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Purple Rain

Purple Rain

Crusader
RBMM said:
Good grief a lot of you are rude. Not all, but enough.

Is this called a 'forum declare' or something?.... If a newbie member speaks up or shows any sign of disruption, shame on him. Yet the regular or senior members have full clearance and full justification to be rude and insensitive? Sound familiar. If I point this out, denial. If I mention my sister, who gives a shit eh?
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This forum is tame compared with other forums I've been in. Maybe you should re-read some of those very compassionate posts you are ignoring, such as Sweetness and Free to Shine posted. It is you who is rude to ignore their encouragement and good advice. Comparing this place to any kind of Scientology system is just bad taste. It is precisely because we now HAVE free speech that people will tell you what they honestly think. You should read what people have said about me. Often they are right.
 
NoName

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
Calm down, dude. I think you're being way too sensitive. A few people were trying to give you tips on how to fit in around here. Take a deep breath, and start over. If you want, that is.

So a few people don't believe in the whole remote viewing thing? Get over it. ESMB is an eclectic bunch and we have threads about Nibiru and the Anunaki. Another topic that gets mixed responses. Hell, if you want to see a real flame war, ask if people have found Jesus. ESMB people will fight over whether the Presbyterian church down the street is a "cult" much more than whether or not Nibiru and remote viewing exist. But what do you expect from people who have been damaged by so-called religion.

And in ESMB and in life, you will be miserable if you expect everyone to like you 100% of the time. That's just the way it is.

You've made some really insightful and thoughtful posts, so I hope you stick around. I personally wouldn't go to a support group because I fear OSA infiltrators. But to each t heir own. Good luck.
 
NoName

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
RBMM said:
Good grief a lot of you are rude. Not all, but enough.

Is this called a 'forum declare' or something?.... If a newbie member speaks up or shows any sign of disruption, shame on him. Yet the regular or senior members have full clearance and full justification to be rude and insensitive? Sound familiar. If I point this out, denial. If I mention my sister, who gives a shit eh?
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If someone tracks mud into my house, I'll ask them to take off their shoes. Then I will ask if they would like a cup of tea and a biscuit and invite them to stay a while.
 
Arthur Dent

Arthur Dent

Silver Meritorious Patron
RBMM said:
Hey, you know what? I think some of you folks were unfair to me. I don't appreciate my posts being refered to as "annoying". I tried to contribute, and toss in some insight from another perspective, show caring and sweetness for some of the vicitms. Clearly I am anti-church and anti-Hubbard and dreadfully concerned over the kids. The only error I made is when I assumed someone might be a troll, but I immediately fessed up and apologized and even agreed it was not right. But I also gave my freezone tips (thus not ignoring the person) and gave some good escape advice which was actually meant for OSA lurkers, go figure. And I said sorry for the odd double post, etc. Yet it appears I am the only one admitting any error. If you don't like my posts you don't need to tell me I am annnoying. I am not over-posting, just excited at first to be here. I lost my sister due to disconnection but I cannot talk about it ever in public due to our family prominence and the wishes of her husband/kids/in-laws. You think that is fucking easy to deal with, not being able to discuss details or who we are? I offered to pay to keep the forum alive after Emma retires, including having the insight to move it to an offshore server to ensure longevity from the law. Big deal that I suggested closing it to the public. It was balance of risk; not wanting to see the forum die yet at the same time not wanting to deal with Miscavige lawsuits. Let's see... a forum closes and nobody uses it, or it stays alive at least for the current users. Hmm... how unfair of me. It was only a bloody idea anyway. Thanks for making me not feel welcome. That is how I feel, even though you can deny that or put the fault on me somehow. Please purge my account and posts if possible. No worries if not. I fucking don't have anywhere to turn. Freezone folks are nice, but I dislike Hubbard. I cannot talk in public. I cannot talk to a stranger. So I can only get involved and try to contribute somehow. I don't even know where I can do that now. Public forums are awesome for awareness but I need a private support group. Friends are helpful, but ultimately only victims can truly understand. Even worse is what I see and know via remote viewing about DM which I cannot mention, it's almost too dangerous to deal with or get involved with. I literally had to leave Los Angeles in an attempt to minimize reminders and get a different frame of mind. It worked for a few months. God dammit what a screwed up situation. I am done apologizing. And I can only assume this post is annoying too.
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Hi RBMM. Are you talking about a scientology disconnection?
Hope you say an chat. Or you can go and remote view us. :) Just kidding. You should hang out and get over the bumps! And offer stories. That may be the key to our hearts.

