programmer_guy
True Ex-Scientologist
Yes, I agree. I suspect that one or more script writers were assigned to this.
Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking
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Yes, I agree. I suspect that one or more script writers were assigned to this.
Leland
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Well I can't watch any more of these.
It's like watching a sickness unfold to see a man this mentally twisted up. He MUST take apart the book, line by line, he's obsessed with every line of it, but he's not even thinking, just spouting old fictional Scientology propaganda lines that are easily disproven, that he himself has disproven , not to mention countless other exes and actual documentation that disproves him.
Barf.
His face is bland and blank. No animation beyond the occasional look up, like a beaten dog hoping he'd served his master well and now half-wags his tail, "That was good, though, wasn't it, master? Wasn't it?"Only to get some silent internal half-acknowledgement, "Keep going..." as he returns to his propaganda lines in this dogged task to which he committed himself. Line by line by line by line, through the book he tediously reads and spouts any vague disagreement he can. MUST... FINISH ... BOOK!
Whether the evil master is just in his head or not, we can't quite see. But it is real to Marty, so he continues.
So this is the great, "Rue the day?" Marty threatened?
He started on this course at least 1-1/2 years ago.
And Alanzo figured out he was used as a tool in some bizarre, insane caper, just to be discarded when he no longer served.
Folks want to make some sort of rational sense of this. Maybe somewhere in there, there's some sort of twisted logic. A payoff, blackmail, something.
But even if there is (and there probably is), this is how it was always going to go. Marty never could live without schemes within schemes within schemes. He always needed enemies to blame, even if it meant targetting his friends. I think he made a half-hearted effort for a bit, but he was never completely honest with himself, about himself. Common, accepted moral codes didn't apply to him. He was above that.
It's not exactly sad, unless he has a brain tumor. It is pathetic, though, seeing him try to snap right back to his full, amoral self and watching him, knowing he is quite aware that the pieces he recites don't fit. That doesn't stop him from trying to force it, though. Must get back to his old self.
Bye, Marty.It was a good lesson in what happens to people who think they are above truth and integrity, if nothing else.
Sheila, your take on Marty's condition is well put.
It reminds me of that kid that was just released from a North Korean prison yesterday....and a Doctor said he had be brutalized and was in a "Coma of Wakefullness....." or something like that. Just weird.
But I for one have also experienced intense "mental pressure" for years now....since leaving the Cult....
So, I can really get what you are saying....
I haven't watched any of the videos......just don't want to.
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JustSheila
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David MIscavige is obsessed and SCARED TO DEATH about losing that tax exemption... Marty is only a fool ... a stupid pawn - getting his blood money in exchange for his "recantings" / LIES
https://youtu.be/_uumuuQm5eQ
Oh, I get what you're saying. I just don't think he plays well for any team. Marty plays whatever side he thinks has the most to offer at that moment. He's done that for decades, whether he was in or out, Indie or ex, Scn or New Age pseudo-truth seeker.
He said the stupid shit. He didn't say he ever lied. He didn't even say that he never was in a position to know what went on in the UK in the 70s, oh no! Because the first rule of a narcissist is to serve his ego.
So don't think COS got what they wanted out of Marty's dumbo robot vids, either. It's pathetically inadequate to counter the details and statements he provided earlier, much of which was court testimony. It's not that Marty did it out of any good guy idea, either. He is a NARCISSIST. Marty serves Marty and he won't say one word to make himself sound any less of a big shot. He can contradict himself, but never contradict what a big shot he was. Never. Marty serves Marty and that's all, folks!
[video=youtube;15JssBJf1xo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15JssBJf1xo[/video]
JustSheila
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I get what you mean.
Yeh, what I said was dark. Cringeworthy, I know. Glenda gets it, too, Leland, the hideous darkness of scn, the vacating of the person's actual personality and identity. How Marty turned out, a personality of lies, and losing himself completely in it, just for power, money and ego.
Truth is light and life. Lies are the opposite. The ultimate state is to be the person inside who is exactly what and who you express on the outside. People that take the opposite route for power and glory, well - it costs them. Dearly. That's my philosophy, but objectively, I've seen a lot of that in IRL, too. It's never quite the movie ending, more like the lies taking on a life of their own within a person, gobbling him up until there's nothing left but facades.
Dark. Cringeworthy. and... what absolute vanity, selfishness and disregard for others actually does to a person.
But Leland - there is also the opposite. Truth, light and life.
Sorry for the diversion...
CommunicatorIC
@IndieScieNews on Twitter
No. 15 is up.
Mimsey Borogrove
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OMG how did you know! I thought I was being covert in my role as Supreme Rulah!
