What's new

The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

Status
Not open for further replies.

lkwdblds

Crusader
Yes, she is a great Being! Of course, I've noticed.

Lakey wrote:

OK, which part? :D

You trying to get me to bail you out of your faux pas with Candy? :D

Not me Mate :no:

I just went onto Candy's FB page and looked at her pictures, and what I saw is a gorgeous Being . . . there is real life there! Enormous presence and love of and for the game and the relationships and parts in it.

Yes, and a good looking body too . . . . . but did you not notice the Being? The emanation about her that imbues everything about her with prosperity?

And the pics were a good trip down memory lane . . . even though I've not met Candy in the flesh . . . there were familiar scenes/people there.

On Orson Wells . . . I'd say the man was a bit of a "maniac," irresponsible, and probably a little hard to get along with so, after an early success or two (I loved his "Othello") no one would work with him or back him.

It is likely that he was so full of himself that he offended those he needed to work with, as in getting financial backing for his proposed creations, to succeed.

R

Thanks for the critiques Roger. I was really looking for something on getting wiser as one gets older but the two things which you pointed our, one about Candy's beingness and the other About Orson Welles offending his colleagues both hit home!

The thing with Candy simply illustrates a problem I have wrestled with my entire life, having to do with women. If the body attraction isn't there, I just cannot look at the woman, no matter how great her beingness is, as a potential 2D. I consider this a major character flaw - reminding me of that movie a few years ago, "Shallow Hal"

I met Candy last December through Blue Spirit. She was auditing him and I told him that I needed to find someone to fill in the first part of the CCLA story as to who was there and how things were on their opening day. He put Candy in touch with me and she emailed me on Dec. 21, 2009. On the 22nd, she gave me the inside dope on the CCLA Org Origins, when they opened and who was there and what a typical day was like. We started emailing daily and lo and behold, on the 31st, New Year's Eve, she emailed me asking me my birthdate and told me to call her. I was a bit nervous but immediately called her and she invited me to a New Year's eve party she was going to. We even talked about the possibility of having a 2D over the phone. I picked her up at her house and we drove to the Party. Johnny Rafenello was there amongst the small gathering of about 14 people and that was my first meeting with him as well.

After about one hour at the party, it became apparent that Candy and I were not suitable for being a 2D. I did, however, reach strongly for her as a friend. She did respond to my reach as a friend and we started doing a lot of things together as friends and this lasted up until June and then died out, mainly due to her being very busy and moving around a lot. I got back with her at her request around July and escorted her to a play where Karen Black was performing. She wanted to get back in with Karen for business reasons and wanted a male escort to take her to see Karen and I was the man. About 6 weeks passed and we had no contact and then I had occasion to initiate something that involved her. I am not at liberty to disclose what I did but it worked out very well for her and when you take that plus helping her reconnect with Karen Black, I guess I became a permanent and respected friend.

On our long phone call of nearly an hour, the night when I heard the channeling, I mentioned that around June or July I thought our friendship was dead and she assured me, "Oh, no Gary, you are a good friend, one of my closer friends!" Hearing that from Candy, a surge of elation and joy tore through my psyche. It was not her body which caused that reaction but was her incredible beingness! I know she is a special being with great beingness and achieving friendship with her means so much to me.

On Orson Wells, Roger, I know what you say is true. For his blockbuster movie, Citizen Kane, Wells was fought and blocked by the Hollywood establishment and had to make the movie as an independent producers, using much of his own funding.

ON MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE FINEST PEOPLE: It was Yvonne Jentzsch who told us CC staff members on several occasions to aim high and seek to be friends mainly with people higher than you on the tone scale. To me this would include not just social tone but awareness, intelligence, charisma and other such qualities.

It was Carmelo, who mentioned on this thread to me, back around October when we first started our dialogues, "Why waste your time playing in the minor leagues? Why not play in the major leagues? My beloved Mom, Alice, was just the opposite to Yvonne and Carmelo. Her mantra was, "Speak softly and carry a small stick." She preached, don't aim high or take chances but just grind out a comfortable middle class income, do all the things which you are supposed to do, have a family and enjoy modest success playing a small game, i.e. getting a good job and saving a lot of your money.

She and I were both shy, timid and cautious. That's the way I was raised and is how I lived my younger years. My Dad was much more outgoing but even he, didn't like to gamble and take major chances. They grew up during the Great Depression and had this cautious trait about them.

