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afaceinthecrowd

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Maybe Ron slid over into what he reactively felt was the winning valence. The MATRIX itself. In all....owns all...influences all...sooooo secretively :p

I have some opinions about what "happened" with El Ron that I'll cover somewhere down the road in this series. Certainly, IMO, El Ron saw Hisself as "IT" and the "Pinks and Grays" were part of being "IT".

Face:)
 

afaceinthecrowd

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As always, shooting stars light up the night. Brilliant stuff!

You gotta wonder about Elron. On the one hand, setting up these little pre-pubescent and adolescent girls in their slightly creepy Lolita costumes; on the other, acting so cruelly to them. It's a very strange pathology, I think. And I know there were boy messengers too; how was he with them? Did they wear bumless white pants and tight singlets or what? And what do you think MSH and the Hubbard kids thought about this little band of devoted followers?

When I got to Flag someone from CMO CW came to see to talk recruitment. In the end I was rejected because I wasn't sufficiently good-looking to be a Messenger. He liked them long-legged and preferably (but not exclusively) blonde. I can't say I was upset about not making the grade. Even as a devoted SO member I thought most of the CMO I'd met were a tad fanatical, though some were good friends of mine.

Thanks Petey C.

The boy messengers wore white cotton Bermuda type shorts or white cotton kaki slacks.

I always wondered myself what Mary Sue and kids thought about the girl messenger’s attire but I never asked and they never said. Being so close to El Ron I’m sure there was a whole buch of stuff they “accepted” as just how “IT” was.:yes:

Good on you for not having done the Messenger thing.:coolwink:

Face:)

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afaceinthecrowd

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Face,

I'm just wonderin' if you've read any of the so-called LRH "biographies" and what you thought of them. You know, like Messiah or Madman, Piece of Blue Sky, and Bare-Faced Messiah. They all detail various stories and paint their own pictures of the man, his family, and a history of the subject.

ILove2Lurk

I've read them all. Bent's BFM is my personal favorite. Iknew Bent and he was a real straight shooter and good guy.:yes:

I always wondered what happened to and with Nibs (LRH, Jr.) and Bent's book tells the story very well...and, IMO, it is an important and revelatory story.

Face:)
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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Face is going away? Noooooo!
:sad:

....away, but staying in com! Just got this...

Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd
Dear All,
In my travels, you'll never guess who I ran into last night! L. Ron Hubbard! He's got a new body and his teeth are looking much better. Hey, listen...he offered me a substantial discount on my Bridge to Freedom, so....well, never mind about all those earlier posts where I talked trash about the Commodore. He's really a great guy when you get to know him! He hasn't overboarded me, chain-lockered or fair gamed me once even after all my PostCrimes. ML, Face



ps: I am still trying to verify the provenance of that post. Therefore, there is a slightly remote chance this may be a hoax.
 

Petey C

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....away, but staying in com! Just got this...





ps: I am still trying to verify the provenance of that post. Therefore, there is a slightly remote chance this may be a hoax.

LOL! Jeeze, Hoaxie, why so suspicious? It looks perfectly OK to me!
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
The greatest tragedy of Scn and El Ron’s “Legacy” is the utter contempt and harmful treatment of children…including Hisself’s own.

Face:)

:yes:

and
unfortunately
passively witnessed by their parents and other scientologists - all of us - as a group and what we agree with.


Thank's for all the precious pieces of ''old times'' you shared.
We can feel your concern with children in your recall and writings

I wish you to heal about it, as I wish to heal myself about the shame and sadness stuck within me about the children in scientology - especially the ones ''given to sea org'' and to ''hisself''

Thank you for these precious recall of Ron's legacy.
It truly help me cut any tie or agreement with this abusive cult and mentally ill founder.

* I often find myself asking what if Ron would have received professionnal help when he asked for ????

It is written, read and will be remember.


Peace in your heart
Joy in your life

:arose:
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Sidebar...I feel the need to rant about something

I’m still on my “walkabout” but I have been keeping up with what’s been going on around the old corral over the last 2 weeks or so. As always, lots of good stuff is consistently put up on ESMB by all Y’all. Wish I had the time to participate a little.

It’s gonna be another couple of weeks before I resume “Shooting Stars”, but, I have couple of things I wanted to say and rather than start a new Thread I thought I’d just post it here.

A big chunk of my walkabout has been helping someone go through and convalesce (as much as a brain damaged and ten thumbed nurse can help) from hip replacement surgery. Talk about Standard Tech…WOW! Hip replacement is incredibly precise, technical, mechanically extensive and mathematically complex. The basic design of the implant device has not change in over 30 years but the materials and techniques have evolved to where there are some hotshot Surgeons (like the one my friend had) that can do the whole job in a few hours with only a 4-5 inch incision and without cutting any muscles. My friend was able to stand (with assistance and support) 8 hours after the surgery. The healing process is long (at least 10-12 weeks) and it will be probably 12-14 months until the peak benefit is realized but already they are no longer suffering the striking, withering pain from the severely damaged arthritic hip socket they had.