Glenda
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TrevAnon
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Free Being Me
Crusader
Here's the check payment scheme near as I can reckon. An offshore account at the Cayman Islands sends funds to Barbados, which in turn sends funds to the Bahamas. Funds are then wired to Tony O., Emma, Karen, Hoax, Mike R, and Leah's individual Swiss Bank accounts, who in turn then send checks to all the Ex's who're members of The Nefarious Cabal.
If you haven't received your check for this month private message Hoax using your Nefarious Cabal super secret encoder-decoder ring.
Hail Ming.
If you haven't received your check for this month private message Hoax using your Nefarious Cabal super secret encoder-decoder ring.
Hail Ming.
Glenda
Crusader
I am going to need to clay demo this. I will need arrows. Lots of them. And purses full of money, lots of it.
I seriously need my big farmer cheque so I can buy some new pearls so I can maintain all this pearl-clutching with dignity.
programmer_guy
True Ex-Scientologist
Ha! You didn't tell us how Marty is being payed for relating the general topic script that he was given by CofS.
It's sorta like a "reality TV show" where the part is dictated but not every single word is dictated (some words exactly scripted and some words not).
Free Being Me
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Alrighty then, I found an explanatory visual aid. Destroy this graph immediately after committing it to memory. Who knows what chaos Mah-T might wreak if he saw this super secret confidential information.I am going to need to clay demo this. I will need arrows. Lots of them. And purses full of money, lots of it.
I seriously need my big farmer cheque so I can buy some new pearls so I can maintain all this pearl-clutching with dignity.
No time for that.
Got to get his stats up and Thursday 2pm comes quicker than you think!
I have to wonder how Monique is doing under all this reversal of position. It looks like a very unpalatable thing to subject his family to.
Edited to add: Just watched Tory's video above mentioning the same point.
I know that a lot of people like to defend Monique or want her to be left out of the fray but I think she shares responsibility for this fiasco.
Type4_PTS
Diamond Invictus SP
Without knowing exactly how the whole thing went down i tend to give Monique a pass.
I've never heard anyone who's ever met her have an unkind word for her without any exceptions.
And all I've heard was very positive.
We know that that's not the case with Marty!
CommunicatorIC
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Sorry, no.Without knowing exactly how the whole thing went down i tend to give Monique a pass.
I've never heard anyone who's ever met her have an unkind word for her without any exceptions.
And all I've heard was very positive.
We know that that's not the case with Marty!
Monique was the only plaintiff in her lawsuit. Only Monique could dismiss the lawsuit.
If was Monique who signed the following statement submitted to the Texas Supreme Court throwing her attorneys under the bus:
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“I do not have the resources, the time, nor the motivation to litigate in the Supreme Court of Texas against Scientology’s army of lawyers in the defense of errors made by attorneys who subordinated my wishes in favor of interests inimical to my own,”
* * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * *
That was a major attack on both the competency and integrity of her attorneys. Monique's attorneys did NOT deserve that. Period. Perhaps most importantly, it was completely unnecessary legally. No explanation nor excuse was required to dismiss the lawsuit. She could have simply said that she wanted to dismiss the action, or was tired of litigating the action.
You think that is a "nice" person?
Further, IF (and please notice I stress the word "IF") Monique and Marty received and/or are receiving compensation for the dismissal of her lawsuit disguised as payment for Marty's services, it was Monique who had a legal, moral and ethical duty to pay her attorney their contingent fees. Period.
Finally, Monique was and is a competent, well-educated adult (e.g., a nurse). We are not talking about a child, incompetent person, uneducated person, or even a young, inexperienced adult.
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ThetanExterior
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When people make lists of books about scientology there are a lot of excellent titles available but Marty's books rarely make an impression. For someone who considers himself to be the biggest name to have defected this must be a big blow to his ego.
Then there are the TV programs. Marty has done nothing but whine about Going Clear and Louis Theroux's documentary, both of which featured Marty, yet there has been universal praise for Mike Rinder in Leah's shows. This must also be getting to him.
According to Alanzo, Marty said recently: "I just don't care anymore" or words to that effect.
I think these videos may be part of a settlement wth the CofS but they may also be a way to slime as many people as possible before he disappears from the scientology scene. If so, expect more videos sliming anyone who is a prominent critic of the CofS.
Then there are the TV programs. Marty has done nothing but whine about Going Clear and Louis Theroux's documentary, both of which featured Marty, yet there has been universal praise for Mike Rinder in Leah's shows. This must also be getting to him.
According to Alanzo, Marty said recently: "I just don't care anymore" or words to that effect.
I think these videos may be part of a settlement wth the CofS but they may also be a way to slime as many people as possible before he disappears from the scientology scene. If so, expect more videos sliming anyone who is a prominent critic of the CofS.
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