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USC Classical Radio Station Rates the 100 Top Classical Pieces of All Time!
USC, the University of California run an FM radio station, KUSC which plays nothing but Classical Music. They are the only classical station remaining in Southern California. KUSC has no commercials and is listener supported. I authorize them to draw $15 a month from my checking account monthly. For decades there was a commercial radio station in L.A. playing classiscal music, KFAC. The reorganized and became KMZT. That station went off the air in L.A. about 7 years ago.
Anyway, KUSC decided to have a contest to pick the top 100 pieces of classical music of all time. They allowed a period of voting from their audience and then tabulated the results. A ranking from number 100 down to number 1 was established and over about one week, they played one or two of the top 100 pieces per hour during prime time. Yesterday at about 5:00 pm they played number 1.
The rankings are quite interesting. I figured that Beethoven's 9th symphony would be number #1 and it was but numbers two and three completely caught me off guard. The number 3 classical masterpiece of all time was voted to be "Rhapsody in Blue" by George Gershwin. The number 2 piece of all time was voted to be the New World Symphony by Antonin Dvorak. Even number 5 was unexpected, it was Antonio Vivaldi"s "The 4 Seasons".
The rankings were dominated by Beethoven with 10 pieces. His symphonies #3, #5, #6, #7 and #9 were all near the top of the list with #9 winning the competition. J.S. Bach would have to be declared to have won second place with 9 pieces and the #4 piece. Mozart had 8 pieces on the list which was third best but his highest ranking piece, the Requiem Mass was only #21. Several of my favorite Mozart pieces did not make the list including the religious aria, Laudate Dominun, and the orchestral work, "Sinfonia Concertante". Schubert's glorious religious aria, "Ave Maria" also did not make it. Joseph Haydn, perhaps the 4th greatest classical composer of all time did not even get one piece voted onto the list.
Here is the entire list:
KUSC Classical Top 100 CountdownSchubert's glorious religious aria, "Ave M
April 22-29 on Classical KUSC
What’s your favorite piece of classical music? KUSC asked you to pick your favorites, and during the last week in April, we counted them down. Now, we present to you The KUSC Classical Top 100 - as chosen by you!
100 Chopin: Fantaisie Impromptu in c# minor
99 Mussorgsky: Night on Bald Mountain
98 Mendelssohn: Midsummer Night's Dream
97 Borodin: In the Steppes of Central Asia
96 Brahms: Piano Concerto #2
95 Schubert: Unfinished Symphony
94 Tchaikovsky: Symphony #4
93 Mendelssohn: Symphony #4 "Italian"
92 Beethoven: Piano Concerto #4
91 Mahler: Adagietto
90 Wagner: Rienzi Overture
89 Khachaturian: Spartacus Adagio
88 Rossini: William Tell Overture
87 Delibes: Flower Duet
86 Mozart: Don Giovanni
85 Debussy: Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun
84 Shore: Lord of the Rings
83 Ravel: Pavane for a Dead Princess
82 Bruch: Violin Concerto #1
81 Schubert: Symphony #9 "Great"
80 Mozart: Symphony #40
79 Puccini: La Boheme
78 Bach: Air on the G String
77 Rachmaninoff: Symphony #2
76 Mozart: Clarinet Concerto
75 Schubert: Trout Quintet
74 Albinoni: Adagio in g minor
73 Bizet: Carmen
72 Massenet: Meditation from "Thais"
71 Bach: Sheep May Safely Graze
70 Grieg: Peer Gynt
69 Wagner: Ride of the Valkyries
68 Mozart: Magic Flute
67 Chopin: Piano Concerto #1
66 Brahms: Symphony #1
65 Mozart: Piano Concerto #21
64 Dvorak: Cello Concerto
63 Sibelius: Symphony #2
62 Grieg: Piano Concerto
61 Beethoven: Violin Concerto
60 Copland: Fanfare for the Common Man
59 Prokofiev: Romeo & Juliet
58 Beethoven: Fur Elise
57 Puccini: Nessun Dorma
56 Mozart: Marriage of Figaro
55 Bach: Cello Suite #1
54 Brahms: Symphony #4
53 Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto #3
52 Strauss: Blue Danube Waltz
51 Faure: Requiem
50 Wagner: Siegfried Idyll
49 Bach: Mass in b minor
48 Ravel: Bolero
47 Stravinsky: The Firebird
46 Mahler: Symphony #1
45 Satie: Gymnopedies
44 Brahms: German Requiem
43 Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
42 Elgar: Enigma Variations
41 Bach: Concerto for 2 Violins
40 Williams: Theme from "Star Wars"
39 Handel: Water Music
38 Mozart: Symphony #41 "Jupiter"
37 Mendelssohn: Violin Concerto
36 Beethoven: Symphony #3 "Eroica"
35 Orff: Carmina Burana
34 Sibelius: Finlandia
33 Mozart: Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
32 Saint-Saens: Symphony #3 "Organ"
31 Rachmaninoff: Paganini Rhapsody
30 Tchaikovsky: Swan Lake
29 Bach: Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring
28 Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending
27 Bach: Toccata & Fugue in d minor
26 Smetana: The Moldau
25 Bach: Goldberg Variations
24 Rodrigo: Concierto de Aranjuez
23 Tchaikovsky: Violin Concerto
22 Beethoven: Moonlight Sonata
21 Mozart: Requiem
20 Copland: Appalachian Spring
19 Holst: The Planets
18 Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto #1
17 Barber: Adagio for Strings
16 Vaughan Williams: Tallis Fantasy
15 Debussy: Clair de Lune
14 Tchaikovsky: 1812 Overture
13 Handel: Messiah
12 Pachelbel: Canon
11 Beethoven: Symphony #7
10 Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade
9 Beethoven: Symphony #5
8 Beethoven: Piano Concerto #5 "Emperor"
7 Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto #2
6 Beethoven: Symphony #6 "Pastoral"
5 Vivaldi: Four Seasons
4 Bach: Brandenburg Concertos
3 Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue
2 Dvorak: New World Symphony
1 Beethoven: Symphony #9
USC, the University of California run an FM radio station, KUSC which plays nothing but Classical Music. They are the only classical station remaining in Southern California. KUSC has no commercials and is listener supported. I authorize them to draw $15 a month from my checking account monthly. For decades there was a commercial radio station in L.A. playing classiscal music, KFAC. The reorganized and became KMZT. That station went off the air in L.A. about 7 years ago.
