The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Lakey,

I've been warning people here since I joined myself not to get too caught up with ESMB's Freezoners because it will be doubly hard to get rid of them (and the scientology viewpoints they promote) later.

Getting rid of the cofs is quite hard enough.

Most people gradually change once they join ESMB and start to lose cultic thinking that they sometimes didn't even realise they still had and that's why Maria was unlucky to land (whether by accident or design) on this thread, because there are scientologists on it like you ... and you (just like cofs scientologists) don't seem to understand the concept of confidentiality or personal space and feel quite comfortable asking many questions, then later blabbing all often with your own confused slant added. It has annoyed many lovely, patient people over the years as well you know, because they've told you as they exited the thread, never to return.

Maria was excited when she arrived and enjoyed the Apollo thread but is free to go where she likes on the board and change her mind and opinions as often as she damn well likes and I'm glad that you seem to have accepted that and will be leaving her alone.

You are preaching to the choir, Trouble. I have done more to help her, encourage her and praise her than anyone else on ESMB by a mile. I WILL be leaving her alone. If she wants to resume our friendship she would have to contact me,

If you were a totally fair person, you would thank me for all the encouragement and support which I have given her. In your eyes am a scientologist, which is an incorrect descriptive, nevertheless, I did everything in my power for 4 months to promote a person who is a total non scientologist. How do you explain me doing that? Probably you will justify that by suggesting that I did it because I wanted a 2d with her.

The truth was that I helped and promoted her when she first arrived on the thread and after I found out that no 2d was available.

Why did I do that? Because I am not a scientologist, My highest trump car is truth but scientology is based on lies. FZ scientology isn't based as much on lies as CoS but still there are some lies, especially in things such as the work of Captain Bill. Right from the beginning I thought Maria to be intelligent, knowledgeable, a good writer and truthful. With all 4 of the those attributes, I decided to encourage her and help her any way I could. How about giving me a little credit for that?
Lakey

 

[Anonycat]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

You are preaching to the choir, Trouble. I have done more to help her, encourage her and praise her than anyone else on ESMB by a mile. I WILL be leaving her alone. If she wants to resume our friendship she would have to contact me, I will no longer contact her unless she contacts me.

If you were a totally fair person, you would thank me for all the encouragement and support which I have given her. I, in your eyes am a scientologist, which is an incorrect descriptive, nevertheless, I did everything in my power for 4 months to promote a person who is a total non scientologist. How do you explain me doing that? Probably you will justify that by suggesting that I did it because I wanted a 2d with her.

The truth is that it took me about a month before I had any feelings for her but I promoted her and helped her when she first showed up. And for about 3 months after she made it clear that she did not want a 2d with me, I still promoted her and helped her.

Why did I do that? Because I am not a scientologist, My highest trump car is truth but scientology is based on lies. Right from the beginning I thought Maria to be intelligent, knowledgeable, a good writer and truthful. With all 4 of the those attributes, I decided to encourage her and help her any way I could. How about giving me a little credit for that?
Lakey

You have done nothing to help her, in fact you asked her to help you. You also said you'd drop it, and didn't. You're a liar. Yep, you wanted a cult-speak 2-D. Derp. Give it up, and let it go. You were a dick and fucked it all up ungracefully. I give you credit for that. Can you find it within yourself to STFU and just be a 75 year old on a ex forum?

 

[strativarius]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Originally Posted by strativarius

... if it dies, it dies ...

Where have I heard that before?!

At least six people lol'd this and some liked it. I must have missed something, so can someboby plse share the joke with me?

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

At least six people lol'd this and some liked it. I must have missed something, so can someboby plse share the joke with me?

There's a thread on it ... to do with David Miscavige and his Pop.

Hang on a moment and I'll find it for ya.

Here you go ...

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?39854-Scientology-leader%92s-father-signs-a-book-deal-for-%91IF-HE-DIES-HE-DIES%92

 

[strativarius]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

There's a thread on it ... to do with David Miscavige and his Pop.

Hang on a moment and I'll find it for ya.

Here you go ...

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...igns-a-book-deal-for-%91IF-HE-DIES-HE-DIES%92

Thanks for taking the trouble, trouble (see what I did there)? Yes, the penny dropped as soon as I read your post. BTW, I must say you don't look 97 years old in your avatar.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Thanks for taking the trouble, trouble (see what I did there)? Yes, the penny dropped as soon as I read your post. BTW, I must say you don't look 97 years old in your avatar. xx

The photographer sprayed some special stuff on the lens to iron out (blur) all my hideous bits and pieces and make me look about 4.

It worked very well, took 9 decades off me ...

