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AnonKat

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[video=youtube;qMxX-QOV9tI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI#t=141[/video]

Umm, an equally good question is: Where is Diana Hubbard??

Is that a conspicuous no show, or what?!

Rog

Roger I want you to praise me, I am a little L Ron Hubbard

Cat Daddy | November 25, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Reply

Evidence sugests L Ron Hubbard did not like the free spirit of children

proove me wrong

Lady Min | November 27, 2013 at 9:48 am | Reply

Cat Daddy, I just want to tell you that Diana Hubbard absolutely loved her father, L. Ron Hubbard, and was positively enamored with him,., in her early thirties. She visited Austin, Texas, to do an event and I was appointed as her hostess, chauffeur, etc., and spent many hours with her. She was a very free spirit herself, a very talented entertainer, and I can assure you with all vehemence, that she would not be like this if her father had suppressed her free spirit in any way. She had been a ballerina, could play the piano like a concert pianist, and played such classics as Chopin, etc. She wrote her own music and it was some of the best I have ever heard. She was fun loving, spirited, and wanted to go “kicker dancing”, (country music dancing, much in vogue at the time), but was not allowed to by the then Assistant Guardian for Public Relations, Donnie Webster, who thought it might be a security risk for her.. She desperately wanted to go and I was ready to take her. This after having been up all night before getting her stats up as CS-6, (Commodore’s Staff for Public Divisions), traveling on an airplane, coming to Austin, giving a concert that was delayed by several hours, and then going out with a bunch of Scientologists for dinner, where she laughed, joked and was kind of a prankster, making a mess out of the condiments on the table. She is one of the more free spirits I have ever met, and I know one when I meet one! I cannot imagine her being this way, if L. Ron Hubbard didn’t like the free spirit of children!

She told me that her father, “ever the gentleman”, (her words) had sent her a dozen red roses for Valentine’s Day, (which had just passed), and she told me also that her mother, Mary Sue Hubbard, was an extremely organized lady. She also told me that Ron and Mary Sue, her parents, had met in Austin, Texas “across the street” (her words again, as we were getting in the elevator at the Austin Org at the time, which is across the street from the main part of the University of Texas.) She said Mary Sue was going to school there and her Dad gave lectures there. This was corroborated by another man who came into the Austin Org one day while I was at the reception desk, and asked about L. Ron Hubbard, saying that he had listened to LRH give lectures at the University of Texas, some thirty years earlier!

It was very clear to me that Diana loved and respected her parents very much, and I just want you to know that so that you don’t have any misconceptions.

Additionally, there are many early lectures where LRH talks about the free spirit of little kids, and how they can be more sane than adults. I would love to give you exact references, but it would take me hours and hours to find those references. I know there is one lecture, where he talks about a little kid not being able to watch a football game on TV with his parents more than a few minutes, because he just can’t sit around that long and would rather be in motion! He said this from the perspective of the little kid being active and he was complimentary about him not being a spectator in life; that the little kid would be more inclined to go outside and play football himself! That really resonated with me at the time, because I was a very active little kid, and I could only watch football for a few minutes and then I wanted to go out and play! Later, as an adult I would spend hours and hours watching football with my Dad!

I always enjoy your posts, Cat Daddy, and if you ever come to Texas, I’ll take you and your wife/sweetheart “kicker dancing” and we’ll have some fun!
Cat Daddy | November 28, 2013 at 12:06 pm | Reply

It makes me sad, because so many children of others suffered, he had his favorites.

Thank you for the standing invitation
 

RogerB

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Thanks Smurf and AnonKat . . .

Diana is a cutie who does have talent.

John Horwich was her first husband. She married again in late '82 or maybe in '83. Don't know/remember the guys name, but I did meet him very briefly. He was in the music production bus.

Just that it sort of strikes me that she would be someone to be seen at these types of extravaganzas . . . you know, upholding the family name and all that kind of stuff. But NOOooo . . . looks like the dwarf does not like any other competition :duh:

R
 

i'mglib

Patron with Honors
Thanks for the video, Karen.