Anyway, KUSC decided to have a contest to pick the top 100 pieces of classical music of all time. They allowed a period of voting from their audience and then tabulated the results. A ranking from number 100 down to number 1 was established and over about one week, they played one or two of the top 100 pieces per hour during prime time. Yesterday at about 5:00 pm they played number 1.
The rankings are quite interesting. I figured that Beethoven's 9th symphony would be number #1 and it was but numbers two and three completely caught me off guard. The number 3 classical masterpiece of all time was voted to be "Rhapsody in Blue" by George Gershwin. The number 2 piece of all time was voted to be the New World Symphony by Antonin Dvorak. Even number 5 was unexpected, it was Antonio Vivaldi"s "The 4 Seasons".
The rankings were dominated by Beethoven with 10 pieces. His symphonies #3, #5, #6, #7 and #9 were all near the top of the list with #9 winning the competition. J.S. Bach would have to be declared to have won second place with 9 pieces and the #4 piece. Mozart had 8 pieces on the list which was third best but his highest ranking piece, the Requiem Mass was only #21. Several of my favorite Mozart pieces did not make the list including the religious aria, Laudate Dominun, and the orchestral work, "Sinfonia Concertante". Schubert's glorious religious aria, "Ave Maria" also did not make it. Joseph Haydn, perhaps the 4th greatest classical composer of all time did not even get one piece voted onto the list.
Here is the entire list:
KUSC Classical Top 100 CountdownSchubert's glorious religious aria, "Ave M
April 22-29 on Classical KUSC
What’s your favorite piece of classical music? KUSC asked you to pick your favorites, and during the last week in April, we counted them down. Now, we present to you The KUSC Classical Top 100 - as chosen by you!
100 Chopin: Fantaisie Impromptu in c# minor
99 Mussorgsky: Night on Bald Mountain
98 Mendelssohn: Midsummer Night's Dream
97 Borodin: In the Steppes of Central Asia
96 Brahms: Piano Concerto #2
95 Schubert: Unfinished Symphony
94 Tchaikovsky: Symphony #4
93 Mendelssohn: Symphony #4 "Italian"
92 Beethoven: Piano Concerto #4
91 Mahler: Adagietto
90 Wagner: Rienzi Overture
89 Khachaturian: Spartacus Adagio
88 Rossini: William Tell Overture
87 Delibes: Flower Duet
86 Mozart: Don Giovanni
85 Debussy: Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun
84 Shore: Lord of the Rings
83 Ravel: Pavane for a Dead Princess
82 Bruch: Violin Concerto #1
81 Schubert: Symphony #9 "Great"
80 Mozart: Symphony #40
79 Puccini: La Boheme
78 Bach: Air on the G String
77 Rachmaninoff: Symphony #2
76 Mozart: Clarinet Concerto
75 Schubert: Trout Quintet
74 Albinoni: Adagio in g minor
73 Bizet: Carmen
72 Massenet: Meditation from "Thais"
71 Bach: Sheep May Safely Graze
70 Grieg: Peer Gynt
69 Wagner: Ride of the Valkyries
68 Mozart: Magic Flute
67 Chopin: Piano Concerto #1
66 Brahms: Symphony #1
65 Mozart: Piano Concerto #21
64 Dvorak: Cello Concerto
63 Sibelius: Symphony #2
62 Grieg: Piano Concerto
61 Beethoven: Violin Concerto
60 Copland: Fanfare for the Common Man
59 Prokofiev: Romeo & Juliet
58 Beethoven: Fur Elise
57 Puccini: Nessun Dorma
56 Mozart: Marriage of Figaro
55 Bach: Cello Suite #1
54 Brahms: Symphony #4
53 Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto #3
52 Strauss: Blue Danube Waltz
51 Faure: Requiem
50 Wagner: Siegfried Idyll
49 Bach: Mass in b minor
48 Ravel: Bolero
47 Stravinsky: The Firebird
46 Mahler: Symphony #1
45 Satie: Gymnopedies
44 Brahms: German Requiem
43 Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
42 Elgar: Enigma Variations
41 Bach: Concerto for 2 Violins
40 Williams: Theme from "Star Wars"
39 Handel: Water Music
38 Mozart: Symphony #41 "Jupiter"
37 Mendelssohn: Violin Concerto
36 Beethoven: Symphony #3 "Eroica"
35 Orff: Carmina Burana
34 Sibelius: Finlandia
33 Mozart: Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
32 Saint-Saens: Symphony #3 "Organ"
31 Rachmaninoff: Paganini Rhapsody
30 Tchaikovsky: Swan Lake
29 Bach: Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring
28 Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending
27 Bach: Toccata & Fugue in d minor
26 Smetana: The Moldau
25 Bach: Goldberg Variations
24 Rodrigo: Concierto de Aranjuez
23 Tchaikovsky: Violin Concerto
22 Beethoven: Moonlight Sonata
21 Mozart: Requiem
20 Copland: Appalachian Spring
19 Holst: The Planets
18 Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto #1
17 Barber: Adagio for Strings
16 Vaughan Williams: Tallis Fantasy
15 Debussy: Clair de Lune
14 Tchaikovsky: 1812 Overture
13 Handel: Messiah
12 Pachelbel: Canon
11 Beethoven: Symphony #7
10 Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade
9 Beethoven: Symphony #5
8 Beethoven: Piano Concerto #5 "Emperor"
7 Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto #2
6 Beethoven: Symphony #6 "Pastoral"
5 Vivaldi: Four Seasons
4 Bach: Brandenburg Concertos
3 Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue
2 Dvorak: New World Symphony
1 Beethoven: Symphony #9
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Cat's Squirrel
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
I don't claim to know as much about classical music as you do Lakey, but that's a remarkably good list IMO and covers pretty much all the pieces I like as well as including plenty I don't know. The only omission for me is Elgar's Cello Concerto.
