Scientology Professionals vs. David Miscavige
- Thread starter J. Swift
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So, these people are 'professional' Scientologists.
Boy, that's a solution in search of a problem
Zinj
I read it as they are professional people who are also scientologists.
Infinite
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I wonder why they would bother with that distinction. If its true, do they think it carries more weight? Given Scientology's attitude towards higher education and the professions generally, it would seem to work against them if they are seeking to address the typical cult member.
AlphOhm
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Same "The Oracle" that was pissing and moaning about supposedly being "outed" a while back?
Veda
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Hubbard had a thing about "being professional," "being fully professional," etc. L. Ron Hubbard PPROs [Personal Public Relations Officers] announce that "L. Ron Hubbard was fully professional in 29 fields," etc. It's almost a Scientology buzz word.
The web site is pretty naive.
CarmeloOrchards
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yes
Mark A. Baker
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Infinite
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Ahhh . . . the adjective as opposed to the noun. I'm slowly getting a feeling for the various nuances of Scilonspeak, but is that a good thing?? : )
Thanks, Veda, once again.
In and out of Scientology, "professionals" are venerated or at least respected as something to aspire to. "If you can't be a Doctor or a Lawyer, son, at least become a Dentist or CPA."
Lynn Fountain Campbell
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Infinite
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Perhaps for the middle class, but not where I come from. The admonition around these parts is "get yourself a trade". Professionals here are deemed to be little more than bloodsucking middle-men, especially lawyers and accountants, while doctors are considered something of a necessary evil. Dentists? What are they?
: )
I think this is the point where someone shouts 'Objection! Not in evidence!'
These people don't even have names, much less lawsuits or evidence.
Zinj
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Good one, Lynn.They're "Anonymous."
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Lynn
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Scientology Professionals
I've been in contact. The person who replied (namelessly) seemed genuine, if ingenuous. My guess is that it's a small group of field Scientologists who may also be Wise members. Their stated goal is to put the management structure of Scientology back into place as LRH intended.
They seem to have immense faith in their first amendment rights and the legal system's impartiality. IOW, just a bunch of dumb 'Merkins.
I have no doubt that they intend to take this to court, but going into something like this without all the facts in writing is legal suicide. And since the corporate trail is and always was a smoke screen, any sane judge should, by rights, deregister the whole Scientology network as a sham as a result.
Added to this the likelihood that all copyright to the original "Scriptures" was lost somewhere around 1979 due to the deregistration of the HASI (this story also involves CSC and the Wollersheim case), and all that remains to be decided is what to do with the IAS funds that have been salted away.
My vote is to build a big volcano-shaped object where the S(uper) P(ower) building sits and encase David Miscavige inside it for eternity, in concrete.
I've been in contact. The person who replied (namelessly) seemed genuine, if ingenuous. My guess is that it's a small group of field Scientologists who may also be Wise members. Their stated goal is to put the management structure of Scientology back into place as LRH intended.
They seem to have immense faith in their first amendment rights and the legal system's impartiality. IOW, just a bunch of dumb 'Merkins.
I have no doubt that they intend to take this to court, but going into something like this without all the facts in writing is legal suicide. And since the corporate trail is and always was a smoke screen, any sane judge should, by rights, deregister the whole Scientology network as a sham as a result.
Added to this the likelihood that all copyright to the original "Scriptures" was lost somewhere around 1979 due to the deregistration of the HASI (this story also involves CSC and the Wollersheim case), and all that remains to be decided is what to do with the IAS funds that have been salted away.
My vote is to build a big volcano-shaped object where the S(uper) P(ower) building sits and encase David Miscavige inside it for eternity, in concrete.
BunnySkull
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1998
If these are such a wealthy bunch of successful, leading "professional" Scientologists ready to take on the cult why does their website look state of the art for 1997? Seriously a 12 year old in 2002 could do a better job. Leaving aside the layout and design, its got very little real content.
Besides all these claims of being an elite group of professionals means fuck all when its all anonymous. They could claim to be on staff at Harvard Medical School too, doesn't mean its true and they offer no proof.
From what I've seen the few professionals who are hard-core scientologists tend to fall into "professional" telemarketer owners, real estate speculators, chiropractors (and their "consultants") and occasionally some real professionals such as dentists and computer engineering types.
Real professionals tend to be somewhat rare in Scientology but boy do they still love to use titles that lend them the air of esteem, probably something they liked about Scientology. (i.e my money buys status) Important titles seem to be an obsession among scientologists and I never trust their use.
(I've known very few professional, academics or "successful" people who give two craps about the titles used to address them, probably because their not insecure sadsacks in a cult.)
Until they offer some real proof of who they are then its just so much more hot air coming from the boosters of Ronbot fanclub.
If these are such a wealthy bunch of successful, leading "professional" Scientologists ready to take on the cult why does their website look state of the art for 1997? Seriously a 12 year old in 2002 could do a better job. Leaving aside the layout and design, its got very little real content.
Besides all these claims of being an elite group of professionals means fuck all when its all anonymous. They could claim to be on staff at Harvard Medical School too, doesn't mean its true and they offer no proof.
From what I've seen the few professionals who are hard-core scientologists tend to fall into "professional" telemarketer owners, real estate speculators, chiropractors (and their "consultants") and occasionally some real professionals such as dentists and computer engineering types.
Real professionals tend to be somewhat rare in Scientology but boy do they still love to use titles that lend them the air of esteem, probably something they liked about Scientology. (i.e my money buys status) Important titles seem to be an obsession among scientologists and I never trust their use.
(I've known very few professional, academics or "successful" people who give two craps about the titles used to address them, probably because their not insecure sadsacks in a cult.)
Until they offer some real proof of who they are then its just so much more hot air coming from the boosters of Ronbot fanclub.
Helena Handbasket
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IMHO the C of S is beyond saving. Even DM were removed tomorrow, if all the abuses were stopped, if the prices were rolled back to affordable levels, and especially if ethics were used to help get people moving on the bridge rather than for "compliance enforcement", it's just too late.
The best you could hope for is to start (another) new organization, independent of C of S control. Then, you can do your own thing and be free of all the accumulated bad PR.
Helena
The best you could hope for is to start (another) new organization, independent of C of S control. Then, you can do your own thing and be free of all the accumulated bad PR.
Helena
Helena Handbasket
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The Freezone was founded in 1982 by William Robertson. It is "free" in the sense that it has declared freedom from outside influence. This, at the time, was the same as RONS Orgs. But later on, other groups formed independent of the church, calling themselves the freezone also. So "freezone" today means RONS Orgs and many other individuals and groups. But RONS Orgs is still RONS Orgs.
I never heard that one before. Cute. But I guess you could say that's the same as RONS Orgs.
Helena