I haven't looked at the video for a long time, but AnonOrange wasn't trespassing. He wasn't even anywhere near their fence. The case against AnonOrange for trespassing was dropped. The security guards simply didn't want us anywhere near their property, and basically went nuts and dogpiled AO, when they could have simply turned and gone back inside their walled prison.

The church had slowly but surely usurped public property by landscaping it and moving their fence closer and closer to the highway. They did this to force protesters into the street, and to take away open area for parking. At one point they did move all their fencing back to the property line, but I wouldn't be surprised if at this point they have crept back towards the street again. However, where AO was attacked was basically an open area where people parked, but it was just on the other side of the fence from their International Headquarters.

At the time few people had protested there, and few Scientologists even knew there was such a place. The guards came on strong, trying to give of this intimidating, scary impression that this was a place that was off limits to everyone--or else. I believe the point was to make it seem like this was not a place to be visited, and these were people not to be reckoned with.

Here's my video from that day:

https://vimeo.com/2078327

Somewhere there's video of one of the first times protesters showed up at Gold Base, and all the guards were out in force, putting on a great show of being badasses.
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Thanks for the video, Karen.

I haven't looked at the video for a long time, but AnonOrange wasn't trespassing. He wasn't even anywhere near their fence. The case against AnonOrange for trespassing was dropped. The security guards simply didn't want us anywhere near their property, and basically went nuts and dogpiled AO, when they could have simply turned and gone back inside their walled prison.

The church had slowly but surely usurped public property by landscaping it and moving their fence closer and closer to the highway. They did this to force protesters into the street, and to take away open area for parking. At one point they did move all their fencing back to the property line, but I wouldn't be surprised if at this point they have crept back towards the street again. However, where AO was attacked was basically an open area where people parked, but it was just on the other side of the fence from their International Headquarters.

At the time few people had protested there, and few Scientologists even knew there was such a place. The guards came on strong, trying to give of this intimidating, scary impression that this was a place that was off limits to everyone--or else. I believe the point was to make it seem like this was not a place to be visited, and these were people not to be reckoned with.

Here's my video from that day:

https://vimeo.com/2078327

Somewhere there's video of one of the first times protesters showed up at Gold Base, and all the guards were out in force, putting on a great show of being badasses.

Thanks I'mglib

I am assuming the trespassing item was dropped, because it was proven by land registry documents that that exact area was public or county property? Did you ever see the survey doc's and do you know if someone could provide that info here?
(As far as I am concerned fences and posted private property signs in and of themselves are not adequate proof of property boundaries)
I know it is all sort of water under the bridge now, and thus not highly important, but knowing the facts would settle my curiosity.
 

RogerB

Crusader
Roger I want you to praise me, I am a little L Ron Hubbard

AnonKat, my lovely, you are beyond praise . . . you are beloved, honored and respected :p And L. Ron Hubbard merits none of that fine stuff :biggrin:

Does that sum it up??:) :cheers2:

RogerB
 

i'mglib

Patron with Honors
Thanks I'mglib

I am assuming the trespassing item was dropped, because it was proven by land registry documents that that exact area was public or county property? Did you ever see the survey doc's and do you know if someone could provide that info here?
(As far as I am concerned fences and posted private property signs in and of themselves are not adequate proof of property boundaries)
I know it is all sort of water under the bridge now, and thus not highly important, but knowing the facts would settle my curiosity.

AnonOrange did a ton of research with maps etc, and my recollection is that the maps showed he wasn't on their property. Furthermore, I recall that the No Trespassing signs were illegal (either because of size or location or both). I don't have copies, unfortunately. It's possible that the church wanted to argue that they had an easement, but I believe that was complicated by the fact that their alleged easement wasn't the required legal distance from the center of the road. Bottom line is the trespassing charge against him was dropped. As you can see from my video I walked right by him while he was being held down on the ground.
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
Resistance posted the photo (on WWP) where AnonOrange was assaulted in relation to where the van was parked.

aovs3-jpg.27505


I recall AnonOrange & Graham Berry being at the arrest area doing a land survey project (approved by the court in 2008). Graham even spoke to Elliot Abselson who dropped by for a "visit". The trespass charges were dropped due to the cult's failure to post legitimate signs of a particular size & post them in the appropriate places & the question whether over whether the arrest occurred on cult property or not.