Here's one of the more celebrated versions;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUgdbqt2ON0
I don't claim to know as much about classical music as you do Lakey, but that's a remarkably good list IMO and covers pretty much all the pieces I like as well as including plenty I don't know. The only omission for me is Elgar's Cello Concerto.
Here's one of the more celebrated versions;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUgdbqt2ON0
lkwdblds
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Two Immortal Arias Which Did Not Make it Onto KUSC''s Toop 100 List
Here are two immortal pieces which did not make it onto KUSC's Top 100 List
Franz Schubert's "Ave Maria"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBt9yZDslA
Mozart's "Laudate Dominum"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQS7_xhREKk
Note: this video has some minor sound problems but Cecelia Bartoli has the best rendition on youtube so it is worth it to post her version
Also, Joseph Haydn, perhaps the 4th greatest classical composer of all time, didn't make the list. He wrote 104 Symphonies, almost all of which are masterpieces, how about Symphony #99 to salute him;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVp-nuOPKlo
Lakey
Here are two immortal pieces which did not make it onto KUSC's Top 100 List
Franz Schubert's "Ave Maria"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBt9yZDslA
Mozart's "Laudate Dominum"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQS7_xhREKk
Note: this video has some minor sound problems but Cecelia Bartoli has the best rendition on youtube so it is worth it to post her version
Also, Joseph Haydn, perhaps the 4th greatest classical composer of all time, didn't make the list. He wrote 104 Symphonies, almost all of which are masterpieces, how about Symphony #99 to salute him;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVp-nuOPKlo
Lakey
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Maria Cuervo
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Re: USC Classical Radio Station Rates the 100 Top Classical Pieces of All Time!
I choose 47 - Stravinsky, The Firebird. Using nijinski's choreography for the dancers....
I choose 47 - Stravinsky, The Firebird. Using nijinski's choreography for the dancers....
Cat's Squirrel
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Allegri's "Miserere" should have made the list too. It's one of those pieces of music which at its best makes time seem to stand still when it's over.
I can't choose between these two versions so I've posted both of them;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lC7V8hG198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24UnJlSKgYk
Allegri's "Miserere" should have made the list too. It's one of those pieces of music which at its best makes time seem to stand still when it's over.
I can't choose between these two versions so I've posted both of them;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lC7V8hG198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24UnJlSKgYk
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Cat's Squirrel
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Arvo Part's "Spiegel Im Spiegel" should perhaps be there too;
(EDIT: just listened to it again and it should definitely be there.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZe3mXlnfNc
Arvo Part's "Spiegel Im Spiegel" should perhaps be there too;
(EDIT: just listened to it again and it should definitely be there.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZe3mXlnfNc
Maria Cuervo
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yzPsJ_ikpGE[/video]
stravinsky conducts Stravinsky's firebird
[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yzPsJ_ikpGE[/video]
stravinsky conducts Stravinsky's firebird
lkwdblds
Crusader
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Yes, Cat, I agree that it's a pretty good list. I really liked Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue taking 3rd place. I wasn't sure that Gershwin was even a classical composer, he is sort of high end jazz and popular music plus classical, all combined They played it yesterday while I was driving and I listened to it very closely, it is a really fine piece of classical music. I believe Gershwin was the only American composer to make the list.
On Elgar's Cello Concerto, I am not familiar with it, I will try and listen to it today.
On Beethoven being so popular, I have a bit of reservation. Like I said recently, I'll only listen to his 9th symphony about once a year. They played it on KUSC yesterday while I was driving and I turned it off because I have already heard it in the last year. Same thing for his Emperor Piano Concerto #5. Been there, done that, it is too bombastic for my tastes. It is a fine piano concerto but about once a year is all I can take. My favorite Beethoven piece is his Symphony #6, the Pastoral. I would put that in the number 1 position in my rankings.
The thing with me is that with some composers, I never tire of listening to them and each time I hear one of their pieces I hear things that I never heard before. I do get that experience with Beethoven's symphonies 3,5,6 and 7 but for symphony 9 and his Emperor piano concerto, they are too bombastic for my taste. I've heard them, they are great works but I never hear anything new when I hear them again. Beethoven's 9th Symphony is sort of an exposition of Beethoven's take on life, God and humanity. The Choral part is based on Schiller's Ode to Joy.
