The IAS briefing at the End of the Universe.

[Feral]

I can see a time coming that truly makes my heart bleed for some of my friends still in.

Some of these guys have invested so much of their lives to the CofS and are now well past their prime, have next to nothing and no OT states as promised. I don't think they can even look at the wealth of data on the web about Scentology. They've gone too far and may feel the horror too closely if they find out it has been a scam.

They're 'dedicated' in a way that transcends power of choice.

I know, I've talked to quite a lot since I got out. I felt it too, and it really hurts when I think back over the wasted years and fortune trying to get up the bridge through OTVII while suffering constant abuse on staff then from FLAG.

The IAS is hitting them in the US and Australia right now with an almost identical story, viz; They have a target of several million, half has been made, it is to fight Federal laws being passed that weaken the Church's position and strengthen the Psychs.

David Miscavige is desperate to fend off the court cases that loom, especially Headley's which could signal the tipping point for him and the church. I'm sure that is the real need for the cash.

He also now has the very real possibility of being arrested, tried, convicted and jailed as a potential future.

I predict as these events close in on the Church the regging will become truly hysterically desperate.

Try this 'mandatory briefing' that all the parishioners may or may not be called to attend in the future as these events gather momentum;

"Thank you for coming, right now our Church is, for the first time, facing a critical 'event horizon', and depending on what you guys do today and how much responsibility you take rests mankind's only hope, should we fail to meet this target, well, for the first time I can say the dark curtain may fall on our only chance to go free and make it.

So dig deep, I want you cars, your house, your retirement funds, the lot, yes it is that serious, how do you think you'll feel if you hold out on us tonight to keep a 'piece of MEST' and in three months or so the church is gone and all our decades of work has been for nothing?

(Reads KSW section on 'deadly serious')

The doors will be locked until we meet our target, no exceptions......"

I can see them making that final desperate push. The staff will do anything they're ordered at this point, no matter how destructive, there's no room for independent thought in this machine.

Apparently, Adolph Hitler ordered the subways flooded in the last days of Berlin's terrible air raids. All the civilians in there hiding from the Ally's bombs had to be punished for betraying him, so he would drown them for their failure and their cowardice, he knew all was lost and made their destruction part of his exit plan.

Remind you of any one?

 

[scooter]

Frighteningly possible methinks.

There's already the shrill of mandatory briefings going on and I'm certain the regging will be total take-no-prisoners hard sell for the IAS soon as it will be the ONLY income source that the cult will have.

Maybe we mail them all "The Dangerous Environment?"

 

[LA SCN]

Absolutely...

Good post - describes an easily foreseeable future for Cof$. What's scary to think about is the immediate next step on that future - the cool-aid for those to far invested to get out.

 

[LA SCN]

Frighteningly possible methinks.

There's already the shrill of mandatory briefings going on and I'm certain the regging will be total take-no-prisoners hard sell for the IAS soon as it will be the ONLY income source that the cult will have.

Maybe we mail them all "The Dangerous Environment?"

How 'bout let it be known even more broadly that help and support is available for dyed in the wool churchies when the collapse comes?

 

[scooter]

Yep, and tell 'em they're about to be regged like they've never been regged before and it's all to do with DM's legal bills.

That should at least give them something to chew on sitting in bankruptcy court.

If they know that there is help outside being offered as well as "we told you so but we ain't giving you stick over it" we might be able to salvage more.

 

[Alanzo]

When Mary Sue and 11 other top Scientologists were preparing to be convicted of felonies in the late 1970's, the feds were closing in on LRH. It was the end of the universe for the Church of Scientology, then, too. And LRH had his own "flood the subways" plan.

He instituted a "monthly rising prices" plan that was designed to strip every bit of anything of value out of the church network, and to take the money and run. Then, while in hiding, he sent in little Davey to steal every bit of money out of every mission on the planet. I believe that Hubbard planned for this day all throughout his life - to loot the network he had enslaved others to build for him and to disappear when the jig was up.

He was probably amazed that people stayed around, being Scientologists and even Sea Org members - and even kept running the Church! After LRH disappeared, and everyone else was sent to jail, how could the Church of Scientology possibly survive?

There is no reason not to expect DM to implement a similar strategy to the one he learned from LRH. There is also no reason not to expect lots of Scientologists to stick around and try to run the Church in DM's honor after he disappears with the cash. That's what they did for LRH when he took off, why would they not do it for DM?

I doubt if DM will go down into a bunker and kill himself like Hitler did. LRH didn't do that. As the water fills up to the ankles, the knees, and then to the waists of the Scientologists left holding the bag in the subways of Scientology, DM will be peeling away in his motor home with a new name, wearing sunglasses and a fake mustache, laughing all the way to the bank.

