Members of the Nation of Islam are practicing the religion of Scientology
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I am cross-posting this here for three reasons. First, because Scientology's allies and partners the Nation of Islam and Minister Louis Farrakhan play a prominent role. Second, because "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews," the three book series constantly promoted by Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad, also plays a prominent role. Third, because, like it or not, deservedly or not, the ideas and ideology of Scientology's allies and partners the Nation of Islam and Minister Farrakhan have influence.
New York Times: Women’s March Roiled by Accusations of Anti-Semitism
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/23/us/womens-march-anti-semitism.html
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Ms. Mallory, meanwhile, who is now co-president of the Women’s March group, has been criticized for attending an event by Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam who has been widely reviled for making anti-Semitic remarks. Ms. Mallory has called Mr. Farrakhan “the GOAT,” or “greatest of all time,” on social media.
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She said she went home that night and searched Google to read about the Jewish role in the slave trade. Up popped a review of “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and the Jews,” a 1991 book by Mr. Farrakhan, which asserts that Jews were especially culpable. Henry Louis Gates Jr., a Harvard professor, has called the book the “bible of the new anti-Semitism.”
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And then there is this from today. Again, the point is that the Women's March is having to address its relationship with the Nation of Islam and Minister Farrakhan. The Church of Scientology has not.
Chicago Tribune: Chicago nixes next Women's March amid growing rift over anti-Semitism claims against national group
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...-global-march-womens-wave-20181225-story.html
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The Final Call, the official newspaper of the Nation of Islam, is not happy.
Jewish liars assault Women’s March co-founders, attack Farrakhan to protect power, privilege and White women
https://www.finalcall.com/artman/pu...protect-power-privilege-and-White-women.shtml
New York Times: Women’s March Roiled by Accusations of Anti-Semitism
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/23/us/womens-march-anti-semitism.html
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Ms. Mallory, meanwhile, who is now co-president of the Women’s March group, has been criticized for attending an event by Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam who has been widely reviled for making anti-Semitic remarks. Ms. Mallory has called Mr. Farrakhan “the GOAT,” or “greatest of all time,” on social media.
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She said she went home that night and searched Google to read about the Jewish role in the slave trade. Up popped a review of “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and the Jews,” a 1991 book by Mr. Farrakhan, which asserts that Jews were especially culpable. Henry Louis Gates Jr., a Harvard professor, has called the book the “bible of the new anti-Semitism.”
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And then there is this from today. Again, the point is that the Women's March is having to address its relationship with the Nation of Islam and Minister Farrakhan. The Church of Scientology has not.
Chicago Tribune: Chicago nixes next Women's March amid growing rift over anti-Semitism claims against national group
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...-global-march-womens-wave-20181225-story.html
EDITED AGAIN TO ADD:
The Final Call, the official newspaper of the Nation of Islam, is not happy.
Jewish liars assault Women’s March co-founders, attack Farrakhan to protect power, privilege and White women
https://www.finalcall.com/artman/pu...protect-power-privilege-and-White-women.shtml
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the man stepping out as the video begins Is Remus Muhammad..he runs the Inglewood CC....Nayyirah references Remus in the video:
this event is at the Inglewood CC..
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Tony Ortega has a major story on this subject.
Nation of Islam takes a bigoted swipe at Leah Remini and the ‘Jews’ behind her show
https://tonyortega.org/2018/12/26/n...-at-leah-remini-and-the-jews-behind-her-show/
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[Tony] Muhammad was apparently unhappy that Leah talked about funding his progress on the “Bridge to Total Freedom.” Five days after the show aired, he told an assembled crowd at the Muhammad Mosque No. 27 in Los Angeles that Remini had lied about him and about Minister Louis Farrakhan.
He also said her show had an ulterior motive: “Now she’s talking against the church, because the Jews want to use that against the Nation.”
You’ll see some other things in these two segments from the talk that should make you wince. Muhammad is quite a piece of work.
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Nation of Islam takes a bigoted swipe at Leah Remini and the ‘Jews’ behind her show
https://tonyortega.org/2018/12/26/n...-at-leah-remini-and-the-jews-behind-her-show/
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[Tony] Muhammad was apparently unhappy that Leah talked about funding his progress on the “Bridge to Total Freedom.” Five days after the show aired, he told an assembled crowd at the Muhammad Mosque No. 27 in Los Angeles that Remini had lied about him and about Minister Louis Farrakhan.
He also said her show had an ulterior motive: “Now she’s talking against the church, because the Jews want to use that against the Nation.”
You’ll see some other things in these two segments from the talk that should make you wince. Muhammad is quite a piece of work.
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guanoloco
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To think that I used to fall for similar rhetoric.
