I Audited a Plant (no, not the OSA kind, a Real One)

[Voltaire's Child]

Yep, he did a lot of things to defraud people. But I don't have a problem with him auditing a plant. I never had that sold to me as any reason to do anything at reg time or recruitment or fundraisers or anything like that.

 

[Alanzo]

Yep, he did a lot of things to defraud people. But I don't have a problem with him auditing a plant. I never had that sold to me as any reason to do anything at reg time or recruitment or fundraisers or anything like that.

Those pictures you see of him auditing a tomato plant?

They are all staged, and used to create PR for himself and Scientology in the late 60's and early 70's. Just because you didn't have a reg use it on you personally does not mean that it was not fake, and used purely to make money off of peoples' sincere spiritual pursuits.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Those pictures you see of him auditing a tomato plant?

They are all staged, and used to create PR for himself and Scientology in the late 60's and early 70's. Just because you didn't have a reg use it on you personally does not mean that it was not fake, and used purely to make money off of peoples' sincere spiritual pursuits.

AFAIK, the cult's attempt to make money take place in reg actions, IAS fundraisers and I'd also include casual conversations from staff (or seemingly casual conversations if you get my drift) advising people to do this or that or buy this or that, and also "recruitment cycles" also - to my way of thinking0 would be completed. I've not run across any reports of "Ron audited a tomato plant" being used in such, but I suppose that, the human condition being what it is, anything's possible. (shrugging)

 

[Hatshepsut]

God knows what Hubbard did, but I read Backster's book some years back and have read more of his stuff. He's quite a guy, and the results of his careful experiments over decades into communication with and between lower life forms (plants, cells, bacteria etc.) are sometimes fascinating. And yes, I know that "Mythbusters" in one quick program said it's all bunk.

There are none so confident as the ignorant.

Paul

I have listened to the Cleve Backster interview in the web archives of the Laura Lee show a couple of times. It's the ramifications of his findings that astounded me. It applies to group minds in general. It would be worth doing our own experiments in reading and influencing third dynamic subtle minds. We might even get arrested for competing with a govt project.. :wink2:

 

[Hatshepsut]

What I like about your story, Tory, is that everyone on course the next day thought up a way to explain what happened that still aligned with the the belief system given to you by Ron - the idea that you could audit plants.

The NO REACTION from the plant could not mean that you could not audit plants - because Ron did - it meant that the plant was being pinched too hard!

Then, of course, no one continued trying to audit the plant, they just thought they were knuckleheads (self-invalidation) and did not pursue that line of inquiry any more. You instinctively knew that going down that road was a dangerous thing.

It was dangerous because of the one rule of all ideologies and their ideologues: "the ideology must ALWAYS be true, even when it is not."

Great story.

The thing about it is that you have to endow something with the power to affect you. I expected miracles 100% of the time from processes. I was a blank slate, a sponge in total expectancy of being able to rehab forgotten wisdom. In order to experience this I had to put it there so I could then be the recipient of it. I wanted to believe because the magic wouldn't work if I didn't. And this turned out to be almost accurate.
I often marveled at how much beingness had been granted to the Sea Org by those seeking to leave it. These folks were PTS due to the fact they were still associated under the 'group' umbrella and therefore influenced by the rules regulating what goals it would or wouldn't have for its individuals. Hence the resurgence when this cap finally snapped off.
I looked at this from the outside because I had never granted this entity the beingness to do that to me.

 

[Smurf]

You've seen the photo of Hubbard auditing plants, right?

Well, In 1972 at Celebrity Center, we were on the Academy Levels Internship, training, and someone brought in that photo. "Audit a plant?" REALLY? We were all shocked, but back then, with "Ron" anything was possible.

That night, I came home, and clamped the steel clips to the leaf of one plant, on one side, and then the other, connected to the E-meter. We had hear Ron would only ask Yes, or No questions, so I began.

This went on for a few more, and then I quit. A failure, I thought. Until...I returned to the Academy room, where EVERYONE there admitted they, too, had gone home and tried it, and we ALL got the same response.

So you're saying, Tory, that I'm wasting my time asking you to resuscitate my beloved Chia pet?

 

[degraded being]

I cut plants up. Peel their skins off. Put them into boiling water. Roast them in the oven. Smear butter all over them. Eat them.

Then I say to them. You know that geranium over there? I ask it: it is happy? I fret about it when the leaves are limp. Treat it just like a human.

Really pisses them off.

 

[Miss Pert]

I've never audited a plant but when I first got into Scientology, and didn't know anything about how the evil psychs etc were trying send people in to bring down the cult, I was given an A-J. That is list of questions to determine that you're there of your own volition and aren't spying on them.

Well anyway, the auditor's gone through a few questions and then says "Are you a plant?" My very first, and instant, thought was "wtf, do I look green an leafy to you?" and said "No!" It was only as they read out the next question that I realised what they meant, at which point I had to stop myself from After that I spent a lot of time hiding behind the pot plants in the orgs saying "I'm not a plant."

 

[Panda Termint]

That's funny!

 

[Mystic]

I audited a sick cat one time, telepathically. Had to do some L & N. It's item was "a cow".

Sorry about that cat. I hope you don't mind too much.

 

[Opter]

It is not auditing,but it still shows the way my mind was set as a scio.

