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JackStraw

JackStraw

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To quote myself (explains much, I think)

This bit of lecture always fascinated me:

From lecture "Introduction: The Q List and Beginning of Logics", 10 Nov 1952,
The Perception of Truth transscript page 9

"My own philosophy, my own method of existing is far, far different, perhaps in many cases that the data itself, because I've selected out, after all, certain randomities.

"There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe.
I've decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply to go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients
well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them on the head, and you've got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there's no randomity there. No randomity at all.

"There never going to hurt a preclear, really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy-you can pick them up in the next
life and they'll be as good as new."

So, all this anti-psych stuff, all the world's (universe's) problems were caused by psychs etc. is all becaus Ron wanted a little randomity in his life.

Thanks, Greatest Friend of Mankind!

Jack
 
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Moonchild

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Hubbard's disdain for 'psychs' seems quite easy to explain; after his early attempts to ingratiate himself with 'established' psychoanalytical schools met with resounding failure he became well-aware that conventional psychological practice would assess him (in a matter of minutes probably) as an obvious text-book 'paranoid schizophrenic'...delusions of grandeur, persecution mania and all.

These were the people that could unravel his plans, therefore they had to be cast as the 'hated enemy', and all the nonsense that followed to support that view.

Simples, no?
 
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JackStraw said:
To quote myself (explains much, I think)

This bit of lecture always fascinated me:

From lecture "Introduction: The Q List and Beginning of Logics", 10 Nov 1952,
The Perception of Truth transscript page 9

"My own philosophy, my own method of existing is far, far different, perhaps in many cases that the data itself, because I've selected out, after all, certain randomities.

"There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe.
I've decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply to go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients
well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them on the head, and you've got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there's no randomity there. No randomity at all.

"There never going to hurt a preclear, really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy-you can pick them up in the next
life and they'll be as good as new."

So, all this anti-psych stuff, all the world's (universe's) problems were caused by psychs etc. is all becaus Ron wanted a little randomity in his life.

Thanks, Greatest Friend of Mankind!

Jack
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And in their "next life" they'll be "as good as new"?
So what about all that past life auditing, whole track, key-in, etc? More con-tra dick shon from ron.
 
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Moonchild said:
Hubbard's disdain for 'psychs' seems quite easy to explain; after his early attempts to ingratiate himself with 'established' psychoanalytical schools met with resounding failure he became well-aware that conventional psychological practice would assess him (in a matter of minutes probably) as an obvious text-book 'paranoid schizophrenic'...delusions of grandeur, persecution mania and all.

These were the people that could unravel his plans, therefore they had to be cast as the 'hated enemy', and all the nonsense that followed to support that view.

Simples, no?
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Not to mention, they diagnosed him as a bit nuts.
 
Veda

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The last paragraph of the 1938 "flap material" quote contains Hubbard's earliest known expression of disdain for psychiatrists. It's only speculation, but it would seem possible, or even likely, that Hubbard received a formal or informal negative evaluation from a psychologist or psychiatrist at an early age, and, as a result, harbored resentment ever since.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=11732&postcount=1
 
Doom

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In the last few months from what I read it looks like LRH Hated almost everyone, Guess he had overts on almost everyone on the planet (maybe he was Xenu).:whistling:
 
Veda

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JackStraw said:
To quote myself (explains much, I think)

This bit of lecture always fascinated me:

From lecture "Introduction: The Q List and Beginning of Logics", 10 Nov 1952,
The Perception of Truth transscript page 9

-snip for brevity -

"There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe.
I've decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply to go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients
well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them on the head, and you've got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there's no randomity there. No randomity at all.

"There never going to hurt a preclear, really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy-you can pick them up in the next
life and they'll be as good as new."

-snip-
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Keep in mind that Hubbard was high on drugs and sometimes alcohol during at least some of these lectures. He may have briefly "risen above the bank" with the help of some pharmaceutical grade injected cocaine.

"You should be able to drink as much as you want, use the body in any way you want." PDC lectures, November, 1952
 
Gib

Gib

Crusader
JackStraw said:
To quote myself (explains much, I think)

This bit of lecture always fascinated me:

From lecture "Introduction: The Q List and Beginning of Logics", 10 Nov 1952,
The Perception of Truth transscript page 9

"My own philosophy, my own method of existing is far, far different, perhaps in many cases that the data itself, because I've selected out, after all, certain randomities.

"There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe.
I've decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply to go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients
well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them on the head, and you've got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there's no randomity there. No randomity at all.