I knew I had something different about me, a really outstanding memory and a different set of life values than most other people. Whenever I did make a speech or write something major, I was always able to cause a fairly good ripple and get a reaction out of people. This was the guy who timidly registered on ESMB about February 11, 2009.

My friends at CCLA were all rank and file lower level or mid level staff and public. To get out of that strata, my only means was my interest in classical music. I approached Susan Todhunter, a sort of elite level young woman, and because we both loved Mozart and opera, I was able to create a lasting friendship with her. I made friends with my auditor Sue who after auditing me for 300 hours, got to know that I had something worthwhile in my noodle. Heber Jentzch got to know me when he was Guardian for finance and worked with me when I was holding down Treasury Secretary.

Those 3 friends, Susan the singer, Sue the auditor and Heber were my only 3 major league contacts at CCLA and of the three, Susan the singer is the only one I ever saw socially. All my other friends were behind the scenes guys, working in mimeo or addresso or in HCO or Div II, holding down admin posts. Actually, most of these people were completely phenomenal beings in their own rights but they were not major league names.

HERE ON ESMB, MY WHOLE LIFE HAS EXPANDED - I COMMUNICATE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS A LOT! In the last week Candy, Johnny and Joan have all originated calls to me. I have had lengthy discourses with Ken Urquhart on Facebook and have had several phone conversations with Carmelo and minor discourse with Diana, Class VIII.

I now also have Edey and a whole new non Scientology oriented circle of friends through all of her connections at Ginger's Gardens and the Unity Universalist Church. I still have significant discourse with my ex wife and have met her new boyfriend twice in my house and had conversations with him. Then I have communication with my two kids and my business picked up a little and I have two new jobs and am working again with my homeowners and my old sub contractor friends.

THERE IS A LOT OF RANDOMITY THERE, A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE!

It seems to me that to have continuous excitement in your life, you have to have a lot of irons in the fire and you have to continuously create all the various aspects of your life. I am just sitting here in awe at how my life has changed. Nearly 71 now, when most men are playing golf or going up to Vegas on a bus full of old people on a junket or playing BINGO or playing bridge in a Senior Citizens' club house, I seem to be just starting out several new careers in the Major Leagues of life, having finally graduated from the Minor Leagues this year after a 69 year career of playing there.
Lakey
 
Last edited:
Never entertain nattering nabobs of negativity!

Fantastic! I hope I get to hear how it went. We didn't get anywhere interview skills. A few, simple basics on communication are important.

And, "No," to you naysayers, I am not referring to scientology-styled communication.

What? :ohmy: We have naysayers??? :omg:

Lemmeattem! :grouch: Show me a naysayer...go ahead...I will give them such a thump!!! :nervous:

On this thread we are all about helping one another. :happydance: Learning with each another :questions: and having fun! :yes:

I love communication! :happydance: :biglove:

Go team!!! :D :cheerleader:

:grouphug:
 
Last edited:
Thanks for the critiques Roger. I was really looking for something on getting wiser as one gets older but the two things which you pointed our, one about Candy's beingness and the other About Orson Welles offending his colleagues both hit home!

The thing with Candy simply illustrates a problem I have wrestled with my entire life, having to do with women. If the body attraction isn't there, I just cannot look at the woman, no matter how great her beingness is, as a potential 2D. I consider this a major character flaw - reminding me of that movie a few years ago, "Shallow Hal"

I met Candy last December through Blue Spirit. She was auditing him and I told him that I needed to find someone to fill in the first part of the CCLA story as to who was there and how things were on their opening day. He put Candy in touch with me and she emailed me on Dec. 21, 2009. On the 22nd, she gave me the inside dope on the CCLA Org Origins, when they opened and who was there and what a typical day was like. We started emailing daily and lo and behold, on the 31st, New Year's Eve, she emailed me asking me my birthdate and told me to call her. I was a bit nervous but immediately called her and she invited me to a New Year's eve party she was going to. We even talked about the possibility of having a 2D over the phone. I picked her up at her house and we drove to the Party. Johnny Rafenello was there amongst the small gathering of about 14 people and that was my first meeting with him as well.

