The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

And now, for your next unforgettable tune...
[video] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY[/video]

The dancing girls are soooo cool!

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;vUVXMWOWaS8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVXMWOWaS8[/video]

OH my. Miles Davis. I found this one via captain beefheart!

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Hard to surpass Miles Davis. Sigh.

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

So sorry. I'm supposed to be cause over matter, energy, space and time (OT3X) and I've spent the afternoon being effect of various musical geniuses....

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Oh what a waste of time! I didn't reg anyone for their net worth and I didn't auditing anyone for half an intensive today! I didn't make it go right!! Instead I wallowed in Miles Davis and beefheart! And to think, they did not found Scn. What a waste!!! LOL.

HORRORS.

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;tuZnZxsAtoo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZnZxsAtoo[/video]

what beauty....

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

So sorry I derailed the thread. I was having fun cooking and posting (listening to music as I was cooking) and obviously oblivious of what others enjoy. I made homemade pizza from scratch so I was just 'in that moment' and not really into the anti-scn moment as much. Just having fun.....

 

[Elcrapaco]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Damn !
I am so slow !
Every post is made directly to Lakey !
There is no post in this thread that applies or is addressed to the readership of any other reader on the board than Lakey !
Every post made is TO Lakey !

@GIZMO or chipmo'
I notice your contentiousness,and fuming anger albeit expressed in passive aggressive mode,precedes you from thread to thread.You split hairs but wind up in circular motion.It appears to be a case of subluxed vertebrae.Perhaps,the dreaded cranial rectal inversion syndrome.
Meanwhile,out here in the perimeter,there are no stars...out here we is stoned,immaculate.

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

@GIZMO or chipmo'
I notice your contentiousness,and fuming anger albeit expressed in passive aggressive mode,precedes you from thread to thread.You split hairs but wind up in circular motion.It appears to be a case of subluxed vertebrae.Perhaps,the dreaded cranial rectal inversion syndrome.
Meanwhile,out here in the perimeter,there are no stars...out here we is stoned,immaculate.

Are you unaware that this particular thread is a bit of salon and that therefore some rules of decorum prevail?
Thus ad hominems are so not.....

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Gizmo

that is not so! Not all communications end with Lakey.

It's a party so we are milling about....and not just staying in one spot like that!

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

So sorry. I'm supposed to be cause over matter, energy, space and time (OT3X) and I've spent the afternoon being effect of various musical geniuses....

I've prepared a Routing Form for you. First you are to report to Ethics and when you are done there you are to report to the Qualifications Division and a Word Clearer will find and clean up your misunderstood words! I've also placed you into a condition of Danger. You are to apply the Danger formula and work back up to Normal Operation before you can listen to music again.

Chief Petty Officer Lakey
Tech Sec of the Apollo (thread)

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;btyhpyJTyXg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__aJL8i1kL4&list=PL778B7855CD7A1184&index=6[/video]

Talk about tearing the soul in two. This is just so.....so.

Extremely nice, this seems to me like the type of thing Mozart might write if he were living today. Very beautiful and soulful!
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

A thought only. That other worlds are just worlds. NO need to signal, for me, that one is spiritual and one is material. There could be infinite 'forms' or physics models of 'world' and maybe one of those infinite is spiritual and one of those infinite is material. Also, that there is no rule that says a universe has to be made of those components....On this I was reading Kaku's theoretical thinking on parallel worlds. It's not as if a standard model is a given for such worlds....yet I imagine that some thread holds those worlds together, a common paradigm. Maybe it's just gravity. Maybe it is something else. {Whaaaaa. I don't know!} It is funny to think of it the way we think of people. Give 50 people a bunch of stuff (the SAME stuff), each of them LOOKS different, acts different and arranges their stuff so differently that each of their 'worlds' seems extremely unique. Each of them transforms their stuff and soon it is not the SAME.
Parallel Worlds: A Journey Through Creation, Higher Dimensions, and the Future of the Cosmos

Well, we are approaching similar ideas and concepts from totally different vantage points. I like everything you wrote above but I am looking at the concept of a universe in a totally different manner, the manner in which an astronomer, physicist or mathematition would look at it. Your view is from an almost totally different point of view.

On parallel universes, you will be pleased to know that Purple Haze believes in those as well. Myself, I don't believe or disbelieve, I just listen to what other people say about them and remain non judgmental. My only comment is that parallel universes tend to lead to more complexity where I feel that truth is usually found through simplification rather than by introducing more complexity.

