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Seems Crowley had something to do with the Phoenix program during Vietnam. A Sergeant Major (Special Forces) I worked for mention to me his participation in Phoenix. So I was just wondering what was out there on the net. And found DM.
 

Kookaburra

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It took me a minute to find which one you were talking about:

Miscavige, David 6331 Hollywood Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90028

Lol, David Miscavige, CIA source. That should be enough to get him declared a source of trouble, not qualified for staff, not eligible for services ever again.

Hey OSA! What are you doing about this plant?

:clapping:
 

Udarnik

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Seems Crowley had something to do with the Phoenix program during Vietnam. A Sergeant Major (Special Forces) I worked for mention to me his participation in Phoenix. So I was just wondering what was out there on the net. And found DM.

You mean Alestair Crowley? Who died in 1947? Had something to do with Phụng Hoàng (same word as in Mandarin), which ran from 1965 - 1972?

Maybe there is something to this reincarnation shit after all. :roflmao:
 

La La Lou Lou

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Lol, David Miscavige, CIA source. That should be enough to get him declared a source of trouble, not qualified for staff, not eligible for services ever again.

Hey OSA! What are you doing about this plant?

:clapping:

No one in OSA has balls big enough!

Any totalitarian regime relies on fear, this is no different. ''Production is the basis of morale'' and ''arbeit macht frei'' are amazingly similar concepts. Dave has his own KGB, gestapo and gulag or concentration camp system for political prisoners.

Of course there was a deal made between the IRS and Dave, and it well could have involved other national entities. The war was lost, Dave handed over sovereignty to some other power. He destroys the church. The IRS take over the finances, DM buys a palace in Bulgaria, Marty and Mike run scn independently, with no coffers to chase after.
 

Idle Morgue

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Well, that makes perfect sense!! David Miscavige is an informant for the CIA? Hubbard dies a mysterous death and DM takes control of his Cult when he can fleece people and even make them disappear. :omg: No accountability! Hands off from the government!! Legal dox that make human trafficking for the sex trade look like kindergarten!:nervous: Sign a statement that says you will work for a billion years and THEN you find out what that really means!

What I don't get - What is the exchange for the CIA - a "free personality test"?

Or maybe a form of population control...? Death by sequestration? Get people out of society, broke, alone and swinging at wind-mills!
 

La La Lou Lou

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Well, that makes perfect sense!! David Miscavige is an informant for the CIA? Hubbard dies a mysterous death and DM takes control of his Cult when he can fleece people and even make them disappear. :omg: No accountability! Hands off from the government!! Legal dox that make human trafficking for the sex trade look like kindergarten!:nervous: Sign a statement that says you will work for a billion years and THEN you find out what that really means!

What I don't get - What is the exchange for the CIA - a "free personality test"?

Or maybe a form of population control...? Death by sequestration? Get people out of society, broke, alone and swinging at wind-mills!

Perhaps they will inherit the tax free donations that people have made, well minus Dave's percentage. Also there is a line in, unlike Jonestown, they get to know all the financial secrets of the rich and famous scn celebs. And most importantly the US government has Davey boy by the short and curlies, destroying the cult from the top of the inside. In exchange for his retirement plan.
 
You mean Alestair Crowley? Who died in 1947? Had something to do with Phụng Hoàng (same word as in Mandarin), which ran from 1965 - 1972?

Maybe there is something to this reincarnation shit after all. :roflmao:

Robert Trumbull Crowley (July 13, 1924 – October 8, 2000) was an officer in the Central Intelligence Agency since 1947, achieving the rank of assistant deputy director for operations, second in command of the CIA's Directorate of Operations, which was in charge ofcovert operations.[SUP][1][/SUP]
A native of Chicago, Illinois and graduate of the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, he served in the US Army in the Pacific theater during World War II. After the war, he remained in the United States Army Reserve, retiring with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel in 1986.
 

In present time

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Came across this site: http://cryptome.org/cia-2619.htm

And was perusing the names....looked under "M"
Heber is on that list too. Karen mentioned somewhere that Heber told Alex he had to stick around because in a few years he would be very rich. I wish I could remember where she mentioned this.It was probably in Tony O's comments.

Fid you hear that the CIA are giving monthly "sec checks" to the Benghazi witnesses, using lie detectors?

Of course I can see "sec checks" becoming a mainstream tool. It is already happening. Frankly I would be shocked if the CIA didn't compile control and manipulation techniques from the CO$.
 

Udarnik

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Heber is on that list too. Karen mentioned somewhere that Heber told Alex he had to stick around because in a few years he would be very rich. I wish I could remember where she mentioned this.It was probably in Tony O's comments.

Fid you hear that the CIA are giving monthly "sec checks" to the Benghazi witnesses, using lie detectors?

Of course I can see "sec checks" becoming a mainstream tool. It is already happening. Frankly I would be shocked if the CIA didn't compile control and manipulation techniques from the CO$.

You've got to be kidding me. CO$ "tech" is next to useless. The Agency has a lot more effective techniques developed by people with actual degrees and the brains to back the paper up. Evil people, maybe, but a hell of a lot smarter and less delusional than Hubbard. This is exactly why the KGB never responded to Hubbard's overtures. Those bastards tried anything they thought would work, and even a few things that obviously were tinfoil hat material.

Sec checks are a normal part of having a military security clearance at any level, even back in the 40s. Hubbard got the idea from the Navy, not the other way around. When he wussed out of active surface combat after getting his wrist slapped for attacking Mexico, he applied for a military government assignment that would have prepared him for being a military administrator in occupied Germany or Japan, and he would have been sec checked heavily for that.The US didn't use anyone who had a hatred of those 2 cultures* for the military government because they didn't want to repeat the mistakes of The Treaty of Versailles.

* Note that the USMC did the lion's share of the fighting against Japan, but no Marine units were used as occupying forces in the early years - they were sent to China for peacekeeping. Because they fucking hated the Japanese - with good reason. Read E.B. Sledge if you want to understand their hatred. The US government has bumbled in a lot of places over its history, but it got the occupations after WWII right. Unfortunately the likes of George Marshall are rare in the echelons above reality that rule the Pentagon.
 
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yeah, mostly true. black ops uses family and friends as weapons against you the same a scientology does with disconnect... and this suicide programming scn. uses is old and tested also.
i still think old l.ron contributed quite a lot to the motion of total mind fuck.

you dont end up with a org worth billions in assets unless you have that special ingredient.

whenlittle davey claimed he had friends in high places, he was't talking about god.
 

AnonKat

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yeah, mostly true. black ops uses family and friends as weapons against you the same a scientology does with disconnect... and this suicide programming scn. uses is old and tested also.
i still think old l.ron contributed quite a lot to the motion of total mind fuck.

you dont end up with a org worth billions in assets unless you have that special ingredient.

whenlittle davey claimed he had friends in high places, he was't talking about god.

look for the snippets onhere from L ron Hubbard unexpectacly talking about hypnotism

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?17092-Hypnotism-Unexpected-lecture-in-1954
 
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