After about one hour at the party, it became apparent that Candy and I were not suitable for being a 2D. I did, however, reach strongly for her as a friend. She did respond to my reach as a friend and we started doing a lot of things together as friends and this lasted up until June and then died out, mainly due to her being very busy and moving around a lot. I got back with her at her request around July and escorted her to a play where Karen Black was performing. She wanted to get back in with Karen for business reasons and wanted a male escort to take her to see Karen and I was the man. About 6 weeks passed and we had no contact and then I had occasion to initiate something that involved her. I am not at liberty to disclose what I did but it worked out very well for her and when you take that plus helping her reconnect with Karen Black, I guess I became a permanent and respected friend.

On our long phone call of nearly an hour, the night when I heard the channeling, I mentioned that around June or July I thought our friendship was dead and she assured me, "Oh, no Gary, you are a good friend, one of my closer friends!" Hearing that from Candy, a surge of elation and joy tore through my psyche. It was not her body which caused that reaction but was her incredible beingness! I know she is a special being with great beingness and achieving friendship with her means so much to me.

On Orson Wells, Roger, I know what you say is true. For his blockbuster movie, Citizen Kane, Wells was fought and blocked by the Hollywood establishment and had to make the movie as an independent producers, using much of his own funding.

ON MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE FINEST PEOPLE: It was Yvonne Jentzsch who told us CC staff members on several occasions to aim high and seek to be friends mainly with people higher than you on the tone scale. To me this would include not just social tone but awareness, intelligence, charisma and other such qualities.

It was Carmelo, who mentioned on this thread to me, back around October when we first started our dialogues, "Why waste your time playing in the minor leagues? Why not play in the major leagues? My beloved Mom, Alice, was just the opposite to Yvonne and Carmelo. Her mantra was, "Speak softly and carry a small stick." She preached, don't aim high or take chances but just grind out a comfortable middle class income, do all the things which you are supposed to do, have a family and enjoy modest success playing a small game, i.e. getting a good job and saving a lot of your money.

She and I were both shy, timid and cautious. That's the way I was raised and is how I lived my younger years. My Dad was much more outgoing but even he, didn't like to gamble and take major chances. They grew up during the Great Depression and had this cautious trait about them.

I knew I had something different about me, a really outstanding memory and a different set of life values than most other people. Whenever I did make a speech or write something major, I was always able to cause a fairly good ripple and get a reaction out of people. This was the guy who timidly registered on ESMB about February 11, 2009.

My friends at CCLA were all rank and file lower level or mid level staff and public. To get out of that strata, my only means was my interest in classical music. I approached Susan Todhunter, a sort of elite level young woman, and because we both loved Mozart and opera, I was able to create a lasting friendship with her. I made friends with my auditor Sue who after auditing me for 300 hours, got to know that I had something worthwhile in my noodle. Heber Jentzch got to know me when he was Guardian for finanace and worked with me when I was holding down Treasury Secretary.

Those 3 friends, Susan the singer, Sue the auditor and Heber were my only 3 major league contacts at CCLA and of the three, Susan the singer is the only one I ever saw socially. All my other friends were behind the scenes guys, working in mimeo or addresso or in HCO or Div II, holding down admin posts. Actually, most of these people were completely phenomenal beings in their own rights but they were not major league names.

HERE ON ESMB, MY WHOLE LIFE HAS EXPANDED - I COMMUNICATE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS A LOT! In the last week Candy, Johnny and Joan have all originated calls to me. I have had lengthy discourses with Ken Urquhart and Bent Corydon on ESMB and have had several phone conversations with Carmelo and minor discourse with Diana, Class VIII.

I now also have Edey and a whole new non Scientology oriented circle of friends through all of her connections at Ginger's Gardens and the Unity Universalist Church. I still have significant discourse with my ex wife and have met her new boyfriend twice in my house and had conversations with him. Then I have communication with my two kids and my business picked up a little and I have have two new jobs and am working again with my homeowners and my old sub contractor friends.

THERE IS A LOT OF RANDOMITY THERE, A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE!

It seems to me that to have continuous excitement in your life, you have to have a lot of irons in the fire and you have to continuously create all the various aspects of your life. I am just sitting here in awe at how my life has changed. Nearly 71 now, when most men are playing golf or going up to Vegas on a bus full of old people on a junket or playing BINGO or playing bridge in a Senior Citizens' club house, I seem to be just starting out several new careers in the Major Leagues of life, having finally graduated from the Minor Leagues this year after a 69 year career of playing there.
Lakey

what a terrific (and effortless) next step
 
Go team Lakey!!!

