John,
Got your reply on the "incongruity." It should settle the wonderings that might have occurred based on these missing bits and pieces from your first post.
The response to your first post on this and other threads reminded me of an important piece of tech written by Alan that I will post here now.
It speaks for itself, though I must say, in the inimitable Alan Walter way
Be prepared for some complex sentences
But it does speak elegantly to the issue of the two broad responses we see on ESMB to posts and in particular to posts conveying "certain" ideas.
This taken from Alan's Kn website.
Rog
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PROCESS BASICS
Series 2
By Alan C. Walter
The Evolution of a Power Technology
Good Technology versus Evil Technology
Good Practitioners versus Evil Practitioners
Good Processes versus Evil Processes
ALL BEINGS are SUPER BEINGS all the time. It is just that some Beings concentrate on positive empowerment and mastery of self and the positive empowerment and mastery for others to play huge winning constructive games; and some Beings concentrate on the negative and the use of their deterrent powers to restrain themselves and the use of deterrent powers to restrain others in order to play small, losing, destructive games.
The Beings that concentrate on positive empowerment and mastery of self and the positive empowerment and mastery for others to play huge winning, constructive games, are directing their attention, power, force and action to enhance their and other's goodness from now into the future.
One of the basic laws of ethical behavior is that one's goals, visions, plans and actions result in doing the greatest good for the greatest number. When a Being is involved with doing the greatest good for self and others, the Being likes self and others.
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Definition:
GOOD, adjective, Pronunciation: 'gud
good, Sanskrit, gadhya what one clings to
[Middle English, from Old English g o d ; akin to Old High Germanguot]
Date: before 12th century
1a. of a favorable character or tendency, bountiful, fertile, handsome, attractive
b. suitable, fit, c. agreeable, pleasant, salutary, wholesome
d. of a noticeably large size or quantity, considerable
e. well-founded, cogent, deserving of respect honorable
f. adequate, satisfactory, conforming to a standard, containing less fat and being less tender than higher grades -- used of meat and especially of beef
2a. virtuous, right, commendable, b. upper-class, c. competent, skillful, d. loyal, close, e. free from infirmity or sorrow
- good•ish /'gu-dish/ adjective
- as good as: in effect: virtually -- as good as gold, 1. of the highest worth or reliability
2. well behaved -- good and /gud-en/ very, entirely
A good technology enhances the now and future goodness of, and aligns, the Being's goals, visions, plans, actions, products and outcomes. outcomes to doing the greatest good for self and others throughout the events of life.
A good technology never loses the focus of enhancing the now and futures of its clients.
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EVIL
The Beings who concentrate on the negative and the use of their deterrent powers to restrain themselves and the use of deterrent powers to restrain others in order to play small, losing, destructive games, are focused on preventing past bad, wrong, painful, destructive or evil things or events from re-occurring.
Definition:
EVIL: adjective, Pronunciation: 'E-vel, British often & US also 'E-vil
[Middle English, from Old English yfel; akin to Old High German ubil evil]
Date: before 12th century
1a. morally reprehensible, sinful, wicked; b. arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct; 2a. archaic, inferior; b. causing discomfort or repulsion, offensive; c. disagreeable; 3a. causing harm, pernicious; b. marked by misfortune, unlucky
Concentrating on others' wrongness, badness and evil is in itself a form of domination and subjugation of others, for it is an attempt to exert superiority of self over others. It is also a way to make less of or nothing of and thus subjugate others.
In the Spiritual realm of a Being, Domination and Subjugation are the ultimate evil acts.
The concentrating on others' wrongness, badness and evil enables a practitioner to perform domination and subjugation of his or her clients. It further pushes the client out of present time and sticks him or her into the past, which in turn weakens the client's ability to hold a position and resist domination, subjugation and other determined control.
The prime location that a Being can be a Super Being is right here right now. -- Even though a Super Being's here and now extends well into the future and past.
It takes an equal amount of power, strength, intelligence, cleverness, skill and ability to restrain self as it does to empower self, or to create a degrading disguise or an enhancing disguise.
In order to restrain and deter the powers of self, and still be a small, inconsequential, insignificant player in a small, inconsequential, insignificant game, the Being must choose destructive, mediocre, small, inconsequential, insignificant games. The Being must also choose destructive, mediocre, small, inconsequential, insignificant people who have the same restraints and handicaps and who are applying these restraints and handicaps using an equal amount of restraints to deter power, to deter strength, to deter intelligence, to deter cleverness, to deter skill, to deter ability.