I went to give some scio's promo in the street. It was one of my daily tasks as a staff member. The promo had some grammatical errors which was not unusual and one man came back to me,after he read it and very politely pointed out the errors to me. I knew he was right but I decided that he was a very low toned person because he was critical of the promo.

Opter

 

[AnonKat]

Plants Feel Pain, lol

http://www.department13designs.com/vegan.html

Scientists Prove Plants Feel Pain, Vegans Face Starvation
DALLAS--Research scientists at Baylor Medical Center have proven that plants, including vegetables, feel pain when subjected to trauma such as being yanked out of the ground, peeled, cooked, and eaten. "Veggies and plants initiate a massive hormone and chemical barrage internally when they suffer any kind of injury," says professor Barry Lindzer. "This response is akin to the nerve response and endorphin release when an animal is injured. We cannot ignore the similarities." When Tarnish asked professor Lindzer and his research team what they thought this finding might mean, they responded unanimously, "Nobel prize, baby!

 

[Auditor's Toad]

You've seen the photo of Hubbard auditing plants, right?

Well, In 1972 at Celebrity Center, we were on the Academy Levels Internship, training, and someone brought in that photo.
"Audit a plant?" REALLY? We were all shocked, but back then, with "Ron" anything was possible.

That night, I came home, and clamped the steel clips to
the leaf of one plant, on one side, and then the other, connected to the E-meter. We had hear Ron would only ask Yes, or No questions, so I began.

"Are you getting enough water?"
(No read, Tone Arm stuck ---super high TA) To those not trained, that just means NOTHING was responding, basically.

"Do you need more sunlight?"
(Again, same no response)

This went on for a few more, and then I quit.
A failure, I thought. Until...I returned to the Academy
room, where EVERYONE there admitted they, too, had
gone home and tried it, and we ALL got the same response.

We then realized without any padding, it would be like
if HUGE steel clamps were on our hands, and someone was asking us questions. We all had a huge
laugh about what knuckleheads we were.

Anyone else try that, or something else funny?

Just thought I'd share that with you all

Tory/Magoo

Hi Tory, We have crossed paths for many many years. One of the funniest was at the CAN convention in LA. Do you remember Jolly West getting on the elevator? That was very very funny.

Anyway, I do hope one day you and I get a chance to sit down and talk.
And THANK YOU so very much for stepping up and communicating about your leaving and what is out with the church. In my opinion you have - and are being - so very much help to those still in the Truman Show.

Keep up your great work !

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Auditing plants?

Just part of CLAIMOLOGY.

Hubbard was the Founder and Source of Claimology.

He made outlandish claims. And he sold some of them. That's all that L. Ron Hubbard did.

That was his sole business and source of income from 1950 to 1986.

The ones that people believed enough to pay for were incorporated into the "Bridge".

The vast graveyard of more absurdly silly claims that made people laugh out loud were quietly abandoned.

Nobody paid for Tomato Tech, so that's the only reason it was left behind.

Now, invisible aliens and implants that happened trillions of years ago, that stuff sells like hotcakes!

 

[Type4_PTS]

Nobody paid for Tomato Tech, so that's the only reason it was left behind.

Maybe it wasn't left behind.

It's part of the upper OT Levels........not yet released, or part of an unreleased (so far) rundown. Tomatos ARE afterall part of our Fifth Dynamic and can we REALLY be free and ignore this part of our lives?
Ron did really have a solution for this but didn't want to let us know too
soon before we were ready to hear this stuff. Read about this horrible incident on the track before you're ready and the most horrific things might happen to you.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Maybe it wasn't left behind.

It's part of the upper OT Levels........not yet released, or part of an unreleased (so far) rundown. Tomatos ARE afterall part of our Fifth Dynamic and can we REALLY be free and ignore this part of our lives?
Ron did really have a solution for this but didn't want to let us know too
soon before we were ready to hear this stuff. Read about this horrible incident on the track before you're ready and the most horrific things might happen to you.

Jeez! Another horrible incident on the track?!

Jeez! More horrific things that will happen to me if I don't pay Ron and do what he tells me?

If Ron's Tomato Tech really produced OT's (Operating Tomatoes) then why are these tomatoes dead? (... and packaged in e-meter cans?)

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[Nicole]

Today I eat Tomato Soup!

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Well, there are millions and millions of tomatoes growing in the spray fields of waste water treatment facilities.. Because the seeds survives the trip through our intestines, down the drain and ends up thriving in the spray fields!

http://www.foe.co.uk/northern_ireland/press_releases/sewage_tomatoes.html

Just thought you should know that, before auditing any tomatoes.. So that you don't confuse the Obscene Dog Incident with their 'experiences'...

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Spiritual intelligence can attach itself to anything, I think. Living things are the easiest. I also think it's likely that one being can direct many living things instead of just one. Nobody's really IN a body, anyway. Spirits do not occupy space. They just assume the viewpoint. So sometimes you can contact an entity, sometimes you can't. No harm in trying and in having some fun with it.

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Well I certainly hope that LRH charged the going rate for auditing back then as I would not like to see a Tomato plant get befouled in that " free service = free fall " thing.

I mean can you imagine a Tomato Plant having to suffer from free auditing?

But wait, isn't ANY auditing better than no auditing at all?

( Well that ain't true either but that would open a whole different can ).

Did the Tomato Plant go OT ?

If so we could now say that TP is OT...right?