Schiller was a German philosopher, right? So Beethoven's views on life must have aligned well with Schiller's for Beethoven to choose Schiller's "Ode to Joy" to set to music in perhaps his most important work, written towards the end of his life. I don't think that Schiller is perceived as one of the top minds in the history of philosophy, maybe Maria can comment. So you have Beethoven, basically an unhappy man, with no family of his own , worrying about his nephew and fighting viscously to take his nephew from his sister in law. He was a misfit in everyday life but a giant in other areas. He adopts lyrics from Schiller and makes his statement about life. Beethoven wanted to control his own destiny. He puts this into his music by focusing on emotion and power.
Anyway Cat, your point is well taken. In any list of the top 100 of anything, classical music, popular music, movies, restaurants, cities to visit, etc., not everyone is going to be 100% happy. People are always going to complain that some particular items were left off of the list. That being said, the KUSC list of the top 100 is a damn good list! The KUSC listeners seem to be quite knowlegeable and by and large, they made excellent selections. I agree with you.
Lakey
Yes, Cat, I agree that it's a pretty good list. I really liked Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue taking 3rd place. I wasn't sure that Gershwin was even a classical composer, he is sort of high end jazz and popular music plus classical, all combined They played it yesterday while I was driving and I listened to it very closely, it is a really fine piece of classical music. I believe Gershwin was the only American composer to make the list.
On Elgar's Cello Concerto, I am not familiar with it, I will try and listen to it today.
On Beethoven being so popular, I have a bit of reservation. Like I said recently, I'll only listen to his 9th symphony about once a year. They played it on KUSC yesterday while I was driving and I turned it off because I have already heard it in the last year. Same thing for his Emperor Piano Concerto #5. Been there, done that, it is too bombastic for my tastes. It is a fine piano concerto but about once a year is all I can take. My favorite Beethoven piece is his Symphony #6, the Pastoral. I would put that in the number 1 position in my rankings.
The thing with me is that with some composers, I never tire of listening to them and each time I hear one of their pieces I hear things that I never heard before. I do get that experience with Beethoven's symphonies 3,5,6 and 7 but for symphony 9 and his Emperor piano concerto, they are too bombastic for my taste. I've heard them, they are great works but I never hear anything new when I hear them again. Beethoven's 9th Symphony is sort of an exposition of Beethoven's take on life, God and humanity. The Choral part is based on Schiller's Ode to Joy.
Schiller was a German philosopher, right? So Beethoven's views on life must have aligned well with Schiller's for Beethoven to choose Schiller's "Ode to Joy" to set to music in perhaps his most important work, written towards the end of his life. I don't think that Schiller is perceived as one of the top minds in the history of philosophy, maybe Maria can comment. So you have Beethoven, basically an unhappy man, with no family of his own , worrying about his nephew and fighting viscously to take his nephew from his sister in law. He was a misfit in everyday life but a giant in other areas. He adopts lyrics from Schiller and makes his statement about life. Beethoven wanted to control his own destiny. He puts this into his music by focusing on emotion and power.
Anyway Cat, your point is well taken. In any list of the top 100 of anything, classical music, popular music, movies, restaurants, cities to visit, etc., not everyone is going to be 100% happy. People are always going to complain that some particular items were left off of the list. That being said, the KUSC list of the top 100 is a damn good list! The KUSC listeners seem to be quite knowlegeable and by and large, they made excellent selections. I agree with you.
Lakey
lkwdblds
Crusader
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
You know, I am still friends with a guy I met in junior high school in the 7th grade. His Dad was the official photographer for the Hollywood Bowl for many years, I believe from 1929 well into the 1960's. His Dad's name was Otto Rothschild, he died many years ago but he left my friend with a collection of his photographs. Eventually, a restaurant called Otto's was opened next door to the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in downtown L.A.. The restaurant featured a gallery of Otto's photos.
Anyway, my friend told me that his Dad, Otto, took him along for the ride when he went to visit two celebrities in the late 1940's to discuss the photographs which Otto had taken of them recently at their Hollywood Bowl appearances. The two men were Igor Stravinsky and Walt Disney. On Stravinsky, my friend, then 8 or 9 was introduced to him and was given something to read or play with while his father conducted business with Stravinsky. When they said goodbye, Stravinski shook hands with him.
With the Walt Disney experience, there was a bit more interaction. Disney had a basement in his home and there was a large model train set in the basement. The train was big enough for a kid to sit on and my friend rode the train around down in Walt Disney's basement while his Dad conducted business with Walt. Again at the goodbye, Walt shook hands with my friend.
Here is a link to some of Otto's photos: https://www.google.com/search?q=ott...&ei=hkxCVembD8THogSo84G4BQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&dpr=1
Eventually, after many years, Otto's Restaurant was renamed and a new format was adopted so most of the photos were taken down. I believe a few photos remained behind. My friend didn't know what to do with all those photos and he eventually donated them to the UCLA library. They can all be viewed there at this time.
I saw the entire set back in the 70's, it is very impressive!!
Lakey
You know, I am still friends with a guy I met in junior high school in the 7th grade. His Dad was the official photographer for the Hollywood Bowl for many years, I believe from 1929 well into the 1960's. His Dad's name was Otto Rothschild, he died many years ago but he left my friend with a collection of his photographs. Eventually, a restaurant called Otto's was opened next door to the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in downtown L.A.. The restaurant featured a gallery of Otto's photos.
Anyway, my friend told me that his Dad, Otto, took him along for the ride when he went to visit two celebrities in the late 1940's to discuss the photographs which Otto had taken of them recently at their Hollywood Bowl appearances. The two men were Igor Stravinsky and Walt Disney. On Stravinsky, my friend, then 8 or 9 was introduced to him and was given something to read or play with while his father conducted business with Stravinsky. When they said goodbye, Stravinski shook hands with him.
