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Gary Null is the Kent Hovind of Alternative Medicine
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Ted
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Looks like Black PR.
Ditto.
Gary Null looks to be in a pretty healthy physical state. I dunno. Just saying.
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AnonKat
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Okay he sells combinations of vitamines that can be dangerous. One he has licened out to a company , he took it himself and almost died. Ironicly now he is suing the same company.
Maybe you do not know but too. much of vitamins can be damaging or lethal too
That is alsoo why I find Scientologists stuffing themselfs with overdoses vitamins not so wise.
This man has a bogus background.
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Little David
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From Salon:
Your vitamins are lying to you: Why Big Herba is out of control
MONDAY, FEB 16, 2015 06:00 AM PST
We often hear about the evils of Big Pharma, but it's not the only medicine industry putting your health at risk LYNN STUART PARRAMORE, ALTERNET
Big Herba is big business, and when profit is the motive, let the buyer beware.
We often hear about the evils of Big Pharma, and there’s plenty to be concerned about there. But some who promote “alternatives” — the manufacturers, distributors and sellers of supplements, aka Big Herba —take advantage of regulatory loopholes, public distrust of the medical realm, and consumer confusion to push pills and potions that may do absolutely nothing for your health, or worse.
Last week, the New York attorney general’s office told GNC, Target, Walgreens and Walmart to pull several store-brand supplements when most of them were found to contain things other than what their labels advertised, including allergens like wheat that are potentially dangerous to some consumers. At all the stores investigated, the St. John’s Wort contained absolutely no St. John’s Wort. Likewise, the Gingko Biloba had no Gingko Biloba. Instead, many of the products contained nothing but cheap fillers, including a common houseplant called dracaena.
Alternative health guru Gary Null, who has his own product line, is known for talking up supplements as the answer to Big Pharma— and yet he managed to poison himself with his own products. Not exactly reassuring.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/16/your_vitamins_are_dangerous_how_big_herba_is_lying_to_you_partner/
It is noteworthy that Null uses the CCHR as a source and also has accepted an award from the organization which he allows the CCHR to use on their website. This relationship should be included into the article because it shows an affiliation with this controversial organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:G...sychiatry_and_Null.27s_connection_to_the_CCHR
Your vitamins are lying to you: Why Big Herba is out of control
MONDAY, FEB 16, 2015 06:00 AM PST
We often hear about the evils of Big Pharma, but it's not the only medicine industry putting your health at risk LYNN STUART PARRAMORE, ALTERNET
Big Herba is big business, and when profit is the motive, let the buyer beware.
We often hear about the evils of Big Pharma, and there’s plenty to be concerned about there. But some who promote “alternatives” — the manufacturers, distributors and sellers of supplements, aka Big Herba —take advantage of regulatory loopholes, public distrust of the medical realm, and consumer confusion to push pills and potions that may do absolutely nothing for your health, or worse.
Last week, the New York attorney general’s office told GNC, Target, Walgreens and Walmart to pull several store-brand supplements when most of them were found to contain things other than what their labels advertised, including allergens like wheat that are potentially dangerous to some consumers. At all the stores investigated, the St. John’s Wort contained absolutely no St. John’s Wort. Likewise, the Gingko Biloba had no Gingko Biloba. Instead, many of the products contained nothing but cheap fillers, including a common houseplant called dracaena.
Alternative health guru Gary Null, who has his own product line, is known for talking up supplements as the answer to Big Pharma— and yet he managed to poison himself with his own products. Not exactly reassuring.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/16/your_vitamins_are_dangerous_how_big_herba_is_lying_to_you_partner/
It is noteworthy that Null uses the CCHR as a source and also has accepted an award from the organization which he allows the CCHR to use on their website. This relationship should be included into the article because it shows an affiliation with this controversial organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:G...sychiatry_and_Null.27s_connection_to_the_CCHR
Smurf
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Gary Null is a quack that uses CCHR to further his own agenda. CCHR praises him for his stand against prescribing anti-depressants to children & teens & produced the movie which is noted on CCHR's website.