Criminal charges are reduced & dropped all the time in court cases; it has nothing to do with the substance of the complaint, but whether a jury would come to the conclusion that the charges were legit & could be proven.

There was evidence to show that the cult claimed county property as their own. So, I erred in claiming AO was legally trespassing. My oops. :)

A video of the arrest & assault on XenuBarb is posted on RuTube after YouTube uploads were taken down.

http://rutube.ru/player.swf?hash=bdcdb2961f3189159436f2b62c4350dc&&referer=

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=29688

Nevertheless, regardless of the actions of Scientology guards, AnonOrange came out on top of all this, not because of any heroism on his part, but due to the hard work & legal smarts of Graham Berry. I suspect the outcome would have been much different of Graham had not taken his case & fought like a bulldog on AO's behalf.

A critic on WWP said it best (before the charges were dropped):

" Me personally? Could care less about AO, just another randomfag who should probably know better. If Graham can get him off then cool, if not I hope his retarded ass didn't just put other people into "harms" way next time they decided to exercise their constitutional rights.

"AO chose to make himself the target, that's where the criticism is going. This goes for AGP. If you stop making shit about you and make it about the cult, none of this blowback happens. But hey they are obviously smarter then me and know how the worlds work." - skeptic337
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Are you done Garry?:eyeroll:

To the readers, as for me and my house, we will always love and respect AnonOrange. No person is perfect. He's done so much good that I just ignore the rest said about him.

He helped make an impact in Riverside County and his perseverence and encouragement brought some of the best critics out to help there. One of many examples of their efforts.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?10773-Riverside-Board-of-Sups-April-07-2009

[video=youtube_share;iAGM8jVm1lc]http://youtu.be/iAGM8jVm1lc[/video]

[video=youtube_share;ct2ni4nBry4]http://youtu.be/ct2ni4nBry4[/video]
 
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AnonKat

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I saw her at an event at Wembley Conference center. She was magnificent
and light and appealing.

Terril you magnificent guy, you get around

I need to live for another 20 years to achieve your wisdom

[video=youtube;K3GkSo3ujSY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GkSo3ujSY[/video]
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
Are you done Garry?:eyeroll:

To the readers, as for me and my house, we will always love and respect AnonOrange. No person is perfect. He's done so much good that I just ignore the rest said about him.

You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine & I take issue with his "doing so much good." The speedo & fishnet stalkings really helped to educate the public about Scilon abuses.

[video=youtube;oCBx3H_pqec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCBx3H_pqec[/video]

I'm still waiting for him to respond to who "forced" him into the predicament he found himself in.

As Doris Day would say, "que sera, sera..whatever will be, will be... "
 
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Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
Excellent video from Karen...

[video=youtube;Pks9lEwfNB8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pks9lEwfNB8[/video]

Sidenote: I was protesting at PAC with Tory Christman & a few others several months ago & came across a gay couple being escorted into ASHO (2 guys were holding hands). I approached them to tell them they were being lied to.. they laughed & told me to "fuck off".

Sometimes, it takes people to hit rock bottom (in more ways than one) to learn a hard lesson.
 

Karen#1

Gold Meritorious Patron
Scientology Inc runs an "Ideal Org" scam, money extortion for INT Landlord Office and CSI. New Video. The scam.


The locals are fleeced, not knowing Radical Official Scientology has amassed a billion dollars in their Building fund. They take out 2nd Trust Deeds and give it to the Church.
Then the Church of Scientology International (CSI) owns the real estate and RENTS it back to the local Church. This money is scammed off the top before staff pay or any other vital needs.
Local. Orgs do not contribute one dime to medical needs of the staff. Run like a business, the Church takes all the privileges of "Religious exemption" while mis-treating staff who get a pittance for pay for long hours. The money goes up the food chain and the lower level fish barely make it.

http://youtu.be/cjPR7AsOPiY
 

aegerprimo

Summa Cum Laude
Scientology Inc runs an "Ideal Org" scam, money extortion for INT Landlord Office and CSI. New Video. The scam.