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Lakey,

I've been warning people here since I joined myself not to get too caught up with ESMB's Freezoners because it will be doubly hard to get rid of them (and the scientology viewpoints they promote) later.

Getting rid of the cofs is quite hard enough.

 

[Gizmo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Originally Posted by strativarius

... if it dies, it dies ... Where have I heard that before?!

Stratty, the OP of this thread has said numerous times let the thread run, when it dies it dies.

Then, of course, he endlessly bumps the thread pontificating about with all kinds of odd ball drivel googled up to try to get responses to keep his thread going.

Oh, if you response to one of his posts ? Do expect to be graded.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

You have done nothing to help her, in fact you asked her to help you. You also said you'd drop it, and didn't. You're a liar. Yep, you wanted a cult-speak 2-D. Derp. Give it up, and let it go. You were a dick and fucked it all up ungracefully. I give you credit for that. Can you find it within yourself to STFU and just be a 75 year old on a ex forum

I didn't put you on IGNORE last night but will do so now. I lived through this experience. Where do you get your information from? I scrupulously have avoided telling lies my whole life. Calling me a liar is like calling Jesus a sinner. I just don't lie, I don't do it. I am going to file a complaint against you using your sentence above (in bold) as the reason for my complaint. You degrade me, not my ideas of thoughts. That is an ESMB violation and I am going to turn you in and hope you get suspended.

To make any such allegations, you would have to have some hard facts or evidence at your disposal but all of your claims are just figments of your imagination used to back up your evil assertions. Talk is cheap, on ESMB one needs facts to slur a person as you do above. I hope they have the integrity to enforce their rules because if they do you will be warned if not suspended. Look forward to a visit from the Moderator.
Lakey

 

[Gizmo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

You are preaching to the choir, Trouble. I have done more to help her, encourage her and praise her
than anyone else on ESMB by a mile. I WILL be leaving her alone. If she wants to resume our friendship
she would have to contact me,

If you were a totally fair person, you would thank me for all the encouragement and support which I have given her.
In your eyes am a scientologist, which is an incorrect descriptive, nevertheless, I did everything in my power for 4 months
to promote a person who is a total non scientologist. How do you explain me doing that? Probably you will justify that by
suggesting that I did it because I wanted a 2d with her.

The truth was that I helped and promoted her when she first arrived on the thread and after I found out that no 2d was available.

Why did I do that? Because I am not a scientologist, My highest trump car is truth but scientology is based on lies. FZ scientology isn't based as much on lies as CoS but still there are some lies, especially in things such as the work of Captain Bill. Right from the beginning I thought Maria to be intelligent, knowledgeable, a good writer and truthful. With all 4 of the those attributes, I decided to encourage her and help her any way I could. How about giving me a little credit for that?
composed & directed by the lkwdblds

lkwdblds, my man !

Yes, truth, but it is YOUR truth you insist on others accepting as THE truth - and your truth in this instance just it isn't the truth.

[ Just reading between the lines from what was posted & lkwdblds likely M.O. with previous women :

Might closer to the truth be that after she flat out told him that she had NO INTEREST he persisted & pursued having a relationship with one little clever trick after another to try to win her over?

. . . . . . wonder if I should PM her & get her side of the wonderfulness she 'broke off' ? . . . . . . . . . 'truth be told' & all that ]

You claim there was a "friendship" - do you think she agreed with that ? ( other posters have pointed out, uh, online acquaintance )

You have repeatedly mentioned your 2D interest - How long after she said no interest did you pursue your 2D interest in her ?
( Never mind you say you are not a scientologist but still have to say "2D" instead of what everybody but a scientologist calls a relationship )

In your own words, you have described what you thought was a "reach" (<- another scientologist word) from a woman that turned out wasn't.
So, you have seen what you 'thought' was not what the other person thought - and very recently !

You said it ( that potential relationship with Maria ) didn't turn out the way you wanted it to turn out but that now you'd still do it the same way if you had it to do over.
That statement DEFINES an unwillingness to learn.

If you are so willing to let it go why do you keep bringing it up ?
Why have you kept posting about it after she is gone from here ?
Is that really being willing to leave her alone?

 

[ILove2Lurk]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

mer,

FYI, most of the threads on ESMB are pretty loose and easy going and anything goes.

I think this thread has a few more rules, as far as I know. (I'm not a regular here.)

You might want to check with its proprietor, just to be safe.
Or . . . just start your own thread and don't worry about a thing.

You seem computer literate!

I tried to give Maria some friendly advice back in February when she first arrived.

Tried to save her some future sorrow.