With the Walt Disney experience, there was a bit more interaction. Disney had a basement in his home and there was a large model train set in the basement. The train was big enough for a kid to sit on and my friend rode the train around down in Walt Disney's basement while his Dad conducted business with Walt. Again at the goodbye, Walt shook hands with my friend.
Here is a link to some of Otto's photos: https://www.google.com/search?q=ott...&ei=hkxCVembD8THogSo84G4BQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&dpr=1
Eventually, after many years, Otto's Restaurant was renamed and a new format was adopted so most of the photos were taken down. I believe a few photos remained behind. My friend didn't know what to do with all those photos and he eventually donated them to the UCLA library. They can all be viewed there at this time.
I saw the entire set back in the 70's, it is very impressive!!
Lakey
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Terril park
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Re: USC Classical Radio Station Rates the 100 Top Classical Pieces of All Time!
You'll probably like this then, Nijinsky's choreography reconstructed
and performed for the first time in 70 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1OQkHybEQ&list=PLTFLgYX9yZwMHVxUKXtk_Kdh1fHvcgyiQ
You'll probably like this then, Nijinsky's choreography reconstructed
and performed for the first time in 70 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1OQkHybEQ&list=PLTFLgYX9yZwMHVxUKXtk_Kdh1fHvcgyiQ
Hatshepsut
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Re: USC Classical Radio Station Rates the 100 Top Classical Pieces of All Time!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr8c5qMF8O1qkdy8to1_500.jpg
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/17788
Vaslav Nijinsky from the Ukraine, considered one of the greatest male ballet dancers of the 20th Century, and sadly there is not actual footage of him dancing, it is said his jumps and leaps were beyond compare. He and his troupe visit Charlie Chaplin on the set of “Easy Street” in 1917.
Vaslav is next to Charlie, Eric Campbell is in the back (the real big guy) Nijinsky complimented Charlie saying his moves across the screen were balletic.
Nijinsky retired from ballet within a few years of this photograph due to him suffering from schizophrenia.
It is well known that the Dance of the Wood Nymphs in “Sunnyside” 1919 was Charlie paying homage to Nijinsky and his famous ballet:
L’après-midi d’un faune (or The Afternoon of a Faun
http://chaplinfortheages.tumblr.com/page/163
http://41.media.tumblr.com/87c9d7f90a23cafbbbab9fb88d3baa50/tumblr_mq9k5xL1MM1qkdy8to1_1280.jpg
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr8c5qMF8O1qkdy8to1_500.jpg
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/17788
Vaslav Nijinsky from the Ukraine, considered one of the greatest male ballet dancers of the 20th Century, and sadly there is not actual footage of him dancing, it is said his jumps and leaps were beyond compare. He and his troupe visit Charlie Chaplin on the set of “Easy Street” in 1917.
Vaslav is next to Charlie, Eric Campbell is in the back (the real big guy) Nijinsky complimented Charlie saying his moves across the screen were balletic.
Nijinsky retired from ballet within a few years of this photograph due to him suffering from schizophrenia.
It is well known that the Dance of the Wood Nymphs in “Sunnyside” 1919 was Charlie paying homage to Nijinsky and his famous ballet:
L’après-midi d’un faune (or The Afternoon of a Faun
http://chaplinfortheages.tumblr.com/page/163
http://41.media.tumblr.com/87c9d7f90a23cafbbbab9fb88d3baa50/tumblr_mq9k5xL1MM1qkdy8to1_1280.jpg
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lkwdblds
Crusader
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Great display of Charlie Chaplain memorabilia and photos Hats. Really incredible photographs!! Ditto for your excellent information on Nijinsky! All of that info was brand new to me and I found it all extremely interesting and informative. Thank you so much for posting all of that!!
I wanted to return to Classical Music for a another post. For any of you who saw the Academy Award wining movie, Amadeus, about 30 years ago, the head composer, the Kapellmeister, in the Court of Emperor Joseph II in the 1780's was named Antonio Salieri. The movie makes him out to be a very mediocre composer who is very jealous of Mozart's superior talent and genius and grows to hate God for not giving him all that genius. To get even with God, Salieri is supposed t have killed Mozart.
The whole thing is fictional, it never happened. It made it possible to have an interesting script for the movie but there is no serious basis for that story. In actual fact, Salieri was a very skilled composer in his own right. The wonderful Italian Soprano, Cecilia Bartoli is a big Salieri fan and sings many of his opera arias.
To get an idea of what Salieri's opera composing sounded like, here is a very entertaining and funny clip of Cecilia Bartoli singing one of his arias. Fooling around with the musicians at around 5:12 into the video, Ms. Bartoli, loses her cadence and goes out of sync with the musicians. She breaks up laughing and then they start over and do that passage correctly. BTW, the piano and all the other instruments appear to be instruments from the late 18th century. I find Salieri's aria extremely entertaining and a talented piece of compositional work: Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-B7hKNGaQ
Lakey
Great display of Charlie Chaplain memorabilia and photos Hats. Really incredible photographs!! Ditto for your excellent information on Nijinsky! All of that info was brand new to me and I found it all extremely interesting and informative. Thank you so much for posting all of that!!
I wanted to return to Classical Music for a another post. For any of you who saw the Academy Award wining movie, Amadeus, about 30 years ago, the head composer, the Kapellmeister, in the Court of Emperor Joseph II in the 1780's was named Antonio Salieri. The movie makes him out to be a very mediocre composer who is very jealous of Mozart's superior talent and genius and grows to hate God for not giving him all that genius. To get even with God, Salieri is supposed t have killed Mozart.
The whole thing is fictional, it never happened. It made it possible to have an interesting script for the movie but there is no serious basis for that story. In actual fact, Salieri was a very skilled composer in his own right. The wonderful Italian Soprano, Cecilia Bartoli is a big Salieri fan and sings many of his opera arias.