Yes, I'm really happy for Lakey and proud of all the progress he is making in life!!! He is making a great transition from the old into the new. He is in good communication with his spiritual teammates, releasing old viewpoints and creating new ones. Things are really looking up, there is positive movement forward in his life, and I think he is going to really enjoy playing at this new different level of his life experience ("in the major leagues")! :) It's been wonderful to witness the arc of this progress he's making. :happydance:

It was nice to hear of that manifestation of synchronicity, Lakey...in connecting and socializing with all these good people who effortlessly help you to push back your boundaries a bit! I know that you are doing the same for them, as well! :)

I have often found that I am most successful when I do have many different projects going at once, many irons in the fire, as Lakey has said. :thumbsup:

I created my own Masters Degree program out of "Multiple Subjects" (that's how it's listed on my diploma :p :eyeroll:) because I couldn't narrow myself down into just one or two fields of study, as is the routine pathway in Academia.

It's a judgement call and a balancing act for me not to bite off more than I can chew, and get into overwhelm, while still creating do, be and have :happydance: along all the dynamics, but it sure is fun! :D At times I get tired and need to focus on resting and playing more, and I really appreciate the spirit of playfulness that is alive and well on this thread we co-create daily. It really does help me de-stress, so thanks everybody! :thumbsup:

Fun stuff, life! :D Come on everybody, create some more good stuff in life with each other!!! :happydance:
 
Heh!

Pssst! Hey Buddy...you already is! :p

Our thoughts and intentions that lead our actions are powerful! :happydance: Collectively, we is already dangerous! :thumbsup: :D

Growth and healing are happening minute by minute, and I feel that our teamates are tickled pink about it! (They seem to really enjoy hard work!!!) :D

Life is good, and I'm so grateful to be experiencing it! :happydance:

Wake up, everybody!!! :D
 

RogerB

Crusader
Thanks for the critiques Roger. I was really looking for something on getting wiser as one gets older but the two things which you pointed our, one about Candy's beingness and the other About Orson Welles offending his colleagues both hit home!

The thing with Candy simply illustrates a problem I have wrestled with my entire life, having to do with women. If the body attraction isn't there, I just cannot look at the woman, no matter how great her beingness is, as a potential 2D. I consider this a major character flaw - reminding me of that movie a few years ago, "Shallow Hal"

Well Lakey, that's what comes from looking at the world of opportunity through your one blind eye . . . this instead of using the two good seeing eyes you've got along with a bit of theta perception :D

The dick is pretty dumb . . . your brains are elsewhere! :duh:

lkwdblds said:
I met Candy last December through Blue Spirit. She was auditing him and I told him that I needed to find someone to fill in the first part of the CCLA story as to who was there and how things were on their opening day. He put Candy in touch with me and she emailed me on Dec. 21, 2009. On the 22nd, she gave me the inside dope on the CCLA Org Origins, when they opened and who was there and what a typical day was like. We started emailing daily and lo and behold, on the 31st, New Year's Eve, she emailed me asking me my birthdate and told me to call her. I was a bit nervous but immediately called her and she invited me to a New Year's eve party she was going to. We even talked about the possibility of having a 2D over the phone. I picked her up at her house and we drove to the Party. Johnny Rafenello was there amongst the small gathering of about 14 people and that was my first meeting with him as well.

After about one hour at the party, it became apparent that Candy and I were not suitable for being a 2D. I did, however, reach strongly for her as a friend. She did respond to my reach as a friend and we started doing a lot of things together as friends and this lasted up until June and then died out, mainly due to her being very busy and moving around a lot. I got back with her at her request around July and escorted her to a play where Karen Black was performing. She wanted to get back in with Karen for business reasons and wanted a male escort to take her to see Karen and I was the man. About 6 weeks passed and we had no contact and then I had occasion to initiate something that involved her. I am not at liberty to disclose what I did but it worked out very well for her and when you take that plus helping her reconnect with Karen Black, I guess I became a permanent and respected friend.

