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Anonycat

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Mark Bunker is an Emmy Award winning television journalist.
In 2008, Bunker posted a video to YouTube critical of the Internet-based group "Anonymous" and asked them to tone down their campaign against the Church of Scientology; a movement called "Project Chanology"."Message to Anonymous", Bunker urged the group to work legally and pursue peaceful ways to protest Scientology. Subsequently Anonymous dubbed him "Wise old Man" or "Wise Beard Man,"

This video is one of several forthcoming Mark Bunker stories that will be told on this channel
http://youtu.be/EHcfMdImpmc

This is just a fantastic video! They keep getting better and better, and this one is a personal favorite of mine now. This is a wonderful "fireside chat" video of Mark telling the story of his suggestion to Anonymous/Chanology to be good, and behave in a legal manner. Now, at the time, Chanology was new. It was ruckus and bawdy (aka naughty) in many ways, but considering where it was born, that is a given. So, Anonymous had various prank ideas, which were deemed funny enough, as to get consensus. Believe it or not, consensus was the way back then. So, people might think it funny to send hundreds of black faxes (sending a sheet of black paper over a fax to an Org x 500, to run their printer ink out), or to send a few dozen pizzas, or hookers, or what have you. DDoS, and other hijinks were afoot. So, here comes this OG saying that Anons should be careful as to not mess up. Now, this was already held as a good idea by some Anons, but the 4chan style lols were still alive too, and that was important to some. Almost instantly, he was called Wise Beard Man, or WBM. What he was saying made as much sense as bringing a mask, water bottles and cake to a 4 hour raid. Suddenly and irrevocably, he became a voice of reason. It was unprecedented, and surely will never happen again in the world of Anonymous.

I really loved what Karen says about the underground tunnels that people were drilled to take, should an appearance of Anonymous occur. I had never heard this story! But, I do remember protesting outside an Org and a staff member coming out to say that the more we oppose them, the more they expand. Of course, this turned out to be a lie. But one can't help but notice how they hide and cover their windows when protesters appear. What happened to communicating on any topic? What about shattering SPs and PTS? What about creating a "better" environment as an OT? In reality, they were running and hiding, and having people slip in the back door when protesters arrived.

This video is a must see!
 

RogerB

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Anonycat wrote:
sending a sheet of black paper over a fax to an Org x 500, to run their printer ink out

Oh, Dear! Imagine how that screwed up their weekly FP!

Too funny for words . . . I wonder if Anonymous actually knew what havock screwing with FP causes orgs . . . :clap:

Delicious!

R
 

Bea Kiddo

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This is just a fantastic video! They keep getting better and better, and this one is a personal favorite of mine now. This is a wonderful "fireside chat" video of Mark telling the story of his suggestion to Anonymous/Chanology to be good, and behave in a legal manner. Now, at the time, Chanology was new. It was ruckus and bawdy (aka naughty) in many ways, but considering where it was born, that is a given. So, Anonymous had various prank ideas, which were deemed funny enough, as to get consensus. Believe it or not, consensus was the way back then. So, people might think it funny to send hundreds of black faxes (sending a sheet of black paper over a fax to an Org x 500, to run their printer ink out), or to send a few dozen pizzas, or hookers, or what have you. DDoS, and other hijinks were afoot. So, here comes this OG saying that Anons should be careful as to not mess up. Now, this was already held as a good idea by some Anons, but the 4chan style lols were still alive too, and that was important to some. Almost instantly, he was called Wise Beard Man, or WBM. What he was saying made as much sense as bringing a mask, water bottles and cake to a 4 hour raid. Suddenly and irrevocably, he became a voice of reason. It was unprecedented, and surely will never happen again in the world of Anonymous.

I really loved what Karen says about the underground tunnels that people were drilled to take, should an appearance of Anonymous occur. I had never heard this story! But, I do remember protesting outside an Org and a staff member coming out to say that the more we oppose them, the more they expand. Of course, this turned out to be a lie. But one can't help but notice how they hide and cover their windows when protesters appear. What happened to communicating on any topic? What about shattering SPs and PTS? What about creating a "better" environment as an OT? In reality, they were running and hiding, and having people slip in the back door when protesters arrived.