To get an idea of what Salieri's opera composing sounded like, here is a very entertaining and funny clip of Cecilia Bartoli singing one of his arias. Fooling around with the musicians at around 5:12 into the video, Ms. Bartoli, loses her cadence and goes out of sync with the musicians. She breaks up laughing and then they start over and do that passage correctly. BTW, the piano and all the other instruments appear to be instruments from the late 18th century. I find Salieri's aria extremely entertaining and a talented piece of compositional work: Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-B7hKNGaQ
Lakey
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SweetnessandLight
Crusader
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Lakey, I understand where you are coming from on this...I myself tend to lean towards the naive and too trusting side of things. I'm usually hugely optimistic and cheerful too, which REALLY ticks some people off!
I've been thinking about your question...to me, it seems better always for two friends to try and work things out when they disagree.
But I have learned that things are not always what they seem...sometimes I have thought someone was my friend, or liked me, when then didn't really, or only very superficially, and I soon ran out my welcome with them. That usually comes as a bit of a shock to me, when we seemed to be getting along so well.
People don't always say what they mean...sometimes a feeling of needing distance or resentment or antagonism percolates in one party to a friendship or even an acquaintanceship over time, and then burbles out to the surface at an unexpected moment.
My friends mean a lot to me, too...and I try to be diplomatic with them, and not burn my bridges unless a relationship has become really hostile or toxic in some way. I'm pretty tolerant...some would say, too tolerant!
Some people are not good about seeing their own feelings clearly, or understanding how to talk over their frustrations and come to some agreement to disagree on attitudes, habits or views. You have an advantage in that you are highly intelligent, and willing to step back and examine almost every thought and feeling or attitude you hold at any given point in time. I really admire your ability to get some distance and see yourself more objectively...I have tried to do that more as I have gotten older.
I still have a knee-jerk reaction to feel anger and self-justification when someone I care about "disses" me, or dismisses me. What helps me is to try and practice empathy and think of what might be going on from their point of view, while containing and processing my own anger or hurt feelings (hopefully in a productive way, or at least a non-harmful way!
). But I also have gotten fairly good at "getting myself out of the way", in Aikido terminology, and just letting someone be themself and go their own way, without unduly trying to save the friendship or pleasant acquaintanceship (even when I think they are making a mistake).
It's fairly easy to upset and offend people, often without really meaning to! I think studying non-violent communication helped me along those lines, but I am still far from perfect at it.
And then...some people just like to argue! Seem to get a charge out of causing friction, and then "making up", or making the other person "wrong". A whole lot of people in this world seem to be addicted to feeling that "they are RIGHT!" You can't do this unless you make the other party "wrong", usually.
I don't know if any of this helps you, but I do understand the feeling you have described. Sometimes there is no good explanation, and you just have to let things go and move on.
It helps if you have the emotional intelligence skills to be your own best friend, no matter what happens to you in life!
I'm still working on it...
Lakey, I understand where you are coming from on this...I myself tend to lean towards the naive and too trusting side of things. I'm usually hugely optimistic and cheerful too, which REALLY ticks some people off!
I've been thinking about your question...to me, it seems better always for two friends to try and work things out when they disagree.
But I have learned that things are not always what they seem...sometimes I have thought someone was my friend, or liked me, when then didn't really, or only very superficially, and I soon ran out my welcome with them. That usually comes as a bit of a shock to me, when we seemed to be getting along so well.
People don't always say what they mean...sometimes a feeling of needing distance or resentment or antagonism percolates in one party to a friendship or even an acquaintanceship over time, and then burbles out to the surface at an unexpected moment.
My friends mean a lot to me, too...and I try to be diplomatic with them, and not burn my bridges unless a relationship has become really hostile or toxic in some way. I'm pretty tolerant...some would say, too tolerant!
Some people are not good about seeing their own feelings clearly, or understanding how to talk over their frustrations and come to some agreement to disagree on attitudes, habits or views. You have an advantage in that you are highly intelligent, and willing to step back and examine almost every thought and feeling or attitude you hold at any given point in time. I really admire your ability to get some distance and see yourself more objectively...I have tried to do that more as I have gotten older.
I still have a knee-jerk reaction to feel anger and self-justification when someone I care about "disses" me, or dismisses me. What helps me is to try and practice empathy and think of what might be going on from their point of view, while containing and processing my own anger or hurt feelings (hopefully in a productive way, or at least a non-harmful way!
). But I also have gotten fairly good at "getting myself out of the way", in Aikido terminology, and just letting someone be themself and go their own way, without unduly trying to save the friendship or pleasant acquaintanceship (even when I think they are making a mistake). It's fairly easy to upset and offend people, often without really meaning to! I think studying non-violent communication helped me along those lines, but I am still far from perfect at it.
And then...some people just like to argue! Seem to get a charge out of causing friction, and then "making up", or making the other person "wrong". A whole lot of people in this world seem to be addicted to feeling that "they are RIGHT!" You can't do this unless you make the other party "wrong", usually.
I don't know if any of this helps you, but I do understand the feeling you have described. Sometimes there is no good explanation, and you just have to let things go and move on.
It helps if you have the emotional intelligence skills to be your own best friend, no matter what happens to you in life!
I'm still working on it...
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lkwdblds
Crusader
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Nice ti hear from you Sweetness! I thought my question had run its course with very little response. You made up for the little response with one giant response. Thanks for all your comments, tips and compliments. I really appreciate them.
