Letter to staff member...

[Lovesnightsky]

I received this email today with the request that it be posted in as many sites as possible and that people copy/paste it and print it or email it to members of their local Orgs. Can you also post it in other forums you belong to pls?

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Dear Staff Member,
I am a Scientologist just like you, but unlike you I am no longer stuck in the Org working all hours to meet impossible targets sent down from Flag or SH.

I am writing to you because you are still going through the same pressure and unfulfilment I was going through whilst on staff. I too convinced myself I was happy and that I was making a difference. I believed my Org was about to become an Ideal Org and we would finally be paid the wages we deserve and all our hard work would pay off. Unfortunately, as things are, the Orgs will never thrive.

Firstly, I will just say that we humans have an inbuilt powerful tool to protect us. It's called instinct. It's not a voice, it's emotion. If you do something but inside it makes you feel bad, that's a warning from your instinct. The same goes for places and people, you've probably met wogs you didn't like from the beginning who later turned out to be less than wonderful. Well, have you ever met David Miscavige? I have and it was not enjoyable. He is not a wonderful, caring person like you and the other people on staff at your Org. This is not a coincidence. His motives for the use of Scientology are different to yours and mine. He doesn't care about "the greater good".

You may have noticed your life resembles that of a slave, this is no coincidence either.
The only way to fix this is to stop adding to the problem. You can and will make a difference outside of the Church.
We are told that by leaving the Church we are being suppressive, PTS, cowardly, unethical and other such demeaning words. We are also told we will become depressed and fail when we leave. None of this is true. Besides, how many members on staff are truly happy? I don't just mean cheerful, optimistic and usually smiley, I mean deeply happy and satisfied with life. I can tell you I wasn't until I got away from SH and the Org.
If you've read this far I thank you because I know it's not a PL, so you may not believe it as instantly or as unquestioningly.

I know I can't tell you to walk out the door now and never come back. I was on the routing out standard cycle for months; until I realised the standard way is a trap.
I am just asking you to think about your life and also to look out for out-points.

Why are new PL's always being written even though LRH passed away? Who's benefiting, really? Why do OTVIII's become ill?

Just think about these things and take a step towards true freedom.
There's nothing to be afraid of and even if you do leave now, you can ALWAYS come back, believe me.

There's a world out there and you really CAN make a difference.
Happiness starts from within but you can only spread it if you have it.

This is true.

Much Love,

M.E.

 

[Poofy]

IFirstly, I will just say that we humans have an inbuilt powerful tool to protect us. It's called instinct. It's not a voice, it's emotion. If you do something but inside it makes you feel bad, that's a warning from your instinct.

I love that part. Great advice.

 

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

I would like to add to that:

Dear Staff Members and regular church members,

I was told that I would never get my bridge and that I would turn into a rock for eternity or something like that. It was a very shocking and scary statement. But something inside of me said that is not true. That is the "instinct" that one must listen to.

When I exited the Church of Scientology I discovered that the Bridge is more excellently delivered in the Freezone if I so desire it. So, that was a lie. I was also told that my life would go badly from now on.

True, it took some time to recover, financially and spiritually, but I am on a spiritual path that I am in control of, and I am not a slave to anyone's policies. I no longer have to go back and clear my words if I dare to exhibit enough self-determinism to disagree with something Mr. Hubbard said was true.

And the muggles out here are not so bad. I've always loved and cared for the muggles anyway (okay, wogs in Scientologese). That was partly the reason I joined the CofS -- not to be talking about them with scorn.

For whatever pure and sincere reason you joined the CofS you will find it again when you leave.

 

[Terril park]

There's a world out there and you really CAN make a difference.
Happiness starts from within but you can only spread it if you have it.

This is true.

Much Love,

M.E.

Redundent on FZ forums. Her letter pretty well expresses the common view.

She want to be connected with FZers in the UK I can help. She wants to be connected to the UK critics PM or Mail hartley Patterson. Or I can help as
he posts rarely.

Made a spare FZ Picket sign for sunday. She can hold it if she's interested.
Will tell those inside where to get info on tech outside COS.

 

[sandygirl]

One of the best "tricks" the church has up it's sleeve is to act like anyone who is having bad experiences -whether staff or public- is the ONLY ONE!

Everyone else is winning like crazy!
You MUST be out-ethics-hiding an overt/WH-or in lower conditions because NO ONE else sees what you see!!!!

I almost bought it-thank god for instinct and the internet!!!

 

[Lovesnightsky]

Redundent on FZ forums. Her letter pretty well expresses the common view.

She want to be connected with FZers in the UK I can help. She wants to be connected to the UK critics PM or Mail hartley Patterson. Or I can help as
he posts rarely.