On our long phone call of nearly an hour, the night when I heard the channeling, I mentioned that around June or July I thought our friendship was dead and she assured me, "Oh, no Gary, you are a good friend, one of my closer friends!" Hearing that from Candy, a surge of elation and joy tore through my psyche. It was not her body which caused that reaction but was her incredible beingness! I know she is a special being with great beingness and achieving friendship with her means so much to me.

Hey, have you actually inquired as to what it is these wonderful people deep down really want to do and/or accomplish with their lives that you can then contribute to??

Remember that question I asked of Virginia when we were "feeling each other out"? Getting that answered determines the game that can be played, the relationship that can be had, and also how worthwhile it all will be.

Not knowing what it is your closest companions are wanting to "be, do, have" means you're flying blind.

lkwdblds said:
On Orson Wells, Roger, I know what you say is true. For his blockbuster movie, Citizen Kane, Wells was fought and blocked by the Hollywood establishment and had to make the movie as an independent producers, using much of his own funding.

ON MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE FINEST PEOPLE: It was Yvonne Jentzsch who told us CC staff members on several occasions to aim high and seek to be friends mainly with people higher than you on the tone scale. To me this would include not just social tone but awareness, intelligence, charisma and other such qualities.

It was Carmelo, who mentioned on this thread to me, back around October when we first started our dialogues, "Why waste your time playing in the minor leagues? Why not play in the major leagues? My beloved Mom, Alice, was just the opposite to Yvonne and Carmelo. Her mantra was, "Speak softly and carry a small stick." She preached, don't aim high or take chances but just grind out a comfortable middle class income, do all the things which you are supposed to do, have a family and enjoy modest success playing a small game, i.e. getting a good job and saving a lot of your money.

She and I were both shy, timid and cautious. That's the way I was raised and is how I lived my younger years. My Dad was much more outgoing but even he, didn't like to gamble and take major chances. They grew up during the Great Depression and had this cautious trait about them.

Yes, well, we do tend to get cultized by our parents. But it is equally true that we get cultized by those we associate with, both during our upbringing/growing up, and as adults. That's why corporate America has something called "corporate cultures."

All national and religious and "tribal" groups have their particular "culture" . . . which leads to their particular cultish behavior.

Alan W developed what is called the "Cults and Cultures De-Oppression, De-Programming Run Down.":D It handles all of this.

It has neat questions like:
Connected to the cult/culture of . . . .
What is it OK to do
be
have
reach for
What is it not OK to do
be
have
reach for . . etc., etc.
It's a rather lengthy R/D, but well worth it. And part of the key to it are the identities one has adopted to play the part in the culture/cult :yes:


lkwdblds said:
I knew I had something different about me, a really outstanding memory and a different set of life values than most other people. Whenever I did make a speech or write something major, I was always able to cause a fairly good ripple and get a reaction out of people. This was the guy who timidly registered on ESMB about February 11, 2009.

My friends at CCLA were all rank and file lower level or mid level staff and public. To get out of that strata, my only means was my interest in classical music. I approached Susan Todhunter, a sort of elite level young woman, and because we both loved Mozart and opera, I was able to create a lasting friendship with her. I made friends with my auditor Sue who after auditing me for 300 hours, got to know that I had something worthwhile in my noodle. Heber Jentzch got to know me when he was Guardian for finanace and worked with me when I was holding down Treasury Secretary.

Those 3 friends, Susan the singer, Sue the auditor and Heber were my only 3 major league contacts at CCLA and of the three, Susan the singer is the only one I ever saw socially. All my other friends were behind the scenes guys, working in mimeo or addresso or in HCO or Div II, holding down admin posts. Actually, most of these people were completely phenomenal beings in their own rights but they were not major league names.

HERE ON ESMB, MY WHOLE LIFE HAS EXPANDED - I COMMUNICATE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS A LOT! In the last week Candy, Johnny and Joan have all originated calls to me. I have had lengthy discourses with Ken Urquhart and Bent Corydon on ESMB and have had several phone conversations with Carmelo and minor discourse with Diana, Class VIII.

I now also have Edey and a whole new non Scientology oriented circle of friends through all of her connections at Ginger's Gardens and the Unity Universalist Church. I still have significant discourse with my ex wife and have met her new boyfriend twice in my house and had conversations with him. Then I have communication with my two kids and my business picked up a little and I have have two new jobs and am working again with my homeowners and my old sub contractor friends.