To me, creating a concept of parallel universes is something a bit akin to an ad hoc proof, i.e. an investigator makes up some solutions to aid in solving what looks like an unsolvable problem. I could well be wrong on parallel universes. I have no inside info and actually I have absolutely zero data as to whether they exist or not. If their existence is granted, light appears to be shed on a lot of the mysteries of life but whether that light is real or valid to any degree is not really know by anyone now living.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

No, pictures can have energy and matter. But matter and energy are unreal for Plato.

Here are things that are not real for Plato:

pictures (including reactive mind if he would have thought of that, which he did not!)
chairs
our bodies
thoughts (and thought-images)
the planet
the sun
a painting
electricity
all material things
cells, atoms, etc.

here is what is real for Plato:

The forms (the forms of being)
The Good beyond being


In my last post I said pictures are made of matter and energy. I didn't say that pictures could not exist that might be free of matter and energy, like thought-forms. But in that case, those pictures would ALSO be unreal.

Reality is archetype and form. Not individual examples. Note - as an existentialist I disagree with Plato on this.

Well, I asked you whether Plato's pictures contained mass or energy. You simply posted something like, "both mass and energy". I indicated at the time, I believe, that how you answered the question would determine what my response would be. You gave the short reply which I state above. You did not answer with any of the further descriptives which you listed today in your post above.

For whatever reason, I took the answer, "both mass and energy" in a literal manner, meaning that the pictures in his Universe of pictures did contain both energy and matter and I composed my response accordingly. Since I did not interpret your answer correctly, part of my post needs to be discarded. Its that simple, just throw out the part of my post where I deal with the fact that the pictures contain both matter and energy. It's no big deal. No harm was done so I am going to drop that subject for now.

As an aside, I did have gains composing my response to you based on an answer of yours that I interpreted incorrectly. I had to go through a lot of mental gymnastics in constructing my reply and in doing that I picked up some new insights on the subject so it was worth the effort.

Let's just carry on from this point, no harm was done.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;n2MtEsrcTTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs[/video]

This piece of music is extremely beautiful and the dim lighting and choreography really add to the ambiance. Just watch the couples dance and see how much joy the music and the dance gives them. Also, on knocking the human body as so many schools of thought do, what is with that? The human body can be worthy of celebration if it is maintained and cared for properly. Why not be in harmony with it rather than putting it down. It can be a major contributor to having fun as those dancing couples and the singer illustrate.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I think Dull Old Fart has even more reasons to shake his head at me now.

Not only did I choose to post here
but I am also helping you reach the finish line

(although not really trying, just being talkative!)

Gizmo, I am waiting to hear what you thought of my snip. LOLOL.

Maria, I remember the incident well, It was Mar 3 of this year or thereabouts and I noticed that Dull old Fart had posted here and he hadn't posted here for several years. His post was addressed to you telling you not to tell your story on this thread but rather bring it out as a new thread. I then noticed that you had posted here as well. You were a newbie with only about 3 earlier posts under your belt, your first post on the Apollo thread being your 4th post.

You sounded very interesting and seemed rather intelligent, judging by your first post. Always, the "Great Compromiser" by nature and respecting DOF, I suggested that you post your story in both places simultaneously. This had been done before with Johnny the Magic Thetan and also, for a short time with Face, if I am not mistaken. I suggested doing that to you Maria and you told me that you had chosen this thread to be your home base on ESMB. That turned out to be the correct decision I believe, and I think that you would agree with me on that point.

You gave new life to this thread, and for we regulars who post here, our lives changed for the better when you decided for this thread to be your home base on ESMB.
Lakey

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Well, I asked you whether Plato's pictures contained mass or energy. You simply posted something like, "both mass and energy". I indicated at the time, I believe, that how you answered the question would determine what my response would be. You gave the short reply which I state above. You did not answer with any of the further descriptives which you listed today in your post above.

For whatever reason, I took the answer, "both mass and energy" in a literal manner, meaning that the pictures in is Universe of pictures did contain both energy and matter and I composed my response accordingly. Since I did not interpret your answer correctly, part of my post needs to be discarded. Its that simple, just throw out the part of my post where I deal with the fact that the pictures contain both matter and energy. It's no big deal. No harm was done so I am going to drop that subject for now.

As an aside, I did have gains composing my response to you based on an answer of yours that I interpreted incorrectly. I had to go through a lot of mental gymnastics in constructing reply and in doing that I picked up some new insights on the subject so it was worth the effort.