Made a spare FZ Picket sign for sunday. She can hold it if she's interested.
Will tell those inside where to get info on tech outside COS.

I think the idea here is that people in the FZ print out the letter and send it to their local orgs, or email it to them.

 

[Terril park]

I think the idea here is that people in the FZ print out the letter and send it to their local orgs, or email it to them.

Don't work.

HCO interepts all comm.

Lol

Ok.

Ex HCO sec , ex cope officer, Ex ED ( real brief) ex COS member.

Should add ex NED interne. Am too rusty after so many years.

Ex / Cuurrent/ OEC / FEBC. Still interning. Go figure.

Yeah, love hate relation with green on white.

Conclusion here, prime policies need emphasis. First, senior and service.

I'm happy to answer any questions on these, or any green on white.

My personal credo is give service.

Mostly I just have fun. Anyone needs service I'll be
happy to try and help.

 

[Lovesnightsky]

Don't work.

HCO interepts all comm.

<snip>

HCO are staff

 

[Cat's Squirrel]

I received this email today with the request that it be posted in as many sites as possible and that people copy/paste it and print it or email it to members of their local Orgs. Can you also post it in other forums you belong to pls?

-----------------

Dear Staff Member,
I am a Scientologist just like you, but unlike you I am no longer stuck in the Org working all hours to meet impossible targets sent down from Flag or SH.

I am writing to you because you are still going through the same pressure and unfulfilment I was going through whilst on staff. I too convinced myself I was happy and that I was making a difference. I believed my Org was about to become an Ideal Org and we would finally be paid the wages we deserve and all our hard work would pay off. Unfortunately, as things are, the Orgs will never thrive.

Firstly, I will just say that we humans have an inbuilt powerful tool to protect us. It's called instinct. It's not a voice, it's emotion. If you do something but inside it makes you feel bad, that's a warning from your instinct. The same goes for places and people, you've probably met wogs you didn't like from the beginning who later turned out to be less than wonderful. Well, have you ever met David Miscavige? I have and it was not enjoyable. He is not a wonderful, caring person like you and the other people on staff at your Org. This is not a coincidence. His motives for the use of Scientology are different to yours and mine. He doesn't care about "the greater good".

You may have noticed your life resembles that of a slave, this is no coincidence either.
The only way to fix this is to stop adding to the problem. You can and will make a difference outside of the Church.
We are told that by leaving the Church we are being suppressive, PTS, cowardly, unethical and other such demeaning words. We are also told we will become depressed and fail when we leave. None of this is true. Besides, how many members on staff are truly happy? I don't just mean cheerful, optimistic and usually smiley, I mean deeply happy and satisfied with life. I can tell you I wasn't until I got away from SH and the Org.
If you've read this far I thank you because I know it's not a PL, so you may not believe it as instantly or as unquestioningly.

I know I can't tell you to walk out the door now and never come back. I was on the routing out standard cycle for months; until I realised the standard way is a trap.
I am just asking you to think about your life and also to look out for out-points.

Why are new PL's always being written even though LRH passed away? Who's benefiting, really? Why do OTVIII's become ill?

Just think about these things and take a step towards true freedom.
There's nothing to be afraid of and even if you do leave now, you can ALWAYS come back, believe me.

There's a world out there and you really CAN make a difference.
Happiness starts from within but you can only spread it if you have it.

This is true.

Much Love,

M.E.

Yeah, I think this is a good letter but there would be difficulties in getting this past the Org filters; pity because it's the sort of thing staff need to see IMO.

 

[Rene Descartes]

Although I cannot complain and say anything that contradicts all the ideas that are presented above I can say this

1) You are all SPs. You are bad mouthing the Church of Scientology and showing your support for the Freezone which in the Church's mindset is a suppressive organization. Then again the idea of SP in this sense is truly meaningless.

2) Despite all of the theta "intentions" the above would be interpreted as entheta to any staff memebr reading it. I am not saying that this is bad. I mean perhaps it might make them think for a second and plant that seed of doubt. As the above does not bad mouth their religion and only the organization itself it cannot be considered to be attacking a religion.

3) All of the above could potentially cave-in the staff member and totally invalidate all of their hard work. We don't want them going PTS and getting sick because that will make it harder for them to get their stats. At least tell them how much you admire them for their hard work and dedication, better yet tell them you love them and will gladly cook them pizza and chili and deliver it to their desk in exchange for a smile and a "thank you".

4) There is no mention of the insanity that exists within the Church mindset regarding Psychiatry.

Goo night

Rd00

 

[Lovesnightsky]

Although I cannot complain and say anything that contradicts all the ideas that are presented above I can say this

1) You are all SPs. You are bad mouthing the Church of Scientology and showing your support for the Freezone which in the Church's mindset is a suppressive organization. Then again the idea of SP in this sense is truly meaningless.

