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Thanks Face.

Beautiful.

mm&I

Yes, I knew David back in the days. We were Apollo Crew together and afterwards and, along the way, I had a few "face to Face" chats with David in the "Ivory Tower".

I've made a number of posts on ESMB re: David over the last year. It's so good to know that he is here with all of Us now and that Y'all can get to know the "real" David. David is one of the most a remarkable thoughtful, kind and decent human beings I have ever been around, irregardless his past “status” and “position” in Scn.

Here's few of my posts that, IMO, are indicative of David Mayo:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=444644&postcount=3536

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=430697&postcount=54

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=430640&postcount=49

All of Us here are kindred spirits!:yes:

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I'm not Face but I'm inclined to the view that many, if not all, of us are to some degree 'kindred spirits'. For some it is what initially drew them to the hope of what scientology could offer. For many it is why they chose then (& perhaps continue to choose now although through disparate means) to promote what they see as the potential for spiritual betterment.

But I take your point with regard to similarities between Face & David. :coolwink:


Mark A. Baker

Yes!!! :yes:

Y'all are far too considerate of me with what I consider to be one helluva compliment. :blush:

Thank You. :yes:

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Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen

“The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out.” Thomas Babington Macaulay

There has been stuff going on over the last few weeks with ESMB that has consumed much of my paltry reading and writing time coins. The importance of this Board, the Value of all Y'all that have been, are or will come here and the Vibrancy Voices that to be Heard in the Threads has never been more acute and evident to me.

Along with all that, I’ve had some other “stuff”—gooder than good stuff—that has taken up much of my transient coherent hours.

This is a shorter than usual installment, but I want to post what's ready now and I’ll post the rest of Part Fourteen in a couple of days.

EDIT April 28, 2011:

Subsequent to me posting Part Fourteen Carmelo and others have brought to light the fact that El Ron had Hisself’s own personal meaning and concept for the word “Fabian” as is used in the text of this installment. HelluvaHoax has defined and explained El Ron’s usage of “Fabian” very well:

“El Ron’s usage which distinctly was elusive, strategically unlocated & transiently ephemeral. Moving around from place to place, not fixed, appearing and disappearing unpredictably. Sort of off the radar. It was in reference to his self-proclaimed "wholetrack successful actions".”

Cakemaker subsequently posted a passage from RJ 67 and Esto and FEBC Glossary wherein El Ron's context for Fabian was "elusive, hard to hit, refusing direct engagement with and enemy."

Also, Paradox put up a great post with an early Flag Order where Fabian was used that cintinues along this vein.

Mark A. Baker then put up this post which further confirms the "elusiveness" of Fabian.

“Fabian” is used in the text accordingly with El Ron's invented meaning. Thanks for all the help, folks.



Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen

“Kristallnacht: The Year of the Jackals”
(cont.)


“Never desert a group to which you owe your support.” L. Ron Hubbard, “The Code of Honor”.

“Unless, of course, you’re ‘Source’.” Face's Third Caveat

For even the casual student of El Ron’s life, deserting groups to which Hisself owed support was obviously as easily done by El Ron as swatting a fly. El Ron was adept a deserting without cause—other than Hisself’s own self interest. El Ron’s desertion's were never a matter of honor and were always convoluted, clever and callous abandonment of folks that Hisself had sought so convolutedly, cleverly and callously to curry the favor and support of. The story of his USN Officers Commission and Service Record clearly shows Hisself’s modus and the early telltale signs of true brilliance warped by the wrap of coward’s feigned bravado. El Ron’s life “Legacy” is a litany of desertion in the face of challenges and challengers, culminating in the Year of the Jackals as Hisself’s “Opus Magnus Fine”.

El Ron loved being “Fabian”. Fabian, for El Ron, meant never having to front up, face up or fess up. From Hisself’s Fabian position El Ron deserted Mary Sue and the hundreds of GO Staff that had tenaciously, faithfully and with personal risk implemented Hisself’s orders, policy, programs, schemes, capers and plots. Protecting Hisself’s “Fabian-ness” was the shroud of “Security” that emboldened pathological liars and conmen like the Alpha Jackals of Children of the Corn Jackel Pack to lay waste to the countryside to “secure” their positions in the “Golden Age” of the “New Civilization”. Hisself’s Fabian-ness was the “cover”, the “lever” and the "silencer" during the Year of the Jackals.