[video=youtube;26e5PqrCePk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk[/video]
Null is a notorious AIDS/HIV denier. There was an extensive Wikipedia page on Null, which he & his followers aggressively challenged & tried to have criticisms of him removed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gary_Null/Archives/2008/December
Little David
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Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS film by Gary Null
[video=youtube;FoxCtYBXNpc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FoxCtYBXNpc[/video]
Quack record Bestselling health and fitness guru Gary Null weighs in on AIDS. Almost all of what he says is useless, dangerous and just plain wrong. PETER KURTH
Before I get down to discussing Gary Null, Ph.D., and his massive, irresponsible and nearly unreadable book, “AIDS: A Second Opinion,” I need to confess my bias. I’ve been infected with HIV for a long time — since 1983, by my own calculation. For 13 years, since I first discovered my sero status, I’ve been taking anti-retroviral medications, the so-called AIDS cocktail, in various strengths and combinations. I haven’t been off the pills in all that time. Apart from neuropathy in my hands and feet, I’m in good health, with no detectable virus and T-cells in the normal range — in other words, my immune system is functioning as it should.
http://www.salon.com/2002/05/21/null/
Wal-mart, Target and others under fire for selling bogus supplements
The New York Attorney General has ordered WalMart (WMT), GNC (GNC), Target (TGT) and Walgreens (WBA) to stop selling certain herbal supplements that it says don't contain the herbal ingredient on the label, or contain only a small amount of it.
The demands came in cease and desist letters addressed to company executives that were dated Monday. The New York Times first reported the letters.
The letters included statements like: "No St. John's Wort DNA was identified." "No plant genetic material of any sort was identified in the product labeled Echinacea." And some contained allergens like wheat that were not properly labeled.
The tests were performed on samples of gingko biloba, St. John's Wort, ginseng, garlic, echinacea and saw palmetto supplements bought from stores in New York. Purchases were made from several stores and samples from each bottle were tested multiple times, according to the attorney general.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/03/news/herbal-supplements-walmart-target/
[video=youtube;FoxCtYBXNpc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FoxCtYBXNpc[/video]
Quack record Bestselling health and fitness guru Gary Null weighs in on AIDS. Almost all of what he says is useless, dangerous and just plain wrong. PETER KURTH
Before I get down to discussing Gary Null, Ph.D., and his massive, irresponsible and nearly unreadable book, “AIDS: A Second Opinion,” I need to confess my bias. I’ve been infected with HIV for a long time — since 1983, by my own calculation. For 13 years, since I first discovered my sero status, I’ve been taking anti-retroviral medications, the so-called AIDS cocktail, in various strengths and combinations. I haven’t been off the pills in all that time. Apart from neuropathy in my hands and feet, I’m in good health, with no detectable virus and T-cells in the normal range — in other words, my immune system is functioning as it should.
http://www.salon.com/2002/05/21/null/
Wal-mart, Target and others under fire for selling bogus supplements
The New York Attorney General has ordered WalMart (WMT), GNC (GNC), Target (TGT) and Walgreens (WBA) to stop selling certain herbal supplements that it says don't contain the herbal ingredient on the label, or contain only a small amount of it.
The demands came in cease and desist letters addressed to company executives that were dated Monday. The New York Times first reported the letters.
The letters included statements like: "No St. John's Wort DNA was identified." "No plant genetic material of any sort was identified in the product labeled Echinacea." And some contained allergens like wheat that were not properly labeled.
The tests were performed on samples of gingko biloba, St. John's Wort, ginseng, garlic, echinacea and saw palmetto supplements bought from stores in New York. Purchases were made from several stores and samples from each bottle were tested multiple times, according to the attorney general.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/03/news/herbal-supplements-walmart-target/
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Type4_PTS
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The product that Gary Null formulated had 1000 units of Vit D (per serving) which would not have been toxic to him or anyone else.
The manufacturer that produced the product added 1 million units to a serving instead of 1000! THAT is what poisoned Null and some others, it wasn't the formulation.
Udarnik
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Yes.
But.
His company didn't verify the actual content of his products as an added QC (which regulated industries like Big Pharma ARE required to do when importing products manufactured overseas). Why didn't he do that? Because he assumed natural = beneficial.
Type4_PTS
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I think that that criticism of his company IS fair, especially when he's been around as long as he has.
I'm wondering though if there's more to this situation than human error. For a company to add 1,000,000 units of Vit D to one serving of a product should have warranted a police investigation imo. (I'm not familiar with the case so I don't know if that was actually done or not
And even if it was simply human error, isn't there some kind of line one can cross where it becomes criminal negligence?