Just like LRH did.

 

[everfree]

As Mary Sue and 11 other top Scientologists were preparing to be convicted of felonies in the late 1970's, the feds were closing in on LRH. It was the end of the universe for the Church of Scientology, then, too. And LRH had his own "flood the subways" plan.

He instituted a "monthly rising prices" plan that was designed to strip every bit of anything of value out of the church network, and to take the money and run. Then he sent in little Davey to steal every bit of money out of every mission on the planet. I believe that Hubbard planned for this day all throughout his life - to loot the network he had enslaved others to build for him and disappear when the jig was up.

Wow, I've never thought of that time period like that before, it makes perfect sense. Thanks!

The history of CofS is an account of the breakthroughs made in just how far you can push people.

 

[TheSneakster]

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[Mystic]

Muy mucho interesante that more and more depictions of the end game for this cult are appearing on the Holy Internet.

Keep 'em coming!

 

[Dulloldfart]

When Mary Sue and 11 other top Scientologists were preparing to be convicted of felonies in the late 1970's, the feds were closing in on LRH. It was the end of the universe for the Church of Scientology, then, too. And LRH had his own "flood the subways" plan.

He instituted a "monthly rising prices" plan that was designed to strip every bit of anything of value out of the church network, and to take the money and run. Then, while in hiding, he sent in little Davey to steal every bit of money out of every mission on the planet. I believe that Hubbard planned for this day all throughout his life - to loot the network he had enslaved others to build for him and to disappear when the jig was up.

The price rises started with LRH ED 284, The Solution to Inflation, in late 1976.

The FBI raid was July 4, 1977.

The price rise was not enacted in response to the raid.

Paul

 

[Alanzo]

The price rises started with LRH ED 284, The Solution to Inflation, in late 1976.

The FBI raid was July 4, 1977.

The price rise was not enacted in response to the raid.

Paul

I never said that it was a response from the raid.

Quote from Washington Post article dated July 9th, 1977

...The government has monitored the activities of the group and its founder, who originally ran the organization from aboard ships at sea, for years and once filled a lawsuit over the church's alleged claims of the medical benefits of so-called "E-meters" used in its counseling processed. ...

(Emphasis mine)

Here's the entire thing:

http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/washingtonpost/raids-070977.htm

My point is that, from the early 1960's on, Hubbard knew that the government was always one step behind him. The earlier FDA raid, mentioned above, and even the whole reason for ordering Scientologists to infiltrate the government and get the docs they had on him for Operation Snow White was because he knew the government was after him, and someday they would come.

Some day they would come.

All you have to do is stand in Hubbard's shoes and tell the lies he's been telling people for years and years. And collect the money he is collecting for all the lies he's telling. He knew all along it was fraud. Nobody can commit fraud on the scale that Hubbard did and not know it.

If you were Hubbard, you would have a back up plan, too, Paul.

I know I have one.

Don't you?

 

[Terril park]

I can see a time coming that truly makes my heart bleed for some of my friends still in.

Some of these guys have invested so much of their lives to the CofS and are now well past their prime, have next to nothing and no OT states as promised. I don't think they can even look at the wealth of data on the web about Scentology. They've gone too far and may feel the horror too closely if they find out it has been a scam.

They're 'dedicated' in a way that transcends power of choice.

I know, I've talked to quite a lot since I got out. I felt it too, and it really hurts when I think back over the wasted years and fortune trying to get up the bridge through OTVII while suffering constant abuse on staff then from FLAG.

The IAS is hitting them in the US and Australia right now with an almost identical story, viz; They have a target of several million, half has been made, it is to fight Federal laws being passed that weaken the Church's position and strengthen the Psychs.

David Miscavige is desperate to fend off the court cases that loom, especially Headley's which could signal the tipping point for him and the church. I'm sure that is the real need for the cash.

He also now has the very real possibility of being arrested, tried, convicted and jailed as a potential future.

I predict as these events close in on the Church the regging will become truly hysterically desperate.

Try this 'mandatory briefing' that all the parishioners may or may not be called to attend in the future as these events gather momentum;

"Thank you for coming, right now our Church is, for the first time, facing a critical 'event horizon', and depending on what you guys do today and how much responsibility you take rests mankind's only hope, should we fail to meet this target, well, for the first time I can say the dark curtain may fall on our only chance to go free and make it.

So dig deep, I want you cars, your house, your retirement funds, the lot, yes it is that serious, how do you think you'll feel if you hold out on us tonight to keep a 'piece of MEST' and in three months or so the church is gone and all our decades of work has been for nothing?