As a group, the Mission Holders (MH’s) had rendered more financial, support to El Ron than any group extant at that time in Institutionalized Scn (IS). There is not one of them that wouldn’t have agreed—and welcomed—a meeting and joint conference with El Ron in the highest of personal security arrangements and openly, honestly discuss the matters at hand and likewise Mary Sue and the GO Execs. The same is true for the Old Guard (OG); Robertson, Mayo, Franks, Urquhart, Bogvad, Sullivan (Watson) et al and Field Auditors and Luminaries (FAL’s). Hisself knew that.

Fabian allowed El Ron to play the “Third Party Law” for Hisself’s perceived “advantage”. El Ron’s compartmentalized Command and Control Organization system had all the groups to which Hisself owed support factioned off and in the dark as to actually what was what, who was who, when was when, where was where and why was why. The only ones that had access to the full depth and breadth of information of what was actually going on within IS was the “Inner Pack” of Children of the Corn (COC) Alpha Jackals (AJ’s) and they had no predicate, experience, maturity or judgment to analyze, interpret or “see” anything other than what Hisself told them to "see" at that moment; whatever Hisself told them was Senior and took precedence to all the other millions upon millions of words Hisself had written in the Scriptures—of which, the AJ’s had read but the slightest of fractions.

The MH’s, GO, OG and FAL’s were, for the most part, the folks that had been there, done that while most of the Scriptures were first scribed; they had spent years studying the Scriptures; they had spent much of their adult lives using and following the Scriptures and, as all of Us now know, this group of groups is where much of the substantive content of the Scriptures had come from; to an individually greater to lesser degree, they knew this and El Ron—to a degree that is still this day coming to light—GD well knew it. All the AJ’s knew was what El Ron told them they knew and anyone that has ever seen a pack of Jackals feed on a kill or carrion knows that they don’t chew…in mindless frenzy, they just bite off as big a chunk as they can and swallow.

Part of El Ron Scriptures and Symbols are triangles; ARC, BDH, SCS, PSF, etc. El Ron had all of the groups to which Hisself owed support triangulated. I offer all Y’all the components of desertion in Face’s “Desertion Triangle” or "DT" for short (I'm not computer adept enough to draw the lines):

Passive​


Aggressive Fabian​


In a couple of days,

Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (cont)

“Kristallnacht: The Year of the Jackals” (conclusion)

Peace.

Face:)
 
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Jachs

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Great piece

I pictured ElRon reading this and his violent fits and being viewed bare.

your a top tracker Face.
 
“The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out.” Thomas Babington Macaulay

There has been stuff going on over the last few weeks with ESMB that has consumed much of my paltry reading and writing time coins. The importance of this Board, the Value of all Y'all that have been, are or will come here and the Vibrancy Voices that to be Heard in the Threads has never been more acute and evident to me.

Along with all that, I’ve had some other “stuff”—gooder than good stuff—that has taken up much of my transient coherent hours.

This is a shorter than usual installment, but I want to post what's ready now and I’ll post the rest of Part Fourteen in a couple of days.


Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen

“Kristallnacht: The Year of the Jackals”
(cont.)


“Never desert a group to which you owe your support.” L. Ron Hubbard, “The Code of Honor”.

“Unless, of course, you’re ‘Source’.” Face's Third Caveat

For even the casual student of El Ron’s life, deserting groups to which Hisself owed support was obviously as easily done by El Ron as swatting a fly. El Ron was adept a deserting without cause—other than Hisself’s own self interest. El Ron’s desertion's were never a matter of honor and were always convoluted, clever and callous abandonment of folks that Hisself had sought so convolutedly, cleverly and callously to curry the favor and support of. The story of his USN Officers Commission and Service Record clearly shows Hisself’s modus and the early telltale signs of true brilliance warped by the wrap of coward’s feigned bravado. El Ron’s life “Legacy” is a litany of desertion in the face of challenges and challengers, culminating in the Year of the Jackals as Hisself’s “Opus Magnus Fine”.