Well, life does provide some bumps and bruises . . . especially on some threads more than others. :wink2:

 

[Anonycat]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I didn't put you on IGNORE last night but will do so now. I lived through this experience. Where do you get your information from? I scrupulously have avoided telling lies my whole life. Calling me a liar is like calling Jesus a sinner. I just don't lie, I don't do it. I am going to file a complaint against you using your sentence above (in bold) as the reason for my complaint. You degrade me, not my ideas of thoughts. That is an ESMB violation and I am going to turn you in and hope you get suspended.

To make any such allegations, you would have to have some hard facts or evidence at your disposal but all of your claims are just figments of your imagination used to back up your evil assertions. Talk is cheap, on ESMB one needs facts to slur a person as you do above. I hope they have the integrity to enforce their rules because if they do you will be warned if not suspended. Look forward to a visit from the Moderator.
Lakey

Someone just went all Orange County Republican on me! Since you can't read my reply, I'll just do what Jesus would want. You said you'd never post about this again, and you still are, thus, liar. Secondly, you speculate that I am posting figments of my imagination, which I just never do. Maria has explained everything to me, in detail. If you think slurring you is reading something you posted yesterday, and then watching you do what you said you would not do, and calling you out on it ... well, you made this pretty easy for anyone. Pull yourself together, Jesus.

 

[Gizmo]

2D !

2 D

Once again we have someone saying another person they want to be their 2 D or have a 2 D with.

YIKES ! PLEASE !

If someone HAS to use that cult speak to express themselves, so be it.

But, it would be less grating to people who actually UNDERSTAND the cult speak for cult speak to be properly done.

2 D. That is the SECOND DYNAMIC. The WHOLE dynamic.

2 D TERMINAL. That is a PERSON on the second dynamic - not the whole damn dynamic.

<><><><><><>

This forever concludes my KSW 1 lesson for readers ( < - 3 D terminal ) of the Apollo thread ( <- 3D group ) on ESMB ( < - another 3 D group )

<><><><><><>

For those so inclined, write a KR or a cram

 

[Gizmo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Someone just went all Orange County Republican on me! Since you can't read my reply, I'll just do what Jesus would want. You said you'd never post about this again, and you still are, thus, liar. Secondly, you speculate that I am posting figments of my imagination, which I just never do. Maria has explained everything to me, in detail. If you think slurring you is reading something you posted yesterday, and then watching you do what you said you would not do, and calling you out on it ... well, you made this pretty easy for anyone. Pull yourself together, Jesus.

Somehow somebody around here is completely certain they are the ONLY ONE who communicates with other people.

What you have posted is true.

I'd like to not post here, but, my friend Maria who left here is a nice person who does not deserve being portrayed so incorrectly with lies.

I guess the bully threat of ' calling the moderator ' applied to me, too.

 

[Leland]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I tried to give Maria some friendly advice back in February when she first arrived.

Tried to save her some future sorrow.

Well, life does provide some bumps and bruises . . . especially on some threads more than others. :wink2:

First...i don't know what this current situation if all about....But...that won't stop me from posting

I too thought it was kinda weird when Maria joined that Maria was posting on the Apollo thread. I stated such to her....

Maria, I believe stated that she had asked and was given permission to post on the thread.

I figured that lkwdblds just wanted some fresh meat and new posts to keep his "stats" up....and his Thread....."ahead of the pack"......and perhaps a pretty woman to chat with....

I never understood Maria's decision to just start posting stuff on the Thread....that had nothing to do with the thread....or the Apollo...at all...??

Seemed weird.

 

[Gizmo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I didn't put you on IGNORE last night but will do so now. I lived through this experience. Where do you get your information from? I scrupulously have avoided telling lies my whole life. Calling me a liar is like calling Jesus a sinner. I just don't lie, I don't do it. I am going to file a complaint against you using your sentence above (in bold) as the reason for my complaint. You degrade me, not my ideas of thoughts. That is an ESMB violation and I am going to turn you in and hope you get suspended.

To make any such allegations, you would have to have some hard facts or evidence at your disposal but all of your claims are just figments of your imagination used to back up your evil assertions. Talk is cheap, on ESMB one needs facts to slur a person as you do above. I hope they have the integrity to enforce their rules because if they do you will be warned if not suspended. Look forward to a visit from the Moderator.
lkwdblds

lkwdblds, I am getting my information from the person you are talking about, Maria.

So, I DO have the hard facts & evidence at my disposal.

When push comes to shove on who is a liar ? Maria can ( and HAS ) set it straight.

You are lying about her.

All that is happening here is people who know the truth are not letting your lies go without comment.

It is called defending a friend who isn't here - right now.

It is you who degrade yourself.