This video is a must see!

When I was in training at Flag in 98/99, when there were protesters (Dec every year - for Lisa McPherson), there was heavy security around every entrance and exit. There is no way to travel underground at Flag. Sometimes I had to go from the Fort Harrison (which is where auditing occurred for lower level PC's and where I did my Internships) to the Coachman building. Without protesters, you could walk the couple of blocks. They also always provided buses as well. During protesting, security would watch the protesters and radio the bus driver when he could come around to this one side door and then all of us would RUN out and pack onto the bus and take off before the protesters got back around the corner. It was ridiculous.

It was those protesters at Flag and someone carrying a coffin that made me start thinking. And it began my doubt, serious doubt, and eventual journey out.

When I got to the Coachman, I was still kind of watching the protesters. One of the OSA or security people told me that I could go talk to them if I wanted to, since I was OT. They said one of the guys freezes heads for a living or something. I had no idea what they were talking about. I did not go talk to the protesters though.

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At PAC (big blue) there are tunnels between all of the major buildings. They are wide and long and can hold hundreds of people at a time. That is where all the RPF members are most of the time.
 

AnonKat

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Long time Church of Scientology investigator, videographer and television journalist Mark Bunker explains how he accidentally triggered the Anonymous war against Scientology. It stemmed from the removal of the Tom Cruise videos which angered free speech advocates and Chanology. Suddenly in February 2008 global protests erupted outside their "Churches". Scientology Inc has been an war with one at all for a very long time. It is a warfare internally and externally. You get glimpses of this in this video.
I explains what it was like to be inside behind cult lines when protests happened


[video=youtube;QMqAJoDOdtQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqAJoDOdtQ[/video]
 

Anonycat

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Long time Church of Scientology investigator, videographer and television journalist Mark Bunker explains how he accidentally triggered the Anonymous war against Scientology. It stemmed from the removal of the Tom Cruise videos which angered free speech advocates and Chanology. Suddenly in February 2008 global protests erupted outside their "Churches". Scientology Inc has been an war with one at all for a very long time. It is a warfare internally and externally. You get glimpses of this in this video.
I explains what it was like to be inside behind cult lines when protests happened


[video=youtube;QMqAJoDOdtQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqAJoDOdtQ[/video]

I think that's inaccurate. Mark didn't trigger it, but I understand his perspective now - which was fascinating to hear. Here's how the video was leaked: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?24610-The-Story-behind-the-Tom-Cruise-Video-Leak

Now, at the time, I was unaware of Mark taking down his video post, but attention was very much on sci taking it down elsewhere on the internet. In defiance, Gawker refused to remove it, as it was newsworthy. This made Gawker instantly awesome. They have updated their page a bit, but the video is still there, nearly 6 years later. http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress

The feeling at the time, was that sci tries to censor the internet, and that cannot stand. But, there was everything else they were doing, and when you add it up, was reason enough to dismantle them.

When Project Chanology was born, it was helped by some trolling. Some people found out and got mad, some didn't care (me, for example), and some never knew. Here's what happened: at 4chan there were moderators. Some of them thought they could encourage consensus by ... cheating. As moderators, they could delete posts that opposed the support of Project Chanology, and with additional anonymous posts of support, a certain few people made it look as if consensus was reached. I think it would have happened anyway, but it happened the way it happened, so I'm happy either way. To me, it was the best troll ever, because scientology really did need to come down. If you've ever heard someone say that Chanology was started by a cabal, or named that cabal, saying it was Marblecake, it is true, to the degree that bringing influence to encourage the success of Chanology was what they did. The same moderator also made the Message to Scientology video, with a few friends.

This is what I found so interesting about Mark's take on the situation. The video was a good troll in itself - kinda scary, kinda threatening, and the robotic voice of "David", gave a sense that this was really going to happen, and no one can stop it. When 10,000 hit the streets in protest, it was bigger than anyone expected. The forum Enturbulation.org went up quickly, to coincide with the rest of the actions that had been put into place, and became the global forum for Project Chanology.