This deterrent power is used to create the upsets and problems that result from the inhibiting of the Being's power and effectiveness to create mutually agreed-upon conditions of no knowledge, no presence, no responsibility, no intention, no visions, no control, no space, no time, no money, no energy, no interest.
That they are knowingly or unknowingly using these deterrents of their powers to hold themselves in a small, inconsequential, insignificant place to keep themselves impoverished, illiterate, ineffective, unable, unsuccessful, unhappy and in chronic low mood levels in order to maintain the constant justifications and excuses for being weak and powerless.
The above paragraphs bring to view the incredible error of today's technology and the incredible major errors ALL practitioners are making with human potential processes and training.
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Major Errors!
A major error of many of today's technologies and a major error most practitioners have made and are making with human potential processes and training are:
The Technology is being applied backwards!
Processing is being applied from the incorrect direction!
Practitioners are being trained wrongly!
Case Advisors are advising wrongly!
The statements:
"The prime location that a Being can be a Super Being, and that is right here right now. Even though a Super Being's here and now extends well into the future and past", are a vital piece of technology.
Almost ALL processes have been designed to handle the NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF A CASE.
Almost ALL training procedures have been designed to handle the NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF A CASE.
Almost ALL Case Advices have been directed to handle the NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF A CASE.
These actions EMPOWERS NEGATIVITY and makes the case BIGGER THAN THE BEING!
Going earlier and choosing only selected pieces of case, i.e. Upsets, Problems, Harmful Acts, Incidents, etc., without returning to the WHOLENESS OF THE PRESENT TIME THREE DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGERY AND WITHOUT INSPECTING THE FUTURE CONSEQUENCES OF THE WHOLENESS OF THE THREE DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGERY DRIVES THE BEING OUT OF PRESENT TIME, CUTTING THE BEING'S REACH INTO THE FUTURE and TRAPS THEM IN THE PAST!
This action alone causes the PRESENT TIME and the FUTURE to become more charged, more resistive, more painful than the PAST. It does this by failing to get the Being to inspect and maintain the INTEGRITY and HONOR of their PRESENT TIME THREE DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGERY and the EFFECTS and CONSEQUENCES the THREE DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGERY will have on their PRESENT TIME and FUTURE LINES and TERMINALS.
The SET UP/UPSET research has uncovered an incredible amount of hidden case booby-traps and unhandled vital areas and subjects.
By NOT FOCUSING on the MAINTAINING of the INTEGRITY and HONOR of the PRESENT TIME and the FUTURE THREE DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGERY of the CLIENT, THE PRACTITIONER IS VIOLATING THE INTEGRITY and HONOR of the SESSION, THE INTEGRITY and HONOR of the CLIENT, THE INTEGRITY and HONOR of the PRACTITIONER and THE INTEGRITY and HONOR of the TECHNOLOGY.
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THE USE OF "EARLIER SIMILAR" CREATES A BOOBY-TRAP
How many times has a client entered a session with this type of problem?
Practitioner: "How are you doing?"
Client: "OK, but I have this problem. I need $150,000 to expand my business and handle my immediate debts."
Practitioner: "Thank you!"
Practitioner: "Is there an earlier similar problem?"
Client: "Well yes, when I wanted to go to college, I need several thousand dollars.
Practitioner: "Thank you!"
Practitioner: "Is there an earlier similar problem?"
Client: "Er, yes I needed $1,200 to buy a car."
Practitioner: "Thank you!"
Practitioner: "Is there an earlier similar problem?"
Client: "Mmm, yes, I needed 10 cents to buy an ice cream so I stole it from my mothers purse. God! I felt guilty about that!"
Practitioner: "Thank you!"
Practitioner: "Your needle is floating."
What the hell happened to helping the client handle getting the $150,000 to expand his business?
The existing problem was ignored. The client was pushed into the past.
How could it have been handled?
The practitioner now uses a creative process and says: "How could you handle needing to get $150,000?"
Client: "I could rob a bank."
Client: "I could sell some shares."
Client: (Suddenly brightening up.) "Hell, all I've got to do is concentrate on selling my main products and I will earn that in two months."
Dial wide floating needle and floating Resistance Value.
This result will set the client free of the practitioner. The client will be beyond the practitioner's control. This is not bad if the practitioner doesn't have a scarcity of clients.
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The problem with ignoring present time and the future in processing is that present time and the future will become unconfrontable. There will be so much pain, charge and force between the Being, present time and the future, the Being will end up being detached from their present time and the future life.
The Life Animation objective processes are great present time processes.
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HANDLING THE PROCESSES OF PRESENT TIME
The processes of present time follow the process basics:
What you must make sure of is that the client follows and has these realizations on their present time existence and what they want handled.