I am humbled by the skill and kindness of the Surgeon and his team and the nursing staff at the hospital. These folks are highly competent, they care and they are dedicated. I am humbled by humankind’s instinct to aid and help the afflicted and ease the suffering of others with patience, professionalism and probity and facilities such as this particular one are truly one of the the houses of our better angels.

Which brings me to the point of this post.

My friend was never a Scio but is friends with one of the folks I know that’s still very much “in” and is one of the reasons for my anonymity on ESMB. A year or so ago my friend’s arthritic hip began to rapidly deteriorate and their lack of mobility began to steadily lessen and the chronic pain went from moderate to severe. Our mutual Scio friend’s solution was that my friend just needed Dianetics and Assists and offered to do “Book One” on them. When my friend declined to have any Scn practiced on them our mutual Scio friend contacted me (as I had the “better comm-line” and wanted me to do a PTS handling on my friend as they were “obviously PTS” and sent, unsolicited, all the “new” PTS and Assists packs that were free of all the “Mis Dups” and “Omitteds” of the past.

Now, I have received Scn Assist Processes that have been helpful and I have received some that were not helpful, and I have received some that actually made me feel worse and had PC results likewise as an Auditor. But, I have also had good results receiving and giving massage, traction adjustment, listening to narrative descriptions, just plain touching without repetitive commands and the “laying on of hands” so to speak. The power of a loving hand, caring touch and soothing words and benign “listening” is nothing new, and has been known about since before Humankind loincloths were fashionable and anyone that has been around animals some knows that they instinctively know of this force of nature.

Degenerative arthritis from genetic predisposition and over 3 decades as a professional athlete (as was the case with my friend) is not some simple injury that any Scn Assist or process, or any other therapy, is going to cure or rectify. What little pain might be relieved by any such therapies will shortly return, sometimes within minutes.

Likewise, the condition of my friend was not the result of being connected to a “present time SP” or some “case condition”. It happens to many professional athletes over 50 years old, including Jimmy Conners. There are only a few things that can be done to provide temporary relief; moist heat packs, limiting physical activity that involves the hips, supplements and herbs, maintaining appropriate weight, and pain medication…which is the most effective of all. The only way to “cure” the condition is surgery. The difference between an X-ray of an arthritically damaged hip and a healthy hip is dramatic and stark.

The pain a person in this condition experiences is striking, searing and withering. All controlled movement in athletics emanates frome the “core” and the foundation of the “core” is the hips and pelvis. The primary pain is from bone grinding against bone in the hip socket with every movement of the body that involves the hip. As the hip degenerates, the alignment of lower torso becomes skewed, which then creates further pain from improperly aligned stress force vectors to the sesamoid bones of the foot and knees. As the sesamoid stress increases, the outer calf and inner thigh muscles are placed under increasing stress that causes them to tighten up and cramp and become yet another source of pain. Finally, in the latter stages of hip degeneration, the stresses move into the lower back and then to the shoulders and neck. At this point, the pain throughout the body is sever and constant even when lying in bed and without pain and occasional sleep meds life becomes near unbearable and the idea that Scn Assists, PTS handlings and Book One Auditing are a true and proper therapy at this point is more than ludicrous--it is dangerous and inhumane, IMO.

Furthermore, the concept that a person that was genetically predisposed to this condition and spent a lifetime excelling in the studied, highly controlled and graceful use of their body--maximizing through discipline, focus and hard work the expression of physical gifts that a small fraction of folks are born with, for the enjoyment them self and entertainment, inspiration and instruction of others--“pulled it in” is vile and callous in the extreme.

But, sadly, that is the crux of the “Legacy” of “Ron, The Healer” and the crucible for “On Source” Scios, to wit; the dramatic “instant ‘cure’”, the rationalization of any failure to produce the dramatic “instant ‘cure’”, the disdain of the infirmed and ill and the blithe betrayal and arrogant abandonment of they that require and deserve real and actual, complete, intensive and effective 24/7 care.

All of Us have seen it, heard about it and/or been a party to the Scn deaf, blind and dumb “handling” of the ill and infirmed. We’ve all heard the grandstanding stories and claims of miraculous and instant “cures” of all manner of physical maladies from Assists and “OT Powers” and “Standard Tech”. And, all of Us know that in the Scn Community, when a someone becomes ill or infirmed they are isolated, rarely spoken of but in hushed, muted and dismissive terms and regged for every dime that they’ve got…and then every last dime they don’t got that can be got.