2) Despite all of the theta "intentions" the above would be interpreted as entheta to any staff memebr reading it. I am not saying that this is bad. I mean perhaps it might make them think for a second and plant that seed of doubt. As the above does not bad mouth their religion and only the organization itself it cannot be considered to be attacking a religion.

3) All of the above could potentially cave-in the staff member and totally invalidate all of their hard work. We don't want them going PTS and getting sick because that will make it harder for them to get their stats. At least tell them how much you admire them for their hard work and dedication, better yet tell them you love them and will gladly cook them pizza and chili and deliver it to their desk in exchange for a smile and a "thank you".

4) There is no mention of the insanity that exists within the Church mindset regarding Psychiatry.

Goo night

Rd00

And... It's also on video!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqlCFvzX7XQ

 

[gomorrhan]

Although I cannot complain and say anything that contradicts all the ideas that are presented above I can say this

1) You are all SPs. You are bad mouthing the Church of Scientology and showing your support for the Freezone which in the Church's mindset is a suppressive organization. Then again the idea of SP in this sense is truly meaningless.

SPs? I've been declared such. However, the organization doing the declare is a group found guilty of espionage, blackmail, fraud, etc., which employs child labor, targets its critics, and was founded by a con-man and liar whose expressed aim was to smash his name into history and make all men his slaves. I'm not too worried about their pronouncements. I, personally, would choose the FreeZone over the Church of Scientology, absolutely, but I don't actually lend my support to either. Bad mouthing the Church is a moral responsibility for those perceiving it's many evils.

2) Despite all of the theta "intentions" the above would be interpreted as entheta to any staff memebr reading it. I am not saying that this is bad. I mean perhaps it might make them think for a second and plant that seed of doubt. As the above does not bad mouth their religion and only the organization itself it cannot be considered to be attacking a religion.

If staff members ever saw this, they probably wouldn't "buy" it, but they might. As you say, it could produce a seed of doubt. In my case, when critical information made it to me, it did produce a seed of doubt, which flowered completely in me, because I have the courage of my convictions, and I watered it dutifully.

3) All of the above could potentially cave-in the staff member and totally invalidate all of their hard work. We don't want them going PTS and getting sick because that will make it harder for them to get their stats. At least tell them how much you admire them for their hard work and dedication, better yet tell them you love them and will gladly cook them pizza and chili and deliver it to their desk in exchange for a smile and a "thank you".

PTSness is caused by Suppression (in theory). Providing accurate information is not Suppression. Thus, this won't cause PTSness, though it may cause uncertainty and doubt. They aren't the same thing. People "in lowers" aren't necessarily PTS. It may help to indicate to the person that they are, in fact, in doubt. This is what it did for me. I didn't feel suppressed by anyone but the people PREVENTING me from working it all out, and those people were actually the ETHICS OFFICERS AND HCO PERSONNEL, who tried to interpret things always in favor of the Church, when I read them quite differently, and many others will, also, when they are honest with themselves. Encouraging them with food or drink for their hard work would imply that you valued what they were working towards. I don't. I value them as beings, but I won't encourage or help them.

4) There is no mention of the insanity that exists within the Church mindset regarding Psychiatry.

Why would there be?

Goo night

Rd00

Good night.

 

[Rene Descartes]

In theory - (but only theory of course)

There is a question "Has anyone invalidated Scientology?"

It is spoken while a person is on the meter.

People have been know to go PTS upon hearing Scientology get invalidated.

In theory of course.

In real life it might be called something else.

As for the Psychs...

Would it hurt to add it?

My speculation is that it would help.

You've been declared?

Wow, My balls are not that big.

Rd00

 

[gomorrhan]

People don't go PTS to anything but Suppression. What you are talking about is having a "stable datum" invalidated. The person considers scientology or Hubbard their stable datum, and when they hear it invalidated, they feel like they are diving off a cliff. This isn't because they are PTS, it's because something they thought was so, ain't so. By stable datum, of course, I mean something that the person thought they could rely upon as being true, unchanging, etc. My solution for this wouldn't be a PTS handling, it would be a locational. Now: do suppressives invalidate other people's stable data? Perhaps. Could a suppressive cause someone to "worsen" by doing this? Again, perhaps. But that's another story, and has more to do with their intention to harm than it does with the invalidation of a stable datum, which is actually helpful, if that stable datum is not truely factual or real.

As to what the Church is doing with the question "Has anyone invalidated Scientology", well, that seems pretty clear to me: they are trying to control the mind of the person, and discovering who it is that is obstructing their efforts to do so, such that they can cause the person to disconnect from that "terminal", and regain control over the subject's mind.

