Hypnosis and Dianetics - Article from the 1952 Issue of The Journal of Hypnosis:

[Lermanet_com]

"...and what he contends can be accomplished with his theory of dianetics
can be accomplished as easily and better with hypnosis and suggestion."

"Hubbard has banned suggestion but he uses it as the very tool with which to get his patient into reverie."

""Look at the ceiling" This is simple objective hypnotic fixation"

 

[Lermanet_com]

On the thread by the same title on FB in SPs'r'us David Love asked me about a technique for inducing the deepest trances. It was in a book called Clinical Hypnotherapy by Leslie Le Cron wherein it is described that if you want to place a person into a deep trance that all you have to do is get the person to imagine something that is moving that is not really there. And then do this a few times. (note)

" Try this innocuous self induced deep trance using this method if you doubt my words... Because a deep trance causes a pain free state, Hubbard called this "clear"... you will find this both pleasant and relaxing. Note1

Relax in a comfortable chair. Imagine an orange basketball rolling slowly across a table towards the edge Anticipate it reaching the edge and falling off.. it then falls off the table, then bounces repeatedly on the floor and goes out the doorway, out of sight, and you hear it bouncing away as the sound fades away to nothing. Repeat this 'excercise' or 'process' a few to a dozen times... Now, relax and enjoy the pain free benefits of a self induced trance state.


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David Love said he described this and then tried the basketball story on someone he was working with and they said "Stop, I don't want to hear any more"

Which brings up another good point, THIS is also why Hubbard "said" that he "invented" a "new technology of the mind" - a shore story, and called it DIANETICS and SCIENTOLOGY.

It is also why everything had to be done exactly as it was written, because he could never, truly, tell us what we were doing.. which was suggestion and hypnosis!

Hypnosis Works! (note2)


Note: And it was suggested that if the person objects to hypnosis that you might make up an acceptable stpry to fit it in
Note1: This is direct suggestion, how many direct suggestions did you read in Dianetics?
Note2: (If you managed to actually read Dianetics you learned that the reactive mind is something you must get rid of, he also calls it 'the BANK", which is no accident, Now reach into your wallet that contains the money that you got from your BANK (which you simply must get rid of because the BANK is the dreaded REACTIVE MIND) and mail me a check for $100..in compliance with the Ferengi and scientology doctrine of exchange.

 

[guanoloco]

On the thread by the same title on FB in SPs'r'us David Love asked me about a technique for inducing the deepest trances. It was in a book called Clinical Hypnotherapy by Leslie Le Cron wherein it is described that if you want to place a person into a deep trance that all you have to do is get the person to imagine something that is moving that is not really there. And then do this a few times. (note)

" Try this innocuous self induced deep trance using this method if you doubt my words... Because a deep trance causes a pain free state, Hubbard called this "clear"... you will find this both pleasant and relaxing. Note1

Relax in a comfortable chair. Imagine an orange basketball rolling slowly across a table towards the edge Anticipate it reaching the edge and falling off.. it then falls off the table, then bounces repeatedly on the floor and goes out the doorway, out of sight, and you hear it bouncing away as the sound fades away to nothing. Repeat this 'excercise' or 'process' a few to a dozen times... Now, relax and enjoy the pain free benefits of a self induced trance state.


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David Love said he described this and then tried the basketball story on someone he was working with and they said "Stop, I don't want to hear any more"

Which brings up another good point, THIS is also why Hubbard "said" that he "invented" a "new technology of the mind" - a shore story, and called it DIANETICS and SCIENTOLOGY.

It is also why everything had to be done exactly as it was written, because he could never, truly, tell us what we were doing.. which was suggestion and hypnosis!

Hypnosis Works! (note2)


Note: And it was suggested that if the person objects to hypnosis that you might make up an acceptable stpry to fit it in
Note1: This is direct suggestion, how many direct suggestions did you read in Dianetics?
Note2: (If you managed to actually read Dianetics you learned that the reactive mind is something you must get rid of, he also calls it 'the BANK", which is no accident, Now reach into your wallet that contains the money that you got from your BANK (which you simply must get rid of because the BANK is the dreaded REACTIVE MIND) and mail me a check for $100..in compliance with the Ferengi and scientology doctrine of exchange.

Interesting about imagining something moving that isn't there...the somatic strip will now go (move) to the beginning of the incident...

 

[Lermanet_com]

Interesting about imagining something moving that isn't there...the somatic strip will now go (move) to the beginning of the incident...

And lots of this on the "upper levels" ... tons in fact.

 

[guanoloco]

You know, Arnie, that file clerk was a busy little beaver as well.

 

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

Most people think hypnosis is far more involved than it really is and have no idea if they were ever hypnotised.

[video=youtube;b_mK_9T44Ls]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_mK_9T44Ls[/video]

I really can't understand how people can still think Scientology is not a hypnotic con game.

 

[Gib]

Interesting about imagining something moving that isn't there...the somatic strip will now go (move) to the beginning of the incident...

that somatic strip thingie always had me go WTF are you hubbard talking about. But I bought into the glories of "clear".

my bad.