The day after my friend’s surgery I informed our mutual Scio friend that the surgery had been very successful and the Surgeon (who said on three seperate occaisions that my friend had been a “pleasure” to operate on due to their fitness, perfected anatomocal structure, Physical abilities and talent) gave a prognosis of a recovery of up to 85-90% of mobility and flexibility. That was 10 days ago and neither my friend, or I, have heard anything from our mutual Scio friend. Sadly, this to me is understandable--they’re just too busy and caught up in the “Wins” of Clearing the Planet” and content living a life blinded by the shroud of El Ron’s “Legacy”... helping to bring "Earth a civilization of which it can be truly proud”.

End of rant and I thank all Y’all for listening.

Face:)
 
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afaceinthecrowd

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....away, but staying in com! Just got this...





ps: I am still trying to verify the provenance of that post. Therefore, there is a slightly remote chance this may be a hoax.

:hysterical:

Okay, okay...so I fell off the wagon briefly. El Ron offered to give me a free Tepaphone clean-up session.:biggrin:

Goofy assed sumbitch still can't find a right item. :melodramatic: :coolwink:

Face:)
 
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afaceinthecrowd

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:yes:

and
unfortunately
passively witnessed by their parents and other scientologists - all of us - as a group and what we agree with.


Thank's for all the precious pieces of ''old times'' you shared.
We can feel your concern with children in your recall and writings

I wish you to heal about it, as I wish to heal myself about the shame and sadness stuck within me about the children in scientology - especially the ones ''given to sea org'' and to ''hisself''

Thank you for these precious recall of Ron's legacy.
It truly help me cut any tie or agreement with this abusive cult and mentally ill founder.

* I often find myself asking what if Ron would have received professionnal help when he asked for ????

It is written, read and will be remember.


Peace in your heart
Joy in your life

:arose:

Thank you, Lotus...you're a sweet and kind soul.:yes:

I am well on my way to healing, thanks to ESMB and folks like you. But, we all have and live with our scars and that, to me, is a good thing.:coolwink:

:hug:

Face:)
 
Re: Sidebar...I feel the need to rant about something

I’m still on my “walkabout” but I have been keeping up with what’s been going on around the old corral over the last 2 weeks or so. As always, lots of good stuff is consistently put up on ESMB by all Y’all. Wish I had the time to participate a little.

It’s gonna be another couple of weeks before I resume “Shooting Stars”, but, I have couple of things I wanted to say and rather than start a new Thread I thought I’d just post it here. ...

Thanks for the update, Face. I hope it goes well for you and your friend.


... and the idea that Scn Assists, PTS handlings and Book One Auditing are a true and proper therapy at this point is more than ludicrous--it is dangerous and inhumane, IMO. ...

Assists are just that, assists. They should never be thought of as a substitute for proper medical care. I've used assists & Book I to facilitate others in recovering from their surgeries. In that regard they've proved to be helpful. But they are certainly not valid replacements for proper medical care.

One of the obvious irrationalities of the cult is the insistence on only using hubbard tech to address all problems. As to the idea that a PTS handling is necessary to correct a medical condition, that is simply insane. There is no other word for it.


Mark A. Baker
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Re: rant

I apologize that in my haste my "rant" post was an earlier draft that contains numerous errors. I have replace the post with the actual final draft.:blush:

Face:)
 
Hi, face. A friend of mine had hip replacement last year. She had been on painkillers
for god know's how long, very bad gait, knee problem as well. She had been getting naturopathic treatment, which was allowing more and more damage to the hip by delaying proper treatment. Finally she got an ex-ray and it was so bad the Doc said to get it done soon as possible. She had a similar experience to your friend. It took about 3-4 hours (which was considered longer than usual). She could get around on crutches just a coupla days later and went home after about a week I think. About 7 months later she went and had her knee, on the same side, done. Not a replacement but a no fuss procedure.
 

LongTimeGone

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Hi, face. A friend of mine had hip replacement last year. She had been on painkillers
for god know's how long, very bad gait, knee problem as well. She had been getting naturopathic treatment, which was allowing more and more damage to the hip by delaying proper treatment. Finally she got an ex-ray and it was so bad the Doc said to get it done soon as possible. She had a similar experience to your friend. It took about 3-4 hours (which was considered longer than usual). She could get around on crutches just a coupla days later and went home after about a week I think. About 7 months later she went and had her knee, on the same side, done. Not a replacement but a no fuss procedure.

Thanks DB.
Life becomes a lot simpler when you trust REAL experts and bow to common sense.

LTG
 
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