Now I'm just rambling. :p
 

Churchill

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Urrrgh, that bloody cult has got to be handled!

It's about time Federal Prosecutors looked at scenarios as depicted by Mark wherein an entire local Police Force has been corrupted . . .

That kind of shit should be acted upon by the "Feds" . . .

Keep these coming Karen . . . you are doing wonderfully! :yes:

R


EXACTLY!

it reminds me of the corruption that Organized Crime (the Mafia) was able to initiate.

Is there no one in Federal law enforcement capable of standing up to them?

Where is Clarence M. Kelly when we need him?

He was the FBI Director who raided the cult in '77 and succeeded Hoover.
 

AnonKat

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*bazinga*

Scientology Inc encourages wives to snitch on husbands and vice versa. Parents snitch on their children, Children report on their parents. *ALL* in the culture report any disaffection on negative remark to the hierarchy for discipline.
The wives would not have been told about the beatings ~~ there are severe
repercussions always. Thought Police do not permit one to voice anything negative.
especially about management or Miscavige


[video=youtube;0LPUucp4WrE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPUucp4WrE[/video]​
 

In present time

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Mark Bunker is an Emmy Award winning television journalist.
In 2008, Bunker posted a video to YouTube critical of the Internet-based group "Anonymous" and asked them to tone down their campaign against the Church of Scientology; a movement called "Project Chanology"."Message to Anonymous", Bunker urged the group to work legally and pursue peaceful ways to protest Scientology. Subsequently Anonymous dubbed him "Wise old Man" or "Wise Beard Man,"

This video is one of several forthcoming Mark Bunker stories that will be told on this channel
http://youtu.be/EHcfMdImpmc
My goodness Karen, such a big punch packed in a little body.
No way will the cherch ever figure out how to handle you;)
 

Boojuum

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*bazinga*

Scientology Inc encourages wives to snitch on husbands and vice versa. Parents snitch on their children, Children report on their parents. *ALL* in the culture report any disaffection on negative remark to the hierarchy for discipline.
The wives would not have been told about the beatings ~~ there are severe
repercussions always. Thought Police do not permit one to voice anything negative.
especially about management or Miscavige


[video=youtube;0LPUucp4WrE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPUucp4WrE[/video]​

Fabulous!!!

(I enjoyed the music selection as well.)
 

AnonKat

Crusader
another gem from Karen;


The *Church* of Scientology has not sued the media in some 14 years. The last time it sued was Time Magazine a to a resounding LOSS for the Church, millions of dollars later....
In more recent times, Vanity Fair was threatened and threatened *See you in Court....*
Hot Air, Bogus Threat.
Larry Wright on the book "Going Clear" bogus threats to him and his Publisher
Jenna Miscavige Bogus threats to Publisher
CNN threatened over and over again before airing of "Scientology,. a History of Violence"
BBC Panorama, numerous bogus threats to Panorama Legal
"Scientologists at war" documentary (recently sold to VOD) numerous threats to the videographers and the lawyers of the documentary film company ~~ all bogus, all hot air.
Burt Fields (Tom Cruise Lawyer) bogus threat to Marty Rathbun.,
On and on and On.
Idle threats. Bogus threats. Hot air.
The tactic is to huff and puff and beat on one's chest like a Tarzan.
Toothless. Dysfunctional. Duplicitous.​

[video=youtube;PI8d8pZQW04]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8d8pZQW04[/video]​
 

Karen#1

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Jefferson Hawkins reminisces and reflects on Life at "INT Base". This is the headquarters of the Church where David Miscavige and all the senior executives live.
It is place of punishment and sadism. When I chat with Jeff and we talk about past events it is utterly *SURREAL*. We lived through it in the Sea Orhg from Apollo days and lasted decades. How can that be ?
http://youtu.be/V0kL12vtw7M
 

RogerB

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Again, brilliantly presented Karen.