 

[Lermanet_com]

I really can't understand how people can still think Scientology is not a hypnotic con game.

Answer: DENIAL and we must get better at explaining this to people.

 

[Lermanet_com]

that somatic strip thingie always had me go WTF are you hubbard talking about. But I bought into the glories of "clear".

my bad.

Whenever you go WTF? remember The Confusion Technique, it is a covert hypnosis technique.

Stick Confusion Technique into google, the top two pages are my own.

 

[Gib]

You know, Arnie, that file clerk was a busy little beaver as well.

that's another one I couldn't understand. Who is this "file clerk" in my mind, and why don't I know about him?

Now that I thinking about it, and I just gotta

Me to File clerk, you are fired. I told you a million times now, don't file in the "reactive mind".

 

[Gib]

Whenever you go WTF? remember The Confusion Technique, it is a covert hypnosis technique.

Stick Confusion Technique into google, the top two pages are my own.

The confusion technique. Now that I have read that link again,

why it sounds the same throughout the history of scientology and regarding the definition of "clear" which hubbard redefined a few times.

And the recent times in which DM has recalled people saying they are not clear, and saying OT's need to do again their objectives. OMG. One is up the so called Bridge and supposedly in PT and OT, and now they gots to do the "objectives" again to get fully in present ime, OMG, talk about confusion technique.

And the latest and greatest from the present time church, is the "lost tech" that has been found and now needs to be implemented. OMG, what about KSW saying the tech has been fully taped now and just follow what I say now, I being LRH.

Confusion it is.

 

[freethinker]

You should check her other videos where she says there is no such thing as mind control and the Pope OK'd hypnosis in 1957 because God used it on Adam to remove the rib. I couldn't watch the whole thing.

Most people think hypnosis is far more involved than it really is and have no idea if they were ever hypnotised.

[video=youtube;b_mK_9T44Ls]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_mK_9T44Ls[/video]

I really can't understand how people can still think Scientology is not a hypnotic con game.

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

<snip> I really can't understand how people can still think Scientology is not a hypnotic con game.

Me neither.. I think corporal spanking is the only way!

 

[programmer_guy]

Some of the stuff in that old article has not been exactly true, in the way it is done, in later Standard Dianetics for quite some time now. (No, I am not defending Dianetics as I think, for example, that so-called Engrams are bullshit)

But I agree that the repetitive nature of some auditing (especially Objectives) would be hypnotic, in greater or lessor degrees, depending on the individual PC.

 

[Lermanet_com]

Some of the stuff in that old article has not been exactly true, in the way it is done, in later Standard Dianetics for quite some time now. (No, I am not defending Dianetics as I think, for example, that so-called Engrams are bullshit)

But I agree that the repetitive nature of some auditing (especially Objectives) would be hypnotic, in greater or lessor degrees, depending on the individual PC.

Yes, but we know we are not studying $cientology where everything must be true..

 

[Lermanet_com]

A page saved from a book titled "Death in the Mind" - it is about military hypnosis. Written under a pen name, the actual author is believed to be hypnotist George Estabrooks, who consulted with OSS (now CIA) during WWII. It might have been Mr Estabrooks attempt to get some of the material that was classified known by the public. Hubbard mentions Estabrooks in the PDC tapes I think it was. It was Mr Estabrooks who stated that the only defense against covert hypnosis is to become familiar with the methods being used upon you.

 

[kate8024]

And lots of this on the "upper levels" ... tons in fact.

I find that if I do ruds to clear my mind of whatever is going on now, then do about 10-15 minutes of zazen meditation, then do some copying of ashtrays (or a similar exercise) I get a nice trance state going on that can actually be pretty trippy at times.

 

[Lermanet_com]

Some more George Estabrooks:

A good bio on George here: LINK

"“I can hypnotize a man — without his knowledge or consent — into committing treason against the United States,” boasted Dr. George Estabrooks in the early 1940s."

"Estabrooks only alludes to the severe trauma that is required to create a true multiple, often referring to the trauma euphemistically as a form of hypnotism. At one point, he notes that "[multiple personalities] are caused by a form of hypnotism in the first place! We will see that emotional shock produces exactly the same results as hypnotism." Later, he comes closer to the grim reality when he states: "multiple personality could be both caused and cured by hypnotism. Remember that war is a grim business. Suppose we deliberately set up that condition of multiple personality to further the ends of military intelligence."

Elsewhere, Estabrooks acknowledges that he himself had written previously that: "everyone could be thrown into the deepest state of hypnotism by the use of what termed the Russian method - no holds barred, deliberate disintegration of the personality by psychic torture ... The subject might easily be left a mental wreck but war is a grim business." Also noted is that children make especially good subjects, given that they "are notoriously easy to hypnotize." Which is to say, children are particularly vulnerable to abuse and have more of a tendency to dissociate traumatic experiences, thereby creating alter identities that can be later exploited and controlled. "