(Reads KSW section on deadly serious)

The doors will be locked until we meet our target, no exceptions......"

I can see them making that final desperate push. The staff will do anything they're ordered at this point, no matter how destructive, there's no room for independent thought in this machine.

Apparently, Adolph Hitler ordered the subways flooded in the last days of Berlin's terrible air raids. All the civilians in there hiding from the Ally's bombs had to be punished for betraying him, so he would drown them for their failure and their cowardice, he knew all was lost and made their destruction part of his exit plan.

Remind you of any one?

Well I attend all protests in London for the reasons you state.

I doubt that COS is short of money. Per a former data chief the orgs
have had cash/bills crossed for at least 5 years. That dosn't include IAS donations, "Knightings" etc.

What we see is perhaps a secret stat of income. It seems declining.

My family has at least 2 psychologists, and two doctors. They are not aware of COS intention to wipe out psychaitry. Its really just a ploy to get income based on wacky black PR.

 

[Blue Spirit]

Good Post, Feral

It is something I take little pleasure in as this Scientology stuff used

to work, beyond the memory of most today.


Feral you do see about the same thing I do, and it is not pretty !


I'm not concerned about the "Church" but I'm very concerned

regarding the Freezone, as the U.S. is now a virtual Nazi state.


I know good capable people who have plans, but it is too little too late,

from my viewpoint.

 

[Mick Wenlock]

so this would be the briefing that takes place in Milliways?

As the light of the end of then universe pours in through the windows the last IAS reg will be saying "And boy, did we have our heads up our asses..."

 

[Dulloldfart]

I never said that it was a response from the raid.

If you're going to be like that, I never said you did either.

If you were Hubbard, you would have a back up plan, too, Paul.

I know I have one.

Don't you?

No I don't. But then I'm not like Hubbard.

Paul

 

[lkwdblds]

I doubt if DM will go down into a bunker and kill himself like Hitler did. LRH didn't do that. As the water fills up to the ankles, the knees, and then to the waists of the Scientologists left holding the bag in the subways of Scientology, DM will be peeling away in his motor home with a new name, wearing sunglasses and a fake mustache, laughing all the way to the bank.

Just like LRH did.

Alanzo, where did you get this ending? It seems like a James Bond movie ending, where some international billionaire, such as Goldfinger, makes his getaway in a high speed jet boat while his soldiers are are being defeated by James Bond and his team of CIA and British agents back at Goldfinger's fortress hideout.

Where is our James Bond? Mark Headley maybe the closest thing we've got. By the way, interesting concept that LRH anticipated, in '79 that things would close down in the early 80's and he was just pulling out all the money before the crash and that the loyalty and fight exhibited by staff and public caught him by surprise. I have never heard that concept expressed before.
Lkwdblds

 

[Alanzo]

Alanzo, where did you get this ending? It seems like a James Bond movie ending, where some international billionaire, such as Goldfinger, makes his getaway in a high speed jet boat while his soldiers are are being defeated by James Bond and his team of CIA and British agents back at Goldfinger's fortress hideout.

Where is our James Bond? Mark Headley maybe the closest thing we've got. By the way, interesting concept that LRH anticipated, in '79 that things would close down in the early 80's and he was just pulling out all the money before the crash and that the loyalty and fight exhibited by staff and public caught him by surprise. I have never heard that concept expressed before.
Lkwdblds

Read this account by LRH's "Medical Officer", who was with him while he was on the lam.

It's long, but it's good.

 

[scooter]

Read it - great story from the inside but....

Doesn't back up your scenario very much.

Says Hubbard was moving lots of money and was paranoid and a hypochondriac but doesn't say he was trying to do his followers in directly or stunned that they still believed in him.

Need more evidence please.

 

[Alanzo]

Read it - great story from the inside but....

Doesn't back up your scenario very much.

Says Hubbard was moving lots of money and was paranoid and a hypochondriac but doesn't say he was trying to do his followers in directly or stunned that they still believed in him.

Need more evidence please.

It does describe him walking around in a disguise while on the lam from the law.

Hubbard ran. He took as much money from his followers as he possibly could, peeled away in a big motor home, and from then on, tried to hide his location and his identity.

That's the motif for Davey to follow.

That's the "Tech" on what to do in this situation.

That was my point.

 

[scooter]

It does describe him walking around in a disguise while on the lam from the law.

Hubbard ran. He took as much money from his followers as he possibly could, peeled away in a big motor home, and from then on, tried to hide his location and his identity.

That's the motif for Davey to follow.

That's the "Tech" on what to do in this situation.

That was my point.

OK - I just can't see DM trusting ANYONE to run away with him.