I am reminded of two kids from my grammar school and high school days. My grammar school, Marvin Ave. was situated in a working class neighborhood, it was maybe about 40 % Jewish but contrary to perceptions, the Jews there were not wealthy. My Dad was drawing plans for a commercial architect, Claude Bielman in the WIlshire district of L.A., I believe that he was earning about $100 a week then, maybe equivalent to $1,000 a week now. My Mom was a stay at home Mom. At Marvin Ave school, I was the 2nd most popular kid, my best friend, Larry A. was the most popular and he and I were both straight A students. The school had field trips every now and then and the kids used to pick who they wanted to sit next to. This kid, Robert Fenton, always picked me. He was not Jewish, he was just an average student and his talent was drawing cartoons. He also picked me to sit next to on the school bus on a field trip.
At the end of the 5th grade, he moved without announcing it to anybody, so in 6th grade, the last year of grammar school, he was not at Marvin Ave. The first day of Junior High School, Louis Pasteur Jr. High, all the kids were assigned to a Home Room. I went to my home room, to start my 7th grade experience and who should be their but Robert Fenton. I ran over and shook his hand as was thrilled to see him. At first, he was friendly to me and I found out that his parents had move to an upper middle class area near the junior high school and that he had done his 6th grade at Castlewood ELementary School, which was in a wealthy Jewish district.
We sat through the Home Room presentation and then a bell rang and we had about 10 minutes to get to our first class. At this point, Robert Fenton said something which had a huge negative impact on me. I started in to tell him how glad I was to see him and I told him that he should have let our class at Marvin Ave know where he was so we could call him. Robert looked at me and then he said, "When we were at Marvin Ave., you were a big shot and I was a nobody and now I am popular and am a big shot and you are a nobody." He then turned his back on me and walked away.
Not only were my feeling hurt but I didn't even understand what he was talking about. I knew that where he lived was a richer neighborhood than where I lived but to me, that had no importance when it came to be somebody's friend. To him, your neighborhood and your parent's wealth status were all consuming. What I did without even knowing it was even more strange. I blocked Robert Fenton out of my mind. I have no recollection of ever seeing him again. I asked some friends I still know, whether he graduated from Louis Pasteur or not. They said, yes, he went there for the entire 3 years. One guy even had his 9th grade yearbook and Fenton's picture was in it. I went there those same 3 years and have no recall of ever seeing him or talking to him My friends say they were in a lot of classes with him. I just totally blocked him from my mind. I made it such that for me, he no longer existed.
Lakey
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Lakey, I understand where you are coming from on this...I myself tend to lean towards the naive and too trusting side of things. I'm usually hugely optimistic and cheerful too, which REALLY ticks some people off!
I've been thinking about your question...to me, it seems better always for two friends to try and work things out when they disagree.
But I have learned that things are not always what they seem...sometimes I have thought someone was my friend, or liked me, when then didn't really, or only very superficially, and I soon ran out my welcome with them. That usually comes as a bit of a shock to me, when we seemed to be getting along so well.
People don't always say what they mean...sometimes a feeling of needing distance or resentment or antagonism percolates in one party to a friendship or even an acquaintanceship over time, and then burbles out to the surface at an unexpected moment.
My friends mean a lot to me, too...and I try to be diplomatic with them, and not burn my bridges unless a relationship has become really hostile or toxic in some way. I'm pretty tolerant...some would say, too tolerant!
Some people are not good about seeing their own feelings clearly, or understanding how to talk over their frustrations and come to some agreement to disagree on attitudes, habits or views. You have an advantage in that you are highly intelligent, and willing to step back and examine almost every thought and feeling or attitude you hold at any given point in time. I really admire your ability to get some distance and see yourself more objectively...I have tried to do that more as I have gotten older.
I still have a knee-jerk reaction to feel anger and self-justification when someone I care about "disses" me, or dismisses me. What helps me is to try and practice empathy and think of what might be going on from their point of view, while containing and processing my own anger or hurt feelings (hopefully in a productive way, or at least a non-harmful way!
It's fairly easy to upset and offend people, often without really meaning to! I think studying non-violent communication helped me along those lines, but I am still far from perfect at it.
And then...some people just like to argue! Seem to get a charge out of causing friction, and then "making up", or making the other person "wrong". A whole lot of people in this world seem to be addicted to feeling that "they are RIGHT!" You can't do this unless you make the other party "wrong", usually.
I don't know if any of this helps you, but I do understand the feeling you have described. Sometimes there is no good explanation, and you just have to let things go and move on.
It helps if you have the emotional intelligence skills to be your own best friend, no matter what happens to you in life!
Nice ti hear from you Sweetness! I thought my question had run its course with very little response. You made up for the little response with one giant response. Thanks for all your comments, tips and compliments. I really appreciate them.
I am reminded of two kids from my grammar school and high school days. My grammar school, Marvin Ave. was situated in a working class neighborhood, it was maybe about 40 % Jewish but contrary to perceptions, the Jews there were not wealthy. My Dad was drawing plans for a commercial architect, Claude Bielman in the WIlshire district of L.A., I believe that he was earning about $100 a week then, maybe equivalent to $1,000 a week now. My Mom was a stay at home Mom. At Marvin Ave school, I was the 2nd most popular kid, my best friend, Larry A. was the most popular and he and I were both straight A students. The school had field trips every now and then and the kids used to pick who they wanted to sit next to. This kid, Robert Fenton, always picked me. He was not Jewish, he was just an average student and his talent was drawing cartoons. He also picked me to sit next to on the school bus on a field trip.
