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Slightly "off topic" but...

:melodramatic: :omg: Just wondering,

I think about some staff member I know or knew - and really have serious qualms as to their being able (or not) to cope with managing their life on the "outside"!:nervous: :confused2: Same for full-time FSMs - they can't be doing well in these times. :no:

Scn is just about the totality of life for some, in my observation. :omg:

Anyone know if this has been discussed around here? Or am I unduly concerned? :unsure:

You ANZOites are a year or so ahead in the exodus, or so I believe...any thoughts, successful actions or experience to share? :)

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Carmel

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Carmel

Your "viewpoint" is brilliant!! It certainly applies to situations I have found myself in lately.

One quick question-HOW to be more patient with those of the $cio mindset? One of my biggest flaws seems to be annoyance with family members who just can't see it. Guess I have to up the affinity and comm to get them to accept my R!!!

This post was a good one as this has been something I have been thinking about quite a bit lately.
Hey Sandygirl,

I get impatient too - very much so! :grouch:

I deal with that by recognizing the fact that unless I'm wearing a hat (just like ya have to at work or with business associates), I'll fall on my ass! I sometimes want to shake them and say "for fu'ks sake, wake up!" - but obviously I don't, cause if I did that would just blow my chances of helping them.

A relatively short time ago, I helped an old friend see what was going on. He was a militant type of scio, who would parrot off the usual scn lines. It took me some time, and a lot of persistence to get him to see. Next thing, he was a scn critic. He announced the fact to the world (including his friends still in), and prided himself on his integrity for doing so. My God, he upset the hell out of all his friends and they all cut comm.

I spoke to him about this and challenged him about his tactics. He said that he wouldn't do anything but tell them the truth, no matter what adverse affect that may have. I told him that I thought he was being an ignorant selfish bastard, and pointed out to him that he wasn't being so noble in my books. I said to him, that if I applied those tactics to him, that he'd still be "in" with the wool pulled over his eyes, and still heading towards bankruptcy while dishing out even more money to the IAS. He thought about it for a minute and agreed.

With our own children, we don't just put all our cards on the table and tell it exactly how it is, 'cause in some cases that would be harmful. We wear hats as parents and add to their "data base" according to what they can accept and take on board, without pushing them off the edge of a cliff. I deal with scios I care about, in much the same way.

Good luck with your family members Sandygirl. If ya stand in their shoes and see things from their viewpoint, then you are likely to be successful (however long that takes and however hard that may be).

Cheers,
Carmel
 

sandygirl

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Thanks Carmel!!!

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If ya stand in their shoes and see things from their viewpoint, then you are likely to be successful (however long that takes and however hard that may be).

I think this is true. Sometimes I feel like the "odd man out" because they are so smug and secure in their beleifs and it's lots more work to think for ones' self without the LRH filter humming in your head!!

My mom said something that shocked me when we were having a little "discussion" about the cult. She said she didn't want to make any "trouble" for family members in the SO by LOOKING at other viewpoints. I said to her "do you see how sick that statement is"????? What other "church" do you have to be afraid of punishing family if you question scripture???

She just stared at me and changed the subject...............:duh: :duh:
 
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