The locals are fleeced, not knowing Radical Official Scientology has amassed a billion dollars in their Building fund. They take out 2nd Trust Deeds and give it to the Church.
Then the Church of Scientology International (CSI) owns the real estate and RENTS it back to the local Church. This money is scammed off the top before staff pay or any other vital needs.
Local. Orgs do not contribute one dime to medical needs of the staff. Run like a business, the Church takes all the privileges of "Religious exemption" while mis-treating staff who get a pittance for pay for long hours. The money goes up the food chain and the lower level fish barely make it.

BEST VIDEO YET Karen, J. Swift and AGP! :clap: Thank you, and this one holds a special place in my heart as an ex-Sea Org member. :flowers:
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
Scientology Inc runs an "Ideal Org" scam, money extortion for INT Landlord Office and CSI. New Video. The scam.


The locals are fleeced, not knowing Radical Official Scientology has amassed a billion dollars in their Building fund. They take out 2nd Trust Deeds and give it to the Church.
Then the Church of Scientology International (CSI) owns the real estate and RENTS it back to the local Church. This money is scammed off the top before staff pay or any other vital needs.
Local. Orgs do not contribute one dime to medical needs of the staff. Run like a business, the Church takes all the privileges of "Religious exemption" while mis-treating staff who get a pittance for pay for long hours. The money goes up the food chain and the lower level fish barely make it.

http://youtu.be/cjPR7AsOPiY


Yup, old stuff mah dear Karen. Any monies going into the fraud-of-Hubbard, whether for courses, building dono's, auditing, what-ever, the system is designed to lose that money into 'up-lines', never to go down-lines again. It is all part of the rabbit-hole. Dennis B. was instrumental in creating the 'how' to divest and bury any money coming into Hubbard's fucked up cult of lies and fleecing, though money laundering was nothing new to the cult 'elite', old stuff.
It all goes right back to the 'Source', a conflicted charlatan, liar, and thief. Bigamous, woman-beating, ass-wobbling, con-artist.
Hubbard is a horrendous example of 'homo-novis' by any logical standards, I live to revile everything he has done to people, to not do so makes me complacent. There is nothing good that came out of Hubbard's twisted mind, I really hope more figure it out.

:rose:
 
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Terril park

Sponsor
Terril you magnificent guy, you get around

I need to live for another 20 years to achieve your wisdom

[video=youtube;K3GkSo3ujSY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GkSo3ujSY[/video]

Possibly you misunderstood. I meant Diana Hubbard. She was beautiful and
very charismatic.

One might ask "Where is Diana?" Last seen at int base.

I have some wisdom but so do you. Forget years :)
 

Opter

Silver Meritorious Patron
Scientology Inc runs an "Ideal Org" scam, money extortion for INT Landlord Office and CSI. New Video. The scam.


The locals are fleeced, not knowing Radical Official Scientology has amassed a billion dollars in their Building fund. They take out 2nd Trust Deeds and give it to the Church.
Then the Church of Scientology International (CSI) owns the real estate and RENTS it back to the local Church. This money is scammed off the top before staff pay or any other vital needs.
Local. Orgs do not contribute one dime to medical needs of the staff. Run like a business, the Church takes all the privileges of "Religious exemption" while mis-treating staff who get a pittance for pay for long hours. The money goes up the food chain and the lower level fish barely make it.

http://youtu.be/cjPR7AsOPiY







Very cleverly done.:yes::yes::yes:


Loved it.:):)



Opter
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
Best hit yet imho, but, lest we forget to mention, the whole land flipping thingy is one of the biggest money laundering schemes cult of Ron has. It is way worse than anyone can imagine.

They play themselves off as a charitable organization, and it so diametrically opposed to the truth of the matter.

Hey, OSA, COB, and all you demented, deluded SOB's, the winds of change are blowing, just like most of your parishioners, time to take a good look at yourselves.

:nervous:
 

RogerB

Crusader
Yes, this last one is a brilliant exposé of what could be viewed as a fraudulent conversion . . . . the whole thing is a facade of real estate glitz but no honest delivery of service to members or staff . . . . folks are conned into contributing time and money based on one proposition and then LATER getting locked up by arbitrary denials of what was promised and violations of organizational published policy.

Roger
 
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