These videos ring so truthfully that they cannot but shock those who see them for the first time. You are doing stellar work in exposing the evil and insanity that the cult has become.

RogerB
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Again, brilliantly presented Karen.

These videos ring so truthfully that they cannot but shock those who see them for the first time. You are doing stellar work in exposing the evil and insanity that the cult has become.


^^^^^^^^^

What Roger said!
:thumbsup:
 

Karen#1

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Scientology Inc: Lawyers and Legal. Money is not an issue. Deep pockets.

Office of Special Affairs Legal International briefing a trusted Lawyer. The idea is NOT to try a case on its MERIT. The *Church* will stall and file endless motions for years to STOP and BLOCK the progress of the law suit. Motion to disqualify ther Judge ! Motion to disqualify the Lawyers ! Motion to disqualify Venue (geographical location)
Motion to disqualify Consultants to the Lawyers ! Motions to disqualify because of time frame ! Motions to disqualify turning over Confessional folders ! Motions all the way to Supreme Court (mostly not looked at and kicked back). Summary judgement motions.
$1000 an hour lawyers.

http://youtu.be/bsrlivh5e7M
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Re: Scientology Inc: Lawyers and Legal. Money is not an issue. Deep pockets.

Office of Special Affairs Legal International briefing a trusted Lawyer. The idea is NOT to try a case on its MERIT. The *Church* will stall and file endless motions for years to STOP and BLOCK the progress of the law suit. Motion to disqualify ther Judge ! Motion to disqualify the Lawyers ! Motion to disqualify Venue (geographical location)
Motion to disqualify Consultants to the Lawyers ! Motions to disqualify because of time frame ! Motions to disqualify turning over Confessional folders ! Motions all the way to Supreme Court (mostly not looked at and kicked back). Summary judgement motions.
$1000 an hour lawyers.

http://youtu.be/bsrlivh5e7M


What's in this video is all so true! The abuse of the judicial system by CoS is truly disgusting. I would love to see the NY Times or 60 Minutes do an expose on all this! :yes:
 
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Purple Rain

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Re: Scientology Inc: Lawyers and Legal. Money is not an issue. Deep pockets.

Office of Special Affairs Legal International briefing a trusted Lawyer. The idea is NOT to try a case on its MERIT. The *Church* will stall and file endless motions for years to STOP and BLOCK the progress of the law suit. Motion to disqualify ther Judge ! Motion to disqualify the Lawyers ! Motion to disqualify Venue (geographical location)
Motion to disqualify Consultants to the Lawyers ! Motions to disqualify because of time frame ! Motions to disqualify turning over Confessional folders ! Motions all the way to Supreme Court (mostly not looked at and kicked back). Summary judgement motions.
$1000 an hour lawyers.

http://youtu.be/bsrlivh5e7M

I love when you guys act these things out - I don't know how you don't crack up on camera! I bet the blooper reel would be hilarious! But even though I enjoy the humour I love how the satire gets the serious message across. They're just so clever, and as I think I've said before, they're getting better and better. So proud of the great job you're doing getting these videos out there. It's the perfect answer to their harassment and abuses and lies. Love to you, as always.
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
Re: Scientology Inc: Lawyers and Legal. Money is not an issue. Deep pockets.

Office of Special Affairs Legal International briefing a trusted Lawyer. The idea is NOT to try a case on its MERIT. The *Church* will stall and file endless motions for years to STOP and BLOCK the progress of the law suit. Motion to disqualify ther Judge ! Motion to disqualify the Lawyers ! Motion to disqualify Venue (geographical location)
Motion to disqualify Consultants to the Lawyers ! Motions to disqualify because of time frame ! Motions to disqualify turning over Confessional folders ! Motions all the way to Supreme Court (mostly not looked at and kicked back). Summary judgement motions.
$1000 an hour lawyers.

http://youtu.be/bsrlivh5e7M


Wow! I think family law (divorce) attorneys are about $250 USD per hour in SoCal.
 
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