Udarnik
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Type4_PTS
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He was sourcing from China, I think. Good luck with that piece of legal action.
The lawsuit was filed against Triarco Industries Inc., whose manufacturing facilities are all here in the U.S., and where the raw materials were sourced isn't relevant to this particular case.
Taken from the actual lawsuit:
Little David
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Gary Null wrote:
"Fortunately, only one lot of Power Meal was defective and none of product reached the retail market. Nevertheless, I had taken far larger amounts over an extended period of time than anybody else."
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/04/29/too-deliciously-ironic-for-words-gary-nu/
Is he saying that none of his customers could have purchased the defective product from him?
"Fortunately, only one lot of Power Meal was defective and none of product reached the retail market. Nevertheless, I had taken far larger amounts over an extended period of time than anybody else."
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/04/29/too-deliciously-ironic-for-words-gary-nu/
Is he saying that none of his customers could have purchased the defective product from him?
Teanntás
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The comparison with BIG Pharma is ludicrous. How many people die per year from vitamins ?
Read here
http://silver.neep.wisc.edu/~lakes/iatrogenic.pdf
"106,000 deaths per year from non-error adverse effects of medication "
Little David
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My interest in the article was this:
"At all the stores investigated, the St. John’s Wort contained absolutely no St. John’s Wort. Likewise, the Gingko Biloba had no Gingko Biloba. Instead, many of the products contained nothing but cheap fillers, including a common houseplant called dracaena."
"At all the stores investigated, the St. John’s Wort contained absolutely no St. John’s Wort. Likewise, the Gingko Biloba had no Gingko Biloba. Instead, many of the products contained nothing but cheap fillers, including a common houseplant called dracaena."
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No doubt that this type of thing is common.
Just as bad if not worse, some of these products do contain what they're supposed but are contaminated with heavy metals as well.
I'd recommend that for anyone buying supplements to really do careful research about what you're buying. Unfortunately there's lots of crap out there that's worthless and/or potentially harmful.
Mike Adams at Natural News has tested some supplements (as well as some food items) for heavy metals and those results are here for anyone interested:
http://labs.naturalnews.com/
All that said though, I agree with what Teanntás just said about the comparison with Big Pharma being ridiculous.
Despite the pharmaceutical industry being highly regulated (as compared to the supplements industry where there is little regulation) pharmaceuticals can be tainted as well. And when that happens the consequences are usually much worse.
For anyone who believes otherwise, check out this article: http://thecrux.com/warning-if-your-prescription-drugs-come-from-here-they-could-be-tainted/
And even here in the U.S. there are things that have happened as well. From just two months ago:
Little David
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Mike Adams The Scientology Health Ranger Stands Tall:
[video=youtube;XyNh1j3dsp8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNh1j3dsp8[/video]
"Try not to vomit at the cheesiness of the whole video. Instead, look at this fresh-faced young man caught at around the 26 sec. mark":
Does he look familiar? Like a much younger version of this guy, maybe?
Still, I’m not 100% sure. There’s definitely a resemblance, but it’s not obvious enough that I consider it a slam dunk that these are picture of the same person at different ages. The Titmouse pointed me to this discussion thread, however, where one member wrote:
Hmm. Kinda looks like a younger Mike Adams.
To which a member with the ‘nym “Smurf” replied:
Yup, it’s the same crackpot. I met with Mike several times in the past.. he was convinced HIV/AIDS could be cured by vitamins & purified water.
continues: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/06/23/scientology-and-mike-adams-it-all-become/
[video=youtube;XyNh1j3dsp8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNh1j3dsp8[/video]
"Try not to vomit at the cheesiness of the whole video. Instead, look at this fresh-faced young man caught at around the 26 sec. mark":
Does he look familiar? Like a much younger version of this guy, maybe?
Still, I’m not 100% sure. There’s definitely a resemblance, but it’s not obvious enough that I consider it a slam dunk that these are picture of the same person at different ages. The Titmouse pointed me to this discussion thread, however, where one member wrote:
Hmm. Kinda looks like a younger Mike Adams.
To which a member with the ‘nym “Smurf” replied:
Yup, it’s the same crackpot. I met with Mike several times in the past.. he was convinced HIV/AIDS could be cured by vitamins & purified water.
continues: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/06/23/scientology-and-mike-adams-it-all-become/