THERE IS A LOT OF RANDOMITY THERE, A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE!

It seems to me that to have continuous excitement in your life, you have to have a lot of irons in the fire and you have to continuously create all the various aspects of your life. I am just sitting here in awe at how my life has changed. Nearly 71 now, when most men are playing golf or going up to Vegas on a bus full of old people on a junket or playing BINGO or playing bridge in a Senior Citizens' club house, I seem to be just starting out several new careers in the Major Leagues of life, having finally graduated from the Minor Leagues this year after a 69 year career of playing there.
Lakey

Well, Lakey, when you change considerations, you change conditions of existence:yes:

So it is worthwhile locating and getting rid of all those old on-auto "thoughts about things" that are the limiting chains of our being, doing, having . . . then, when you have undone the "limiters" reconceptualize your game and future with more optimum visions of what will be. :yes:

Rog
 

FoTi

Crusader
A super coincidence occurred. My good friend and soul mate Edey has her birthday on Sunday, Oct 17th. A large group of friends and acquaintances are gathering at a health food type restaurant to celebrate this event. I already put this on my calendar about 3 weeks ago.

On Monday, of this week, I received a phone call from Joan nee Joan Loosli, nee Joan Todhunter telling me that her birthday is Saturday, Oct 16 and she is having a dinner at her house to celebrate the event and that I am invited. Joan's Son, Remi, is a chef at some major restaurant in the Valley area of L.A. and he is going to do all the cooking for the party.

What is it with Libra women? My two closest women friends and their birthdays are one day apart and they are both having large parties. Well, it gets even more interesting. I asked Edey if she had invited Johnny THe Magic Thetan to her party and she said she hadn't because Johnny was going to be out of town in Seattle this week.

Joan also invited Edey who she met at our dinner and music outing in Fullerton a couple weeks ago. Edey RSVP'ed to Joan today and found out that Johnny is in town and he is going to Joan's party. Edey cannot make Joan's party because she only had about 4 days advanced notice and already had plans for that day. Edey then called me and asked me if she should invite Johnny to her party now that she knows he is in town and I said, of course, that she should. She told me she would invite him tonight.

THE PLOT THICKENS
I get home and turn on my computer and check this thread and Hats has posted videos of Johnny speaking at the Freezone Convention. I watch one video and decide to forward it via email to Edey. I then come back and watch another Johnny video and while I am watching, my phone rings and IT IS JOHHNNY! He just called to say hi! I asked him if Edey invited him to her party and he said that she had not so I took it upon myself to invite him. You know, she told me she would do it tonight so when he called me, I just saved her a call and invited Johnny. He said that he thinks he will come! He has to check his calendar first when he gets home but he thought he was free and if he was free, he said that he will come. How about that!

PURPLE HAZE CALLS ME the night I heard the Channeling demonstration. Purple Haze has come out on Facebook using her own name, Candy Swanson. Of course that is the first CC Celebrity Auditor whom I called Tonto in my Origins of Celebrity Centre story posted on this thread and on its own independent thread on ESMB. Candy has posted some incredible photographs of herself and her friends from the mid and late 1970's. I met her just briefly in 1971 and was on staff with her at CCLA in 1971-72. Some of her pictures show that she was a very "hot" and sexy woman back in the 70's. So on the phone, I tell Candy that I have read her Facebook site and left some comments. She asks me if I have seen the pictures she has posted. I say, yes I have seen them and wow you looked just as I remember you in 1971. YOU WERE HOT!!

There was a delay, and then Candy repeats, I WAS hot? I realized that I had fired a foot bullet and tried to recover my aplomb (a Mark Baker word meaning composure). First I said, "Well Candy, you are still a very attractive woman for your age but you were in your mid twenties in those days." There was a comm lag, seconds of dead air and I knew I was still in trouble. I continued, "Candy, it just isn't the same. I mean I am still handsome for a 70 year old man but back in 1971 I was much much hotter than I am now. That's just the way it is. That seemed to do it and she said cheerfully, I was really hot wasn't I?. I said, "Yes, you were really awesome looking, one of the two or three best looking women at the old CCLA." She then said, well I am a lot more worldly and wiser now than I was then, that's for sure. I asked, are you telling me that if you had the wisdom then which you have now, you would have lived your life differently and she said things would have been a lot different. She said that things would have been totally different especially vis a vis her relationships with various men.

