Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
i had a harrowing escape from celebrity center after 1980 and had the AAC thing a bit after, so while I got off staff I was still a mindless twit freaked out I was declared and so on. Out but wishing not. Are there ways to get a copy of my declare? Shucks. Sure could use it. Lol if I had it I would frame it but I threw it out long ago.
. And my name is Maria.
On the declares issue, I am pretty sure that copies of one's declare are not sent out to the individual anymore. The LRH policy was to do that and I don't think (but am not sure) that LRH wrote anything to alter that before he died. I believe that in some cases, those written declares were libelous, especially if there were falsehoods in them, which was probably true in most cases. CoS was sending these to a person's employer, often causing the person to lose his job. Probably, some people hired lawyers and sued CoS for libel. It is easy to imagine a court ruling against C of S and awarding damages to a former parishioner who had become declared a Suppressive Person and was then fired.
As I say, that is just speculation on my part, maybe someone knows more about that topic; if anyone knows more, please post it here.
One thing I am certain of is my own case. I quietly drifted off lines around 2001 on a medical leave and never went back. I was not declared suppressive for over a decade! Fast forward to late 2011 or early 2012 and I get an email from some twit who I used to be good friends with back in the 80's and 90's. His initials are B.G.. This dickhead was surfing Facebook. He and his wife, both very active in CoS for decades got divorced after 41 years of marriage. B.G. seemed to be lonely and was trying to find his old friends on Facebook, first he contacted my ex wife and tried to arrange a luncheon with her. She doesn't think much of him and politely turned him down. She told me about this. A few days later, he emailed me and tells me that he lives only about 4 miles from me, asks me what Scio course I am on, and asks if I would like to get together for lunch.
As has been my pattern, all my life, instead of telling him that I am too busy to see him, or making up some excuse such as that, I decided to be truthful so I told him that I would be willing to meet him for lunch but I tell him further that I left CoS years ago and am actively reading the internet and writing articles about CoS on it, some of them speaking out against current CoS management. I tell him that the choice is his, if he still wants to go to lunch after receiving this news, I am willing.
His response was to turn icy cold. He wrote that he would be turning in my name to my local Org and also to the International Justice Chief. He said that I had a certain amount of hours to get to the IJC and start doing an ethics program there or else he would have the Ethics Officer at my local Org have me declared a Suppressive Person. In closing his email, he said that "I had already made the choice never to see him again when I wrote negatively about CoS on the internet."
About 3 months later, he contacted my ex wife and told her that he was at my local Org recently and he saw a Goldenrod posted in the Ethics office declaring me a suppressive person for writing negatively about CoS on the internet. He told my ex that she must never talk to me again or he would have her declared as well.
I talked to various people to see if there was any way that my suppressive declare could be verified. I believe there is an internet site called the "Indy 500" or some such and it contains the names of most people who have spoken out against scientology on the internet. In a little blurb about each person, it mentions whether or not the person has been declared suppressive. I went there and found my name and it did say that I was declared suppressive.
At first, I was a little annoyed with that but then changed my mind. Really, it is a badge of honor in that it shows the public and the person himself or herself that they are not total robots, worshiping at the altar of DM. If a label applies to you, why not wear it proudly?
In summary, Mer, you should check it out on line to see if you are officially declared. The CoS no longer sends you your declare as LRH policy mandated. Not only that, they are supposed to hold a Committee of Evidence to see if a person deserves to be declared and the person himself is supposed to be there and be able to argue why he or she should not be declared. That no longer exists either. As is so common in CoS, the management chooses not to follow their own policies. Despite that, they are quick to declare anyone who doesn't toe their "party line" as a suppressive person.
Lakey
to you!