 

[Cat's Squirrel]

People don't go PTS to anything but Suppression. What you are talking about is having a "stable datum" invalidated. The person considers scientology or Hubbard their stable datum, and when they hear it invalidated, they feel like they are diving off a cliff. This isn't because they are PTS, it's because something they thought was so, ain't so. By stable datum, of course, I mean something that the person thought they could rely upon as being true, unchanging, etc. My solution for this wouldn't be a PTS handling, it would be a locational. Now: do suppressives invalidate other people's stable data? Perhaps. Could a suppressive cause someone to "worsen" by doing this? Again, perhaps. But that's another story, and has more to do with their intention to harm than it does with the invalidation of a stable datum, which is actually helpful, if that stable datum is not truely factual or real.

As to what the Church is doing with the question "Has anyone invalidated Scientology", well, that seems pretty clear to me: they are trying to control the mind of the person, and discovering who it is that is obstructing their efforts to do so, such that they can cause the person to disconnect from that "terminal", and regain control over the subject's mind.

Yeah, and the Church deliberately conflates itself with Scientology technology; hence they don't allow any responses of the sort that say, "the Tech is great, but policy sucks."

As Pilot once said, most long term Scientologists are there because the tech works well enough that most of them will have had at least one big gain. It makes no sense therefore to try and tell them that the whole thing is a crock of s**t, because their own experience has told them different. You have to be more selective and tell them what you think is wrong with the existing setup. whilst not invalidating the positive aspects which they will have observed for themselves.

 

[Rene Descartes]

People don't go PTS to anything but Suppression. What you are talking about is having a "stable datum" invalidated. The person considers scientology or Hubbard their stable datum, and when they hear it invalidated, they feel like they are diving off a cliff. This isn't because they are PTS, it's because something they thought was so, ain't so. By stable datum, of course, I mean something that the person thought they could rely upon as being true, unchanging, etc. My solution for this wouldn't be a PTS handling, it would be a locational. Now: do suppressives invalidate other people's stable data? Perhaps. Could a suppressive cause someone to "worsen" by doing this? Again, perhaps. But that's another story, and has more to do with their intention to harm than it does with the invalidation of a stable datum, which is actually helpful, if that stable datum is not truely factual or real.

As to what the Church is doing with the question "Has anyone invalidated Scientology", well, that seems pretty clear to me: they are trying to control the mind of the person, and discovering who it is that is obstructing their efforts to do so, such that they can cause the person to disconnect from that "terminal", and regain control over the subject's mind.

Yeah right! Like nobody has ever been (in theory) suppressed by having stable datums invalidated.

Message for those suppressives who can not confront the idea of actually literally suppressing somebody...

You have no chance. Give up. The game is over. You will never be able to bring about suppression and/or PTS on anybody.

Rd00

 

[Free to shine]

As Pilot once said, most long term Scientologists are there because the tech works well enough that most of them will have had at least one big gain. It makes no sense therefore to try and tell them that the whole thing is a crock of s**t, because their own experience has told them different. You have to be more selective and tell them what you think is wrong with the existing setup. whilst not invalidating the positive aspects which they will have observed for themselves.

No, most long term people are there because they have too much of their life invested to admit it is a con. Plus the threats of disconnection and so on. I am talking from 40 years of experience.

 

[Lovesnightsky]

No, most long term people are there because they have too much of their life invested to admit it is a con. Plus the threats of disconnection and so on. I am talking from 40 years of experience.

I agree.
Once you have invested so much of your life, admitting to yourself or others that it's a con is very much a stopper. What we have to do is get through to them that it's ok to have been wrong for 40 years, only now matters.

 

[gomorrhan]

I can't speak to "most", but I can say that the people I know who are scientologists today, who were scientologists many years ago as well, have had permanent, lasting gains of one kind or another. They may well be aware that parts of the organization or sales stuff are a setup or a scam, but they also know that something resolved for them, using scientology. My ex had a profound change in the way she communicated that made her suddenly able to socialize, when previously she'd been largely an introvert and unable to make herself understood, after objectives, and I had a friend whose younger brother was hit by a car, was listing badly and not recovering (getting worse), and had three sessions of dianetics and made what was considered a miraculous and amazing recovery quickly after these. I'm not saying this happens with all scientologists, just the one's I know who I'm sure won't ever leave, because they feel they KNOW that scientology works, whether people are price gouging or whatever else is going on. You'll have better luck trying to convince these people to reform their Church than convincing them that scientology is bunk.

 

[Zinjifar]

I grew 6" since becomming a Zinjifarian! I've learned to drive a car, build a house, pet a cat and play a guitar (badly); all through the wonders of Zinjifarianism!

Thank you Zinj!

Zinj