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The Strange and Secret Ties Between Scientology And Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.
Trigtent: The Strange and Secret Ties Between Scientology And Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam
https://www.trigtent.com/usa/strang...scientology-and-louis-farrakhans-nation-islam
BAILEY STEEN DEC 22, 2018 11:00 AM
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Scientology whistleblower Leah Remini has disclosed the strange relationship between the cult of Scientology and Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam. In the latest episode of her television program Scientology and the Aftermath, the former member details how the so-called religious organization isn’t just about celebrity worship and tax exemptions, but rather a pervasive intrusion into the individual’s way of life and the surrounding communities.
In the manner of a virus, the organization seeks alliances with like-minded cults to drag into their ranks, which seemed a perfect partnership for Minister Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam (NOI). During last year’s Saviours Day, it was Minister Farrakhan who delivered the speech declaring former science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, as a great man worthy of the praise of his 20,000-strong membership. Remini details how it was actually her who was tasked with recruiting NOI members into their ranks.
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Trigtent: The Strange and Secret Ties Between Scientology And Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam
https://www.trigtent.com/usa/strang...scientology-and-louis-farrakhans-nation-islam
BAILEY STEEN DEC 22, 2018 11:00 AM
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Scientology whistleblower Leah Remini has disclosed the strange relationship between the cult of Scientology and Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam. In the latest episode of her television program Scientology and the Aftermath, the former member details how the so-called religious organization isn’t just about celebrity worship and tax exemptions, but rather a pervasive intrusion into the individual’s way of life and the surrounding communities.
In the manner of a virus, the organization seeks alliances with like-minded cults to drag into their ranks, which seemed a perfect partnership for Minister Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam (NOI). During last year’s Saviours Day, it was Minister Farrakhan who delivered the speech declaring former science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, as a great man worthy of the praise of his 20,000-strong membership. Remini details how it was actually her who was tasked with recruiting NOI members into their ranks.
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programmer_guy
True Ex-Scientologist
Any of the Abrahamic religions would eventually come into conflict with the spiritual beliefs of Scientology.
(For example, the Abrahamic religions are monotheistic and Scientology is polytheistic.)
(For example, the Abrahamic religions are monotheistic and Scientology is polytheistic.)
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According to sacred Scientology scripture that is engraved verbatum on titanium plates, buried deep underground in order to save mankind---Farrakhan is a text-book:
Yet Scientology embraces them as upstats.
REASON: There doesn't have to be a reason. This is Scientology--it doesn't have to make sense.
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- 1.1
- SP
- Merchant of Chaos
- Degraded Being
- Squirrel that spreads implanted false data to sabotage mankind.
Yet Scientology embraces them as upstats.
REASON: There doesn't have to be a reason. This is Scientology--it doesn't have to make sense.
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Deleted. Faulty post.
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Yeah, they put that heifer out and now more people watch her show than there are Scientologists in the world. She committed the heinous crime of cogniting on where true total freedom lies, which is outside the world of Scientology.
How come there is always some guy at the front always going YEAH! after every sentence?
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The reason Scientology embraces them as upstat is because Minister Farrakhan -- and more so Minister Tony Muhamamd and Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad -- are upstat. They are bringing in new members. The ironic truth is the NOI may be the only group in the U.S. where the COS is growing and gaining members, or at least people taking services. (I say the U.S. because there is evidence the COS is doing well in Taiwan.)
Will it be worth an eventual potential PR hit? Perhaps not. But short term, Minister Farrakhan, Minister Tony Muhammad, Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad and the NOI are providing stats. The local Scientology / Dianetics events aimed at the NOI members I monitor and cross-post about are by far better attended than local "pure" COS events.
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Scientology ally and partner Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan is Number 2 on the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Worst Anti-Semitic Incidents 2018 Annual Top Ten List.
http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=8776547&ct=15022765
http://www.wiesenthal.com/atf/cf/{54d385e6-f1b9-4e9f-8e94-890c3e6dd277}/TOP-TEN_2018REPORT.PDF
http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=8776547&ct=15022765
http://www.wiesenthal.com/atf/cf/{54d385e6-f1b9-4e9f-8e94-890c3e6dd277}/TOP-TEN_2018REPORT.PDF
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Enthetan
Master of Disaster
When he talks about "Moors", I assume he's talking about the American "Moorish Science Temple of America" group, and not the real Moors of North AfricaScientology Youth For Human Rights Award Winner Nation of Islam Brother Rizza Islam says the Nation of Islam and the Moors have been united by Farrakhan and are one family. It may be relevant to recall that the two recent discussions between Ishmael Bey of Scientology and the Aftermath and NOI Brother Steven X and then NOI Brother Rizza Islam were broadcast on the YouTube channel of Moorish World TV. I'm posting this for the implications, if any, for Scientology.