El Ron loved being “Fabian”. Fabian, for El Ron, meant never having to front up, face up or fess up. From Hisself’s Fabian position El Ron deserted Mary Sue and the hundreds of GO Staff that had tenaciously, faithfully and with personal risk implemented Hisself’s orders, policy, programs, schemes, capers and plots. Protecting Hisself’s “Fabian-ness” was the shroud of “Security” that emboldened pathological liars and conmen like the Alpha Jackals of Children of the Corn Jackel Pack to lay waste to the countryside to “secure” their positions in the “Golden Age” of the “New Civilization”. Hisself’s Fabian-ness was the “cover”, the “lever” and the "silencer" during the Year of the Jackals.

As a group, the Mission Holders (MH’s) had rendered more financial, support to El Ron than any group extant at that time in Institutionalized Scn (IS). There is not one of them that wouldn’t have agreed—and welcomed—a meeting and joint conference with El Ron in the highest of personal security arrangements and openly, honestly discuss the matters at hand and likewise Mary Sue and the GO Execs. The same is true for the Old Guard (OG); Robertson, Mayo, Franks, Urquhart, Bogvad, Sullivan (Watson) et al and Field Auditors and Luminaries (FAL’s). Hisself knew that.

Fabian allowed El Ron to play the “Third Party Law” for Hisself’s perceived “advantage”. El Ron’s compartmentalized Command and Control Organization system had all the groups to which Hisself owed support factioned off and in the dark as to actually what was what, who was who, when was when, where was where and why was why. The only ones that had access to the full depth and breadth of information of what was actually going on within IS was the “Inner Pack” of Children of the Corn (COC) Alpha Jackals (AJ’s) and they had no predicate, experience, maturity or judgment to analyze, interpret or “see” anything other than what Hisself told them to "see" at that moment; whatever Hisself told them was Senior and took precedence to all the other millions upon millions of words Hisself had written in the Scriptures—of which, the AJ’s had read but the slightest of fractions.

The MH’s, GO, OG and FAL’s were, for the most part, the folks that had been there, done that while most of the Scriptures were first scribed; they had spent years studying the Scriptures; they had spent much of their adult lives using and following the Scriptures and, as all of Us now know, this group of groups is where much of the substantive content of the Scriptures had come from; to an individually greater to lesser degree, they knew this and El Ron—to a degree that is still this day coming to light—GD well knew it. All the AJ’s knew was what El Ron told them they knew and anyone that has ever seen a pack of Jackals feed on a kill or carrion knows that they don’t chew…in mindless frenzy, they just bite off as big a chunk as they can and swallow.

Part of El Ron Scriptures and Symbols are triangles; ARC, BDH, SCS, PSF, etc. El Ron had all of the groups to which Hisself owed support triangulated. I offer all Y’all the components of desertion in Face’s “Desertion Triangle” or "DT" for short (I'm not computer adept enough to draw the lines):

Passive​


Aggressive Fabian​


In a couple of days,

Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (cont)

“Kristallnacht: The Year of the Jackals” (conclusion)

Peace.

Face:)

Did LRH not know what Fabian means? or do I not know?

Fabian |ˈfābēən|
noun
a member or supporter of the Fabian Society, an organization of socialists aiming at the gradual rather than revolutionary achievement of socialism.
adjective
relating to or characteristic of the Fabians : the Fabian movement.
• employing a cautiously persistent and dilatory strategy to wear out an enemy : Fabian tactics.
DERIVATIVES
Fabianism |-izəm| noun
Fabianist |-əst| noun
ORIGIN late 18th cent.: from the name of Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (see Fabius ), after whom the Fabian Society is also named.
 

paradox

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Did LRH not know what Fabian means? or do I not know?