 

[Gizmo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

First...i don't know what this current situation if all about....But...that won't stop me from posting

I too thought it was kinda weird when Maria joined that Maria was posting on the Apollo thread. I stated such to her....

Maria, I believe stated that she had asked and was given permission to post on the thread.I figured that Lakey just wanted some fresh meat and new posts to keep his "stats" up....and his Thread....."ahead of the pack"......and perhaps a pretty woman to chat with....

I never understood Maria's decision to just start posting stuff on the Thread....that had nothing to do with the thread....or the Apollo...at all...??

Seemed weird.

What's weird is no one needs to be given permission to post on an open forum.

 

[Anonycat]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

You need to mind your own business and stay out of people's personal lives. I broke off a friendship you idiot, not a relationship. I did not call her fickle. I played an aria suggesting that Women in general are fickle and I did not do that until AFTER she left the thread! That aria is one of the most popular arias of all opera, Pieces that are played and enjoyed for 150 years of so, tend to have an element of truth in them or they wouldn't last. Neither Verdi nor his librettist was raked over the coals for writing that aria.

Maria contacted me first by PM, she asked me to watch a movie and then discus it with her by phone. i did so, we had several long phone calls, all 2 1/2 hours to 3 hours long. I started to develop some feelings for her. I an not ashamed of that, that is the behavior of a normal man. I asked her about a relationship and she wasn't interested. I accepted it.

She kept reaching for me. As friends, this was a two way street both friends reaching for one another. The more activities we did, the more I liked her as a friend. Of course, I hoped that she might change her mind about me but she made it very clear to not talk about that area and I honored her wishes. I did not break anything off. She cut off an activity we had embarked on last week, unilaterally on her own. Yesterday she unilaterally broke off posting on the Apollo thread.

I am willing to resume the activity we were doing last week, she is more than welcome to continue posting on the Apollo thread. I can't stop her even if I want to but if she want's to come back I am fine with that. I am totally over wanting any kind of 2d with her but I am still willing to be friends. She broke off with me in an activity we were doing last week and also broke of from posting on the Apollo thread. She's welcome to resume posting here if she likes or quit posting here if she likes.

It is just so annoying to have people such as yourself pry into my life and accuse me of various misdeeds. I am proud that she and I were friends. I am proud that I liked her, I am proud that I asked her up front if she would be interested in having a relationship with me. I am proud that I accepted her decision to just be friends. I am proud that in the back of my mind I still hoped that she might change her mind. I am proud that I no longer have any 2d aspirations for her. If I had it all to do over, I would do it exactly the exact same way and I am proud of that too.

I'm putting you on Ignore tonight, that will make 5 uninformed people who I no longer will have to read. There are so many uninformed, hateful people on ESMB that its becoming questionable as to whether or not its worth the time and effort to read all the shit like your post above. You know nothing and don't know what the hell you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lakey

First, I don't "need" to do anything you ask. Secondly, Maria has contacted me, and that makes it my business. Just as much as you, only she has a desire to exchange messages with me. So, should I tell you to stop talking about MY friend and mind your own business? You really are a piece of work.

Third, she says she was not your friend, and that is what YOU said. There you go, with 'fickle' and 'breaking it off' again. I now wonder if you've ever had a restraining order filed on you. I'm creeped out, and I'm not even a woman that you obsessed on. That said, she's 20 years younger than you. Go to a dating site and check out the 95 year-olds for some perspective. That's really not the point, as much as you and your actions. I'm not "uninformed" but you are! Funny, isn't it? "Hateful", because I told the truth about you? Awww. Tough shit. Clearly, she didn't want to be your friend, and you are kinda ... well, read the post of yours I quoted. Stalker-ish? Obsessed? In a dreamworld? Bitter? I'd throw all that in a blender and call that the right combination.

This kind of lashing out you have done demonstrates to me how unwilling you are to accept people, their feelings, and opinions. You cannot "Create", that's a cult lie. If you really had any empathy and acceptance, you wouldn't be lying and writing as you are. It's fine to be wrong, I'm not scolding you for that, but when other people get dragged into your personality dramas, someone like me just might point it out. Let's hope your next acquaintance (her words) is not subject to your interest. She was not your friend. Neither am I. Accept it.

 

[Leland]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

What's weird is no one needs to be given permission to post on an open forum.

Perhaps, Maria, new to the board...wanted her posts seen....so choose a thread that was most looked at? I just don't know.

 

[Anonycat]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

For a long time this thread has been the lounge, and sometimes even about the Apollo. Topics come and go, so it's interesting on that basis. I for one, am ready for a new topic here. After I take a bath.