Video at link.
https://twitter.com/IslamRizza/status/1075916615244378112
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
They are not even Muslims, or at least real Muslim clerics would not consider them to be so. Do NoI members even read the Quran and Hadith?From Dianetically Speaking, the public Facebook home of the Nation of Islam and the Church of Scientology:
"Family, we are Muslims, we are not Scientologists."
If I didn't know better, I might think someone -- or some TV show -- hit a nerve.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DianeticallySpeaking/permalink/1875987922500216/
But then I see this posted in the same forum....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DianeticallySpeaking/permalink/1875203719245303/
UPDATE:
This has caused a bit of discussion.
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Nation of Islam Brother Jihad Muhammad is "having great wins on NED."
NED = New Era Dianetics, metered auditing that is the process that is the usual route to Clear. If one does not go Clear on NED, one does the alternate route of the Solo Auditor Course Part I, Power, Power Plus, Solo Auditor Course Part II, Grade VI and the Clearing Course.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DianeticallySpeaking/permalink/1895219463910395/
NED = New Era Dianetics, metered auditing that is the process that is the usual route to Clear. If one does not go Clear on NED, one does the alternate route of the Solo Auditor Course Part I, Power, Power Plus, Solo Auditor Course Part II, Grade VI and the Clearing Course.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DianeticallySpeaking/permalink/1895219463910395/
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On Dianetically Speaking, the public Facebook home of the Nation of Islam and the Church of Scientology, an interesting discussion is taking place about the efficacy of prayer versus the efficacy of auditing.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DianeticallySpeaking/permalink/1893353060763702/
Nation of Islam Brother Alexander Ofori-Muhammad makes the statement that most precisely sets forth the issue.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Dia...=1893548240744184&comment_tracking={"tn":"R"}
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Alexander Ofori-Muhammad Salaams, i like it the analogy but to be honest we have been praying over engrams for 80 plus years, my thing is we should deleting or erasing them so that prayer can be even more beneficial, most programs or self help tools in my opinion deal with engram management or devising ways of keeping the bank away or at least keeping it keyed out, but we've never had anything that can actually remove them permanently, so most of our trials are self imposed because the bank is keeping the lion in a cage, if we can audit whilst summoning the power of the supreme wisdom which is the primary tool in manufacturing gods I think this would be the beginning of heaven on earth.
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It is perhaps not surprising to to recall that Brother Alexander Ofori-Muhammad is a Class V Auditor at the Church of Scientology of London and at least OT II.
Nation of Islam Brother Will Muhammad responds:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Dia...1897579380341070&comment_tracking={"tn":"R0"}
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Will Muhammad Alexander Ofori-Muhammad no sir we have not. If so you praying to a spook God.
Surely prayer keeps (one) away from indecency and evil; and certainly the remembrance of Allah is the greatest (force). And Allah knows what you do.~Holy Quran 29:45.
Beloved God did not lie. I can go deeper , if you don't believe what more can I say?
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The discussion to date proceeds as follows:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DianeticallySpeaking/permalink/1893353060763702/
Nation of Islam Brother Alexander Ofori-Muhammad makes the statement that most precisely sets forth the issue.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Dia...=1893548240744184&comment_tracking={"tn":"R"}
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Alexander Ofori-Muhammad Salaams, i like it the analogy but to be honest we have been praying over engrams for 80 plus years, my thing is we should deleting or erasing them so that prayer can be even more beneficial, most programs or self help tools in my opinion deal with engram management or devising ways of keeping the bank away or at least keeping it keyed out, but we've never had anything that can actually remove them permanently, so most of our trials are self imposed because the bank is keeping the lion in a cage, if we can audit whilst summoning the power of the supreme wisdom which is the primary tool in manufacturing gods I think this would be the beginning of heaven on earth.
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It is perhaps not surprising to to recall that Brother Alexander Ofori-Muhammad is a Class V Auditor at the Church of Scientology of London and at least OT II.
Nation of Islam Brother Will Muhammad responds:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Dia...1897579380341070&comment_tracking={"tn":"R0"}
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Will Muhammad Alexander Ofori-Muhammad no sir we have not. If so you praying to a spook God.
Surely prayer keeps (one) away from indecency and evil; and certainly the remembrance of Allah is the greatest (force). And Allah knows what you do.~Holy Quran 29:45.
Beloved God did not lie. I can go deeper , if you don't believe what more can I say?
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The discussion to date proceeds as follows:
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
Congressman calls on Justice Department to halt federal funding for Nation of Islam
NoI is receiving federal money to "teach religious studies" to prison inmates. Does that include Scientology?
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