Veda said:
Oy. :eyeroll:
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Oh vey.

degraded being said:
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I'm going to have a cup of tea.
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Claire Swazey

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Another factor is this:

There are different standards for cyberspace than IRL. It's a fact. There is no way that some of the things people sometimes say on message boards to each other would go over in regular social "real world" settings.

People are less inhibited behind keyboards, sometimes.

And IRL, if someone were spoken to rudely, very few people would fault him or her for being defensive or standing up for him or herself. But they will on message boards. Nobody wants to see it.

You're supposed to either ignore it or indicate agreement.

I personally would suggest keeping in mind the many friendly and nice people here. I would suggest only dealing with those who behave here the way they would in regular physical world society.

There is nothing wrong with sticking up for yourself. But some people will be angered by it.
 
NoName

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
To add to what Claire said, you don't get the benefit of voice inflection on a message board. I think you're reading anger or nastiness into what I read as gentle nudges or mild annoyance.

I have no idea which one of us is right, but I've been interacting with ESMB long enough to know I wasn't seeing anyone seriously pissed off.
 
degraded being

degraded being

Sponsor
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And, today's lesson on my Journey through Life, is The Power of The Pout.
If I use it well I can get...let's see...be told that people are compassionate to me, that I have 'spunk' (one of Dame Edna's compliments to a guest,) etc etc. :)
Blessings:)
 
Lone Star

Lone Star

Crusader
RBMM said:
Good grief a lot of you are rude. Not all, but enough.

Is this called a 'forum declare' or something?.... If a newbie member speaks up or shows any sign of disruption, shame on him. Yet the regular or senior members have full clearance and full justification to be rude and insensitive? Sound familiar. If I point this out, denial. If I mention my sister, who gives a shit eh?
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Now quite a few of us acknowledged your sister, expressed empathy and urged you to share your story. Quit looking at what you perceive to be attacks, and look at the positive overtures that have been made toward you. It's mostly been positive today from my reading of this thread.

If you can't do that, then you truly do need to go because most of us aren't going to waste more time holding your hand.

When several members said that you can start all over here on ESMB they truly meant it.

Listen, when I first joined here I got put in my place quite a few times. Sure I got ticked off at first. But I listened to the criticisms and actually found that they were valid. I kept posting and am glad I did. That was a little over six months ago. Hell even today someone called me out on a post I made. I was resorting back to my old ways a bit. Most people here are very honest and up front, and they aren't afraid to let you know when either your or my shit stinks. I like it. Sincerity is rare in this phony world.
 
The Anabaptist Jacques

The Anabaptist Jacques

Crusader
SweetnessandLight said:
TAJ, have you been remote viewing Mark??? :ohmy:

How do you know he LOVES to sing show tunes?!? :)biggrin:)
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Can't you hear him singing this now?

“Scientologist on the Internet”
Music by Jerry Bock
Lyrics by The Anabaptist Jacques
Choreography by Annonymous
Based on the Orgs of L. Ron Hubbard

Positions (sung to the tune of “Tradition”)

[Spoken] Here in our org we have positions for everything.
Who is to do call in, who is to write letters, who is to answer phones.
Even who to write your O/Ws to.
For instances, there is a post to start muster.
How did this post get started. I’ll tell you. I don’t know
But it’s a position. And because of our positions we know who we are and what Ron expects us to do.

[Sung]
Positions, Positions,….Positions.
Positions, Positions,….Positions.
Who day and night must scramble for a product, never get to study, mark his daily graph.
And who has the job as master of his staff, to keep their ethics fully in.
The Seniors, the Seniors….the Seniors
The Seniors, the Seniors….the Seniors

And who do seniors hit, with work they cannot do.
Then face-rip them to pieces, completely through and through
The Jurniors, the Jurniors….the Jurniors
The Jurniors, the Jurniors….the Jurniors

At 8 a.m. I started staff, at midnight I went home.
I hear they picked a post for me, I hope it’s easy.
The Recruits, the Recruits…..The Recruits.
The Recruits, the Recruits…..The Recruits.

