holding the office of vice-president of the US, sucking in the vote of the Christian Right, without any attention in the media. And the whole thing stinks.
 
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DCAnon

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I have no doubt in my mind that Palin and family are fundamentalist Christians. :no: But it does seem plausible that Scientology tried to create a relationship to benefit their political standing. I mean, they've got lobbying firms too. We have all their financial information on how much they've spent lobbying in DC over the past few years.
 

skydog

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A) There is no doubt in my mind that both Palin's had a significant exposure to the CoS. It would have been appropriate, perhaps mandatory, if they had just admitted this in passing, without having to be asked, DURING the election, saying they had moved on. After all, Governor Palin was running for the 2nd highest office in the US. But since they did not come clean, I must assume they have NOT moved on, that they are still sci'lons, and I will never trust them. It's tough enough to trust a former sci'lon in the first place, but impossible to trust them if they won't come clean about it. And also; so what if the Palins are in another Christian church now, it would only be a facade intended to dupe Christians into voting for her.

B) Greta VanSusterin, a known sci'lon, definitely visited Alaska, DURING the 2008 US presidential election, and interviewed both Palins, and others, for Fox News. Months after the election, during the March-2009 Liddy interview, Anonymous said Greta's sci'lon attorney husband, John P. Cole, was also there DURING the election, hanging out with Mr. Palin. It's not much of a stretch to conclude that Greta and John went to Alaska for more than the interviews, skiing, and warm friendship with the Palins. This was an effort by the CoS to get a sci'lon worm inside the White House, without any attention in the media.

My experience with fundamental christians is that they are at least, if not more blinded by their faith than Scientologists. I know of several ex's who have converted to such and the idea that SP and Tard may be among those is not out of the question. However, those ex's who have converted to christianity have been pretty uniform in their belief that the practice of Scientology is Satanism in its purest form. Likewise, the Co$, while claiming religious tolerance, are anything but tolerant.

My posts on the ADN were relatively benign, i.e. pointing out the religious beliefs of the Palins and VanSusteren and pointing out the irony or this relationship. The vast majority of comments about Palin at that time were highly critical of her and many were far more offensive than the comments I was making (IMHO). Because only those comments dealing with VanSusteren were flagged, I assumed it was local Scientologists (Anchorage has a Scientology mission) that were flagging these posts and never considered the possibility you present.

I am not saying you are wrong in your conclusion that Sarah and Tard have been exposed to Scientology. I would just like to see more conclusive evidence. There are many people who really don't know too much about the current controversy over the Co$ and most of the morons that watch Fox news are not aware of VanSusteren's involvement with the church.

I did start a thread on this back then and am reluctantly providing a link. I apologize if anyone finds it too offensive. http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=8563
 

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DCAnon said A) ...it does [not] seem plausible that Scientology tried to create a relationship to benefit their political standing...

DDAnon said B) ...We have all their financial information on how much they've spent lobbying in DC over the past few years...

A) Oh Puhlease, the CoS would do anything to get inside the White House.

B) You wouldn't expect the CoS (or the CIA) to abide by lobbiest rules would you? They'd use cash, blackmail (O/W), black PR, PI's, whatever it took.

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skydog said C) ...fundamental christians...more blinded by their faith than Scientologists...

skydog said D) ...like to see more conclusive evidence [of Gov & Mr. Palin are scy'lons]...

C) I'm NOT talking about the "faith" of individual Christians or syl'ons. I AM talking about the CoS, and they'd do anything to manipulate their influence inside the White House.

D) I have no proof at this time, only my amazing perception, perhaps somebody will provide hard proof, and when they do, I'm going to rub your nose into it. :)

PS: Skydog, the thread you linked to was SNL hilarious.
 
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DCAnon

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You find proof and I will get it out to every inch of Washington. That's a promise!
 

CornPie

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You find proof and I will get it out to every inch of Washington. That's a promise!
I'm rewriting this after an initial post. Please specify what you'd like proof for:

1) that Governor and Mr. Pailan were scientologists, or had at one time been indoctrinated with scientology, on or before the time she ran for Vice President in the US 2008 elections.

2) that the CoS tried to create a relationship to benefit their political standing, in getting into the White House.

3) that the CoS violated lobbying laws, in an attempt to get into the White House.

#1 is a sure thing in my opinion, and would be easier to prove with the right people talking. That this story wasn't reported, BEFORE the election, makes it a huge unacceptable cover-up.

#2 and #3 would be impossible for people (lacking police access to information) to prove beyond any conspiracy theory, but based on what I know about the CoS, I concluded that these issues would, "not surprise me", my statement is based on their lies to myself and to so many others, over so many years.
 
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