Phase 1. The introduction phase.
Phase 2. The definition phase.
Phase 3. The beginning of running the process phase.
Phase 4. The sorting out phase.
Phase 5. The significance to self phase.
Phase 6. The significance to self mocked-up others phase.
Phase 7. The collision into force, charge and mass contained in the client's mock-ups of self, others and environment phase.
Phase 8. The three dimensional holographic phase.
Phase 9. The actual contact by telepathic projection with present time self, others and environment phase.
Phase 10. The handling and permeating of the force, charge and masses contacted that are contained or attached to the present time self, others and environment phase.
Phase 11. The expanded present time phase.
Phase 12. The webbing phase. This is the creating of three dimensional holographic future images and telepathic projection of those images to cause fusion with images of others that want to create similar optimum scenarios.
Phase 13. The continuation of the process as a three dimensional holographic action in a real three dimensional holographic expanded present time phase.
Phase 14. The upscaling of lines, terminals and games of life phase.
Phase 15. The continuous attainments of optimum wants phase.
Phase 16. The living of your life with a continuous floating resistance value and full Green Zone Truth Phenomena phase.
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The area you and your client will have the greatest difficulty with are these phases:
Phase 6. The significance to self mocked-up others phase.
This phase contains incredibly false perceptions about others and the job in hand. This area is full of opinions, precepts, unreality, labels and generally substituted confront mechanisms. The client is attempting to withhold itself from phase 7 phenomena.
Phase 7. The collision into force, charge and mass contained in the client's mock-ups of self, others and environment phase.
This area also contains false perceptions, false ideas about others, subjects and intentions and false environments. Often this material is put there to make self right and others wrong, or as an excuse to not go into action.
Phase 8. The three dimensional holographic phase.
Because of the charge force and mass, the Being's space will be collapsed and they cannot envision in a three dimensional holographic manner.
Phase 9. The actual contact by telepathic projection with present time self, others and environment phase.
To be able to do this there cannot be any charge, force or mass on others.
Phase 10. The handling and permeating of the force, charge and masses contacted that are contained or attached to the present time self, others and environment phase.
This requires the willingness to know, be known and act in present time.
Phase 11. The expanded present time phase.
The Being is fully present in present time and can extend themselves and their three dimensional holographic creations into the future.
It takes a practitioner who has mastered the basics and applications of those basics of their craft to get a client through these process phases. It requires superb presence, a powerful, certain communication cycle, attention to detail, strong ability to direct attention, and of course the practitioner needs to be in present time.
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A common series of realizations occur when the client arrives in present time:
They find their car is old.
Their clothes are out of style.
Their communication lines are out of the main stream.
Their living quarters need lots of repair or upgrading.
They are wrongly positioned and thus are not set up to succeed at what they want to accomplish.
It is vital therefore to have present time fully discharged and set up to succeed.
ALAN C. WALTER
29 August 1998
Revised 6 November 1998
Copyright © 1998
Alan C. Walter
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
Periodically as the years went on, I was either called in by org officials to "Clean up a Mess' or Ron asked me to clean up something especially when there was a danger of legal actions against the Church by some disgruntled PC. 
I was never really on post at any org. I did supervise the Solo and Briefing course for a time at the American Saint Hill organization, but I refused to join staff, and a refused to join the Sea Org. My intellect could not even begin to wrap it’s wits around the idea of a billion year contact, and I have never wanted to commit myself to any organization, although I have always been willing to help when I can.
I would write my own CS, which was, “Fly a Rud and handle”, which I did. Then I would write up a session report that would be acceptable to org people. In many cases it was a total lie, for what I really did to clean up the mess would have been completely unacceptable to tech people. I would have been considered to be a complete squirrel. What I did in my estimation was totally standard tech by the Class-VIII definition of standard. “A definite level and degree of quality that is proper and adequate for a specific purpose,” What I did adequately cleaned up the mess, but I would have been declared and Out-Tech SP if I told the truth to org personnel. 
After I finished my work, I was again relegated to be one of those “Un-dedicated, difficult to control, irresponsible” field auditors, who was useful at times. Due to that, and my refusal to join staff and the Sea Org, many org people would continue their attacks of me, until they needed me again.
Ron also pulled a number of sneaky tricks on me, all of which I will delineate in detail as my Chronicles get written and submitted. At times, I felt he completely betrayed me, and he was, at times, the biggest son-of-a-bitch I have ever encountered. However, at times, he was also one of the most wonderful beings I have ever encountered. This dichotomy has often spun me around spiritually, mentally and physically.