At the end of the 5th grade, he moved without announcing it to anybody, so in 6th grade, the last year of grammar school, he was not at Marvin Ave. The first day of Junior High School, Louis Pasteur Jr. High, all the kids were assigned to a Home Room. I went to my home room, to start my 7th grade experience and who should be their but Robert Fenton. I ran over and shook his hand as was thrilled to see him. At first, he was friendly to me and I found out that his parents had move to an upper middle class area near the junior high school and that he had done his 6th grade at Castlewood ELementary School, which was in a wealthy Jewish district.
We sat through the Home Room presentation and then a bell rang and we had about 10 minutes to get to our first class. At this point, Robert Fenton said something which had a huge negative impact on me. I started in to tell him how glad I was to see him and I told him that he should have let our class at Marvin Ave know where he was so we could call him. Robert looked at me and then he said, "When we were at Marvin Ave., you were a big shot and I was a nobody and now I am popular and am a big shot and you are a nobody." He then turned his back on me and walked away.
Not only were my feeling hurt but I didn't even understand what he was talking about. I knew that where he lived was a richer neighborhood than where I lived but to me, that had no importance when it came to be somebody's friend. To him, your neighborhood and your parent's wealth status were all consuming. What I did without even knowing it was even more strange. I blocked Robert Fenton out of my mind. I have no recollection of ever seeing him again. I asked some friends I still know, whether he graduated from Louis Pasteur or not. They said, yes, he went there for the entire 3 years. One guy even had his 9th grade yearbook and Fenton's picture was in it. I went there those same 3 years and have no recall of ever seeing him or talking to him My friends say they were in a lot of classes with him. I just totally blocked him from my mind. I made it such that for me, he no longer existed.
Lakey
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Maria Cuervo
Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Today I was listening to Rodriguez explain objective "processing" here.
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/28/se...-cheating-on-the-survival-rundown/#more-22155
So strange. What was he talking about ? What is process 21 ? I guess being an old timer I c/sed a different bridge!!!
I can see why he is the tech speaker. He is personable but not too brainy and not too much wow. Intellectually I run rings around him (and most of us here on this thread would too!) It's as if he knows x like a memorized patter but no one is actually home. Since he seems nice enough, people in the same trance he is in give him money.
Today I was listening to Rodriguez explain objective "processing" here.
http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/28/se...-cheating-on-the-survival-rundown/#more-22155
So strange. What was he talking about ? What is process 21 ? I guess being an old timer I c/sed a different bridge!!!
I can see why he is the tech speaker. He is personable but not too brainy and not too much wow. Intellectually I run rings around him (and most of us here on this thread would too!) It's as if he knows x like a memorized patter but no one is actually home. Since he seems nice enough, people in the same trance he is in give him money.
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lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
He says: ''hellooooooooooooooooooooo ?????'''
Like in pot call kettle
the clown shall do that in his mirror
Appears to me as a mimicry of LRH lecturing!
the vid show an opening window with a quote about ''comm lag''...It just made me wognite about the issue of comm lag in $cientology...
Com lag shall not take place in any process, studying, learning, responding, decision taking or whatever..because a com lag is a natural process of the mind to get an information , analyse it and process it to adapt desicion or behavior process...it's about critical thinking ..exactly what $cientology is suppressing, using mind manipulation, in order to get people implanted without taking time to reflect on data and processes presented so they agree or disagree, it has a value or not, or is a non-sense or not.
Well done LRH!
Thank you for the link!
He says: ''hellooooooooooooooooooooo ?????'''
Like in pot call kettle
the clown shall do that in his mirror
Appears to me as a mimicry of LRH lecturing!
the vid show an opening window with a quote about ''comm lag''...It just made me wognite about the issue of comm lag in $cientology...
Com lag shall not take place in any process, studying, learning, responding, decision taking or whatever..because a com lag is a natural process of the mind to get an information , analyse it and process it to adapt desicion or behavior process...it's about critical thinking ..exactly what $cientology is suppressing, using mind manipulation, in order to get people implanted without taking time to reflect on data and processes presented so they agree or disagree, it has a value or not, or is a non-sense or not.
Well done LRH!
Thank you for the link!
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Maria Cuervo
Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Interrupting a comm lag via 8c and charging for it. Lol. Thank you for that brilliant wognition!!!
He says: ''hellooooooooooooooooooooo ?????'''
Like in pot call kettle
the clown shall do that in his mirror
Appears to me as a mimicry of LRH lecturing!
Thanks for that link!
the vid show an opening window with a quote about ''comm lag''...It just made me wognite about the issue of comm lag in $cientology...
Com lag shall not take place in any process, studying, learning, responding, decision taking or whatever..because a com lag is a natural process of the mind to get an information , analyse it and process it to adapt desicion or behavior process...it's about critical thinking ..exactly what $cientology is suppressing, using mind manipulation, in order to get people implanted without taking time to reflect on data and processes presented so they agree or disagree, it has a value or not, or is a non-sense or not.
Well done LRH!
Thank you for the link!
Interrupting a comm lag via 8c and charging for it. Lol. Thank you for that brilliant wognition!!!
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Exactly!
remember the famous ''considerations'' ?
''handle the pc's considerations'''
doesn't match with ''think for yourself - or be self-determined'' , neither if it's not true for you, it's not true
:confused2:
Exactly!
remember the famous ''considerations'' ?
''handle the pc's considerations'''
doesn't match with ''think for yourself - or be self-determined'' , neither if it's not true for you, it's not true
:confused2:
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Maria Cuervo
Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Aw, but then when it's not true for you comes the SP declare!!Exactly!
remember the famous ''considerations''
''handle the pc's considerations'''
doesn't match with ''think for yourself - or be self-determined'' , neither if it'snot true for you, it's not true
:confused2:
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