"There never going to hurt a preclear, really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy-you can pick them up in the next
life and they'll be as good as new."

So, all this anti-psych stuff, all the world's (universe's) problems were caused by psychs etc. is all becaus Ron wanted a little randomity in his life.

Thanks, Greatest Friend of Mankind!

Jack
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Funny Jack Straw, I left in 2012 and started posting here in 2012, and you made your post in 2009. And having done part of "the basics" that DM promoted within the scientology bubble, that everybody had to spend money and time and be on course, listening to LRH tell it all,

why I remembered that lecture, his speech, that LRH said as you quoted. I even made a few posts about it and actually included uploaded pictures of the the transcript lecture as proof, since it was still fresh in my mind, at the time I posted such a few years back.

Hubbard's own words:
"My own philosophy, my own method of existing is far, far different, perhaps in many cases that the data itself, because I've selected out, after all, certain randomities.

"There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe.
I've decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply to go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients
well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them on the head, and you've got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there's no randomity there. No randomity at all.

"There never going to hurt a preclear, really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy-you can pick them up in the next
life and they'll be as good as new."
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So here even Hubbard says he doesn't follow his own advice. LOL and WTF. What an asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I really wish some well known names in scientology would get a clue it's just hubbard's positioning, marketing PL's, scripture. Lisa Marie Presley still has on her website the CCHR link. WTF. Does she not realize that Hubbard used every literary device known to man to persaude, or change opinions or minds?

http://lisamariepresley.com/philanthropy-side/cchr
 
Helena Handbasket

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JackStraw said:
... From lecture "Introduction: The Q List and Beginning of Logics" ... "There [sic] never going to hurt a preclear, really. I can rave and rant about electric shock and prefrontal lobotomy-you can pick them up in the next life and they'll be as good as new." ...
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degraded being said:
And in their "next life" they'll be "as good as new"?
So what about all that past life auditing, whole track, key-in, etc? More con-tra dick shon from ron.
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Electroshock is brain damage, among other things. In the next life, they have a different body, and so any damage is gone -- like a rusty car traded in for a new one.

The emotional damage, however, remains. But it's a lot easier to address this if you don't also have physical disabilities to deal with at the same time.

And while "starting over" can mean a new accumulation of charge, much of whatever was removed before stays removed. I myself expect to start the next lifetime in MUCH better shape than I started this one.

In spite of all the bad things said about ECT, "they" say it "works". Why? Because it chases away BT's. I'd rather do solo auditing.

Helena
 
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Knows

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I think it would be fairly safe to say...

THE PSYCH'S could have cared less about LRH or his evil cult...and still don't


I have asked a few PSYCH's about the con man...and they have NEVER HEARD OF HIM....:yes::lol:
 
The_Fixer

The_Fixer

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Knows said:
I think it would be fairly safe to say...

THE PSYCH'S could have cared less about LRH or his evil cult...and still don't


I have asked a few PSYCH's about the con man...and they have NEVER HEARD OF HIM....:yes::lol:
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You mean to say all the blather that emanated from him and he still never even made enough noise to be noticed? :confused2:
 
Gib

Gib

Crusader
Helena Handbasket said:
Electroshock is brain damage, among other things. In the next life, they have a different body, and so any damage is gone -- like a rusty car traded in for a new one.

The emotional damage, however, remains. But it's a lot easier to address this if you don't also have physical disabilities to deal with at the same time.

And while "starting over" can mean a new accumulation of charge, much of whatever was removed before stays removed. I myself expect to start the next lifetime in MUCH better shape than I started this one.

In spite of all the bad things said about ECT, "they" say it "works". Why? Because it chases away BT's. I'd rather do solo auditing.

Helena
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Hubbard said the brain was a shock absorber. How can it relate to engrams?

But what about hubbard saying this?

"There are certain things which I have decided to be mad at in this universe.

I've decided to be mad at psychiatrists. There is no reason why I should be mad at psychiatrists. Really, the sensible thing for me to do about psychiatrists is simply to go over and talk to them, make a couple of patients
well, show them how they can make bigger fees, pat them on the head, and you've got Dianetics and psychiatry. But there's no randomity there. No randomity at all."
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If hubbard's technology worked, then why should he allow the psych's to do what they did?

Wouldn't mankind's greatest friend set the pscych's straight by showing them how to do what they the pysch's got wrong? And only Ron solved.

It doesn't seem right to me that mankind's greatest friend would allow psych's to ECT or allow humans to suffer from such things just because he Hubbard wanted some randomity. Do you?
 
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