And who do we call in, until we make them sick.
Preparing them to come in and get their pockets picked,
The Public, the Public…..the Public.
The Public, the Public…..the Public.

[Spoken] And in the empty halls of our ideal org we have our own special posts.
For instances, Mary the course super

Mary the course super: “Joey, I have a perfect twin for your TRO, the guy right over there.”
Joey: “The guy right over there! He’s got bottle-thick glasses. He can’t even see.”
Mary the course super: “Well the way he sees and the way you confront, you’re a perfect match.”

And Harry the IAS reg.
Harry the IAS reg: “Donos to the IAS, Donos to the IAS. A hundred dollars?”
Public donating $100: “ I’m sorry, I had a bad week.”
Harry the IAS reg: “So you had a bad week. Why should the future of mankind suffer?”

And the most feared of all, Heinrich, the ethics officer:
Staff member: E/O, is there a handling for my foxy and sexually active girlfriend.
Heinrich the E/O: “Yes. Disconnect from her—and give me her phone number.”

[Sung]
Positions, Positions,….Positions.
Positions, Positions,….Positions.
[Spoken] Without our positions, our lives would be as shaky as…as…as a Scientologist on the Internet!
 
koki

koki

Silver Meritorious Patron
OMG!
Always attack,never defend.
You are always weeeellccooooome heeerrrrrrreee in LRHs Bulgravia... (In Garry Oldmans voice from Dracula)

RBMM said:
Hey, you know what? I think some of you folks were unfair to me. I don't appreciate my posts being refered to as "annoying". I tried to contribute, and toss in some insight from another perspective, show caring and sweetness for some of the vicitms. Clearly I am anti-church and anti-Hubbard and dreadfully concerned over the kids. The only error I made is when I assumed someone might be a troll, but I immediately fessed up and apologized and even agreed it was not right. But I also gave my freezone tips (thus not ignoring the person) and gave some good escape advice which was actually meant for OSA lurkers, go figure. And I said sorry for the odd double post, etc. Yet it appears I am the only one admitting any error. If you don't like my posts you don't need to tell me I am annnoying. I am not over-posting, just excited at first to be here. I lost my sister due to disconnection but I cannot talk about it ever in public due to our family prominence and the wishes of her husband/kids/in-laws. You think that is fucking easy to deal with, not being able to discuss details or who we are? I offered to pay to keep the forum alive after Emma retires, including having the insight to move it to an offshore server to ensure longevity from the law. Big deal that I suggested closing it to the public. It was balance of risk; not wanting to see the forum die yet at the same time not wanting to deal with Miscavige lawsuits. Let's see... a forum closes and nobody uses it, or it stays alive at least for the current users. Hmm... how unfair of me. It was only a bloody idea anyway. Thanks for making me not feel welcome. That is how I feel, even though you can deny that or put the fault on me somehow. Please purge my account and posts if possible. No worries if not. I fucking don't have anywhere to turn. Freezone folks are nice, but I dislike Hubbard. I cannot talk in public. I cannot talk to a stranger. So I can only get involved and try to contribute somehow. I don't even know where I can do that now. Public forums are awesome for awareness but I need a private support group. Friends are helpful, but ultimately only victims can truly understand. Even worse is what I see and know via remote viewing about DM which I cannot mention, it's almost too dangerous to deal with or get involved with. I literally had to leave Los Angeles in an attempt to minimize reminders and get a different frame of mind. It worked for a few months. God dammit what a screwed up situation. I am done apologizing. And I can only assume this post is annoying too.
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NoName

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
degraded being said:
Still haven't had it yet. If I track mud into NoNames house, I will get a cup of tea and a biscuit. That's worth tracking mud for! But actually, I am going for coffee now -and a biscuit, cant forget the biscuit. :)
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Everyone except you. I'll release the hounds on you now, because I will know you tracked mud deliberately :p
 
Claire Swazey

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
koki said:
OMG!
Always attack,never defend.
You are always weeeellccooooome heeerrrrrrreee in LRHs Bulgravia... (In Garry Oldmans voice from Dracula)
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It amuses me how often people will say "always attack never defend" when someone is defending themselves.

I suggest you look up those two words.
 
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