Let's just carry on from this point, no harm was done.
Lakey

Plato considers mass and physical energy to be part of the world of illusion of time. Mass and energy are just pictures of reality; therefore they are not real. Did I not say it ? So what you assumed I said was correct.

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Maria, I remember the incident well, It was Mar 3 of this year or thereabouts and I noticed that Dull old Fart had posted here and he hadn't posted here for several years. His post was addressed to you telling you not to tell your story on this thread but rather bring it out as a new thread. I then noticed that you had posted here as well. You were a newbie with only about 3 earlier posts under your belt, your first post on the Apollo thread being your 4th post.

You sounded very interesting and seemed rather intelligent, judging by your first post. Always, the "Great Compromiser" by nature and respecting DOF, I suggested that you post your story in both places simultaneously. This had been done before with Johnny the Magic Thetan and also, for a short time with Face, if I am not mistaken. I suggested doing that to you Maria and you told me that you had chosen this thread to be your home base on ESMB. That turned out to be the correct decision I believe, and I think that you would agree with me on that point.

You gave new life to this thread, and for we regulars who post here, our lives changed for the better when you decided for this thread to be your home base on ESMB.
Lakey

Thank you although it is quite a lot of credit to give me there.... One thing I do believe is that by doing so I have avoided some of the ugly fighting on esmb. And I do appreciate the regulars on your thread. It is fun.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Thank you although it is quite a lot of credit to give me there.... One thing I do believe is that by doing so I have avoided some of the ugly fighting on esmb. And I do appreciate the regulars on your thread. It is fun.

I appreciate your modesty, Maria, but I believe that the credit I gave you was appropriate. The early success of the thread was due in large part to me and Carmelo playing off against one another. I was Abbot, he was Costello, He was Laurel, I was Hardy. We were good at playing off against one another. He would post rock music, I would post Classical, I would post pictures of family cars and he would post pictures of hot rods and racers. That formula has worked well in the entertainment business and it worked here.

When he left the Board, I took up with Ma. That was not a complete solution to him not posting here. I did my own thing, which some people like and some people detest. To my credit, I kept the thread going/ For a while i was alone at the helm and we started hitting 3,000 to 4,800 views in one day. The 4,800 was our all time high for one day. This was not that long ago, maybe towards the end of last year.

I remember noticing that many nights there would be over 100 lurkers reading the thread at any given time in the wee hours of the night, Pacific Standard Time. Just before you showed up we started to taper off. Views were as low as in the 300's for a day. For a while, no matter what I wrote, there wasn't much response.

Carmelo and I stay in touch by texting and an occasional phone call and we had decided to get to two million views and then if there is no more interest, just let the thread die out. I was giving my best shot but and was keeping things going but I was only averaging about 700 a day. At that rate, it would have taken 5 more months to hit the 2 million mark. I was losing interest and thinking of kissing off the 2 million goal and letting the thread die out.

That's about when you arrived, Maria. As I read your posts, I saw you as a person who I could play off against, maybe I would be the George Burns and you the Gracie Allen, something like that. As you grooved in, you brought Hats back which was a nice think and then Leon returned after fighting a serious medical condition which also helped. Let's face it Maria, you are the opinion leader around here. Many people really enjoy your posts and that is why they are on this thread now. I enjoy reading your posts. They are honest and educational, and yes, I play off of your posts sometimes in an attempt to stir up interest on the thread but always because you are a good writer and have a lot of valuable wisdom to share with us.

I'm sorry but that is the way I see it. I am virtually fully talked out on the subject of scientology but if I play off of your posts, they give me more new things to write about. I think we now have a real good thing going here similar to what Carmelo and I had several years ago. My compliments are not platitudes, they are honest and the are given because someone earned them. Giving you the credit due you for the recent success of this thread is the least I can do for you.

BTW, I am happy that you were able to avoid a lot of the fighting on other threads and also that you like some of the regulars here and are having fun here.
Lakey

 

[Gizmo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Are you unaware that this particular thread is a bit of salon and that therefore some rules of decorum prevail?
Thus ad hominems are so not.....

It's OK. After awhile it becomes obvious that these scientologists only follow their leader, L.Ron Hubbard.
. They think no other rules apply to them so when they get out in public it's easier to just let 'em wander - they'll return back to the flock soon enough.

Added : Plus sometimes a fellow poster just feels compelled to announce some one got under their skin & therefore a responding post on their part is required.

Back in distant days of yore wasn't that a " Flunk "! on bullbait ? LOL !

Ah.