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Mystic

Mystic

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If on the happenstance scifaggOTry isn't dead, then let us chant (pray): "Muerte del culto, muerte del culto, muerte del culto, muerte del culto....
 
KnightVision

KnightVision

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alex said:
We will just have to meet up at the Resturant at the End of the Universe and see what happened.... :)

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I'm already there and there's no girl looking over her shoulder to be found...

FYI, there isn't actually an 'end'. But that is only disclosed to those immunized against mad religions that plug one into believing it.
 
KnightVision

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Rmack said:
One thing to keep in mind; the cult itself is a cut-and-paste job. A very large portion of the core philosophy actually originated with Alister Crowley and his cult, which was in turn an amalgam of occult traditions both east and west.

There always has been and will continue to be people who believe similar things and even practice similar techniques. Although, it appears there was a much greater resemblance to the eastern and western esoteric traditions in the early days before much of the upper level stuff got nerfed.

So, a similarity to Sci principles is not a foolproof way to determine if some group is an offshoot. If you are talking people using the same terminology (which importance to establishing and maintaining an 'egregore', or group mind can't be overestimated) and going under the same name, then I still think it will stick around, at least as long as the United States stays sort of still here. It will just shrink to the standard range for cults. (less than 10,000 members)..
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Nice post RM!

The 10 K figure is appropriate; there are unfortunate souls who find 'spiritual awareness' as well as 'personal values' from practicing slavery...
 
Voltaire's Child

Voltaire's Child

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Rmack said:
One thing to keep in mind; the cult itself is a cut-and-paste job. A very large portion of the core philosophy actually originated with Alister Crowley and his cult, which was in turn an amalgam of occult traditions both east and west.

There always has been and will continue to be people who believe similar things and even practice similar techniques. Although, it appears there was a much greater resemblance to the eastern and western esoteric traditions in the early days before much of the upper level stuff got nerfed.

So, a similarity to Sci principles is not a foolproof way to determine if some group is an offshoot. If you are talking people using the same terminology (which importance to establishing and maintaining an 'egregore', or group mind can't be overestimated) and going under the same name, then I still think it will stick around, at least as long as the United States stays sort of still here. It will just shrink to the standard range for cults. (less than 10,000 members).



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Sure. It's just that I've noticed that some writers, speakers and others saying certain things in certain ways that made it appear very likely that they'd dabbled in Scn. CofS doesn't like it but there are quite a few dabblers out there who take a course then move on.

And Hubbard did do a lot of borrowing/appropriation from other ologies and isms and so on. And of course, he threw in some ideas and methods of his own.
 
Rmack

Rmack

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Voltaire's Child said:
Sure. It's just that I've noticed that some writers, speakers and others saying certain things in certain ways that made it appear very likely that they'd dabbled in Scn. CofS doesn't like it but there are quite a few dabblers out there who take a course then move on.

And Hubbard did do a lot of borrowing/appropriation from other ologies and isms and so on. And of course, he threw in some ideas and methods of his own.
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There are no doubt real splinter groups around. I think EST was the main one for quite awhile. Still is, maybe?

Nomenclature is a big giveaway, for sure.



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Voltaire's Child

Voltaire's Child

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Yep. But I really think the unofficial itty bitty ones where someone read a couple books, did some courses or got a little auditing and then later inculcated some of the ideas in his or her practice outnumber the ones like EST, Eckankar, Knowledgism, Metapsychology, various Free Zone practices, etc. I just have a feeling that there are lots of the former out there.
 
Rmack

Rmack

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Voltaire's Child said:
Yep. But I really think the unofficial itty bitty ones where someone read a couple books, did some courses or got a little auditing and then later inculcated some of the ideas in his or her practice outnumber the ones like EST, Eckankar, Knowledgism, Metapsychology, various Free Zone practices, etc. I just have a feeling that there are lots of the former out there.
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Yeah, and when you combine it with all the other strains of occultism out there, it mixes into a very toxic river.

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Mystic

Mystic

Crusader
Well it's good that scifaggOTry is dead. I want to know where it's dead so I can beat it to death.
 
KnightVision

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Voltaire's Child said:
Yep. But I really think the unofficial itty bitty ones where someone read a couple books, did some courses or got a little auditing and then later inculcated some of the ideas in his or her practice outnumber the ones like EST, Eckankar, Knowledgism, Metapsychology, various Free Zone practices, etc. I just have a feeling that there are lots of the former out there.
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Big deal. I read part of the bible once. Found a few interesting things I liked and may even use them from time to time....

Does that mean I'm a former?

NO.

There is very little impact whatsoever upon the global population from anything LRH.

Lcon and his idiocies are little, dinky, insignificant puffs of fart air that a miniscule part of the population has seen... much less cared about.

For those who dig it or parts thereof... enjoy. As a worldly affair it's mostly known as something to avoid at all costs.
 
KnightVision

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Rmack said:
Yeah, and when you combine it with all the other strains of occultism out there, it mixes into a very toxic river.

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Exactly.

Sewage passes down the pipe line and mixes with other shit. Eventually it's pumped out to sea or sent to a process plant.
 
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