Fabian |ˈfābēən|
noun
a member or supporter of the Fabian Society, an organization of socialists aiming at the gradual rather than revolutionary achievement of socialism.
adjective
relating to or characteristic of the Fabians : the Fabian movement.
employing a cautiously persistent and dilatory strategy to wear out an enemy : Fabian tactics.
DERIVATIVES
Fabianism |-izəm| noun
Fabianist |-əst| noun
ORIGIN late 18th cent.: from the name of Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (see Fabius ), after whom the Fabian Society is also named.
"40. Hubbard asserted that the Sea Org is "fabian", and redefined that word to mean "using stratagem and delay to wear out an opponent" (JCA-84). Hubbard wanted the Sea Org to be seen as "a determined but elusive and sometimes frightening group". He also asserted that the Sea Org has "tough discipline", and that "Only those members who are not used heavily aboard [ship] or on mission seem to go slack." (JCA-85)."
SEA ORGANIZATION
FLAG ORDER 137
The Sea Organization
....

In 1966 I made the actual test of what I could accomplish alone (much as an OT) in the wog world. l won the affection of the people
of an entire small country and changed it ~ a small determined clique of our SP friends made sure I lost. True, as they are locally and internationally unpopular, that they made me go opens all doors to us there when they are overthrown, as they will be, merely on the rationale that if they opposed us then we are all right.

....

I am a great one for pioneering alone to find "holes in the fence".Well, that's what I did in 1966. And I concluded several things, First was that on an international basis one has to get in Ethics before he gets in Tech. Second was that OTs did better amongst OTs. Third that OTs were most valuable as a disciplined organized group. Fourth, that one could not , with such power, hold a fixed position without losing ground. Fifth, that we grow stronger as we continue to remain "Fabian". Sixth, that the Sea Org is the best area on which to be Fabian on this planet. Seventh, that we had to learn to work together as OTs before we could take in further territory. Eighth, that we could do our jobs best if we all grew more accustomed to handling Mest. Ninth, that theSea Organization as it is developing is our best personal and international answer.


....

And that's how and why (with allowances for security in the crypticness of this text) the Sea Organization came into being and why we are here.

L. RON HUBBARD COMMODORE

http://www.scribd.com/doc/47289452/Scientology-Misc-Flag-Orders
 
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Did LRH not know what Fabian means? or do I not know?

Fabian |ˈfābēən|
noun
a member or supporter of the Fabian Society, an organization of socialists aiming at the gradual rather than revolutionary achievement of socialism.
adjective
relating to or characteristic of the Fabians : the Fabian movement.
• employing a cautiously persistent and dilatory strategy to wear out an enemy : Fabian tactics.
DERIVATIVES
Fabianism |-izəm| noun
Fabianist |-əst| noun
ORIGIN late 18th cent.: from the name of Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (see Fabius ), after whom the Fabian Society is also named.

Funny that you mention that...

From the time I was in the Sea Org and first read Hubbard talking about his whole track successful action of being "Fabian" I clearly understood that he meant elusive, strategically unlocated & transiently ephemeral.

Many years later I looked up the word and thought: "WHAT?!"

I assumed at that point that ElRon had simply misunderstood the word.

But I never heard anyone else mention that until today.

The conventional and published definition of Fabian makes absolutely no sense in the context of how Hubbard used it.

Unless, as you speculate, I may be missing something entirely.

Anyone else want to weigh in on Hell-Ron's use of that word?
 

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Face,

I didn't think it could get better than the previous installments.

Jesus!

Thanks for the surprise.
 

Ted

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Funny that you mention that...

From the time I was in the Sea Org and first read Hubbard talking about his whole track successful action of being "Fabian" I clearly understood that he meant elusive, strategically unlocated & transiently ephemeral.

Many years later I looked up the word and thought: "WHAT?!"

I assumed at that point that ElRon had simply misunderstood the word.

But I never heard anyone else mention that until today.

The conventional and published definition of Fabian makes absolutely no sense in the context of how Hubbard used it.

Unless, as you speculate, I may be missing something entirely.

Anyone else want to weigh in on Hell-Ron's use of that word?


He defined it, then used it. He also said that lying is the lowest form of creativity. And, people ask me why I prevaricate. I do it because I can.

Anyway, Fabian is how he operated GO/OSA.

FABIAN, a. Delaying; dilatory; avoiding battle, in imitation of Q. Fabius Maximus, a Roman general who conducted military operations against Hannibal, by declining to risk a battle in the open field, but harassing the enemy by marches, countermarches and ambuscades. (Webster's 1828)
 

HelluvaHoax!

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He defined it, then used it. He also said that lying is the lowest form of creativity. And, people ask me why I prevaricate. I do it because I can.

Anyway, Fabian is how he operated GO/OSA.

FABIAN, a. Delaying; dilatory; avoiding battle, in imitation of Q. Fabius Maximus, a Roman general who conducted military operations against Hannibal, by declining to risk a battle in the open field, but harassing the enemy by marches, countermarches and ambuscades. (Webster's 1828)

Do you recall how he defined it?

I thought i heard it in an S.O. tape ...and (this was ages ago) thought he was talking about moving around from place to place, not fixed, appearing and disappearing unpredictably. Sort of off the radar. It was in reference to his self-proclaimed "wholetrack successful actions".

If my recollection is correct, I think Ronnie needs a visit to the word clearer.
 

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El Ron deserted Mary Sue in every way with the exception of financially and, in my view, the only reason Hisself didn’t do that was the sheer terror of her “ruining” Hisself and sending him to prison. I’m certain that Mary Sue was a Major, Major Character in Omar Garrison’s ill fated El Ron Biography.
Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen

Kristallnacht: The "Year of the Jackals”
(cont.)

Peace.

Face:)


Face Its interesting that Mary Sue spent her last days with a view of the Hollywood Sign

2345 Chislehurst Drive, Los Angeles

and right next to Griffith park Observatory.

.
 

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Once again, the best I've ever read.

After the last installment, I thought it can't get any better than this - and with this installment it just did !

Thanks Face !

Complied into a book you have a very good selling book on your hands because you lay out the puzzle and put in the heretofore missing pieces !
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Very interesting. I remember those tapes and other tapes where El Ron clearly used the “Fabian” as you described. I’m embarrassed to say that I had actually never looked up the word and was going off of El Ron’s usage which distinctly was elusive, strategically unlocated & transiently ephemeral.

I’ve been M4ed, M9ed and starrated on Hisself’s SO stuff with that word…and my “understanding” of it.

I think I better go back and annotate Part Fourteen.

Face:)


Funny that you mention that...

From the time I was in the Sea Org and first read Hubbard talking about his whole track successful action of being "Fabian" I clearly understood that he meant elusive, strategically unlocated & transiently ephemeral.

Many years later I looked up the word and thought: "WHAT?!"

I assumed at that point that ElRon had simply misunderstood the word.

But I never heard anyone else mention that until today.

The conventional and published definition of Fabian makes absolutely no sense in the context of how Hubbard used it.

Unless, as you speculate, I may be missing something entirely.

Anyone else want to weigh in on Hell-Ron's use of that word?
 

uniquemand

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Yes. Like many of the words he used, he misunderstood it and made up a new definition, then insisted this was the meaning.
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Man, thanks Carmelo. Obviously El Ron knew what it meant...everything always meant what Hisself meant it meant.:coolwink:

Appreciate you bringing this up, Pal. :yes:

Face:)

Did LRH not know what Fabian means? or do I not know?

Fabian |ˈfābēən|
noun
a member or supporter of the Fabian Society, an organization of socialists aiming at the gradual rather than revolutionary achievement of socialism.
adjective
relating to or characteristic of the Fabians : the Fabian movement.
• employing a cautiously persistent and dilatory strategy to wear out an enemy : Fabian tactics.
DERIVATIVES
Fabianism |-izəm| noun
Fabianist |-əst| noun
ORIGIN late 18th cent.: from the name of Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (see Fabius ), after whom the Fabian Society is also named.
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Do you recall how he defined it?

I thought i heard it in an S.O. tape ...and (this was ages ago) thought he was talking about moving around from place to place, not fixed, appearing and disappearing unpredictably. Sort of off the radar. It was in reference to his self-proclaimed "wholetrack successful actions".

If my recollection is correct, I think Ronnie needs a visit to the word clearer.

This is exactly what I remember.
 
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