TIME PASSAGE USUALLY EQUATES TO GAINS IN WISDOM Looking at my own life, this was certainly the case and when Candy told me it was true in her life as well, that gave me pause to think. In her life, back in the early 1970's Scientology scene, whe was a big VIP, a Kha Khan, in pretty tight with LRH and was auditing movie stars such as Karen Black and Directors such as Milton Katselas and Ernest Lehman. She was already a celebrity in her own right and when she told me she was far far wiser now, I learned something.

I've met a few who were wiser in their youth and went off the rails as they matured but for most of us, our life experiences teach us a lot and we gain greatly in widsom. Move ahead 40 years and the person is much wiser.

To me an exception might be a man such as Orson Wells. He was just brilliant as a young man, a movie director, a movie star, a radio personality, he embodied great achievment and wisdom at a young age. When he was older, he was just known for acting in non descript wine commercials. He did nothing major of a creative nature in the second half of his life. What is with that?

Roger, any comments which you make on this topic above would be appreceiated.
Lakey

Which Candy Swanson is she on Facebook? How can we see her pictures?
 

FoTi

Crusader
Lakey wrote:

OK, which part? :D

You trying to get me to bail you out of your faux pas with Candy? :D

Not me Mate :no:

I just went onto Candy's FB page and looked at her pictures, and what I saw is a gorgeous Being . . . there is real life there! Enormous presence and love of and for the game and the relationships and parts in it.

Yes, and a good looking body too . . . . . but did you not notice the Being? The emanation about her that imbues everything about her with prosperity?

And the pics were a good trip down memory lane . . . even though I've not met Candy in the flesh . . . there were familiar scenes/people there.

On Orson Wells . . . I'd say the man was a bit of a "maniac," irresponsible, and probably a little hard to get along with so, after an early success or two (I loved his "Othello") no one would work with him or back him.

It is likely that he was so full of himself that he offended those he needed to work with, as in getting financial backing for his proposed creations, to succeed.

R

How did you get to see Candy's pictures? There's a lot of Candy Swanson's there....I couldn't find her.
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
The Southern Germans, mainly Catholics, were much more fun loving and laid back than their Protestant Northern counterparts. The latter often seemed to act as if a rod was shoved up their asses. They can be pretty stiff and serious.


You tryin' to piss me off boy?
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
But hey! If you're connected to Candy Swanson then you'll run into Robin soon enough. He's a good friend of mine from NZ. Quite a character too.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
What? :ohmy: We have naysayers??? :omg:

Lemmeattem! :grouch: Show me a naysayer...go ahead...I will give them such a thump!!! :nervous:

On this thread we are all about helping one another. :happydance: Learning with each another :questions: and having fun! :yes:

I love communication! :happydance: :biglove:

Go team!!! :D :cheerleader:

:grouphug:


On occasion there comes an Operating Brain seeking to elevate its stature and titillate its senses. After a day of being helpful at the keyboard, I like my meatballs with a nice red sauce and a glass of wine. That's all I am saying.

:coolwink:
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
...snip...
Yes, well, we do tend to get cultized by our parents. But it is equally true that we get cultized by those we associate with, both during our upbringing/growing up, and as adults. That's why corporate America has something called "corporate cultures."

All national and religious and "tribal" groups have their particular "culture" . . . which leads to their particular cultish behavior.

Alan W developed what is called the "Cults and Cultures De-Oppression, De-Programming Run Down.":D It handles all of this.

It has neat questions like:
Connected to the cult/culture of . . . .
What is it OK to do
be
have
reach for
What is it not OK to do
be
have
reach for . . etc., etc.
It's a rather lengthy R/D, but well worth it. And part of the key to it are the identities one has adopted to play the part in the culture/cult :yes:

...snip...

Rog

I realized last week when I came across some heavy inertia that I had gone into the valence of someone who 'wouldn't have these (my) goals for me. I spotted that there is a package of things that valences will and won't have/permit____be___do __have!

Then I saw that it sometimes is no simple matter of What are you and Who are you to cause separation. It can break you of the misconception you are under but it does not handle the standing ridges of heavy force that bridle you. Especially if the being you are dealing with has the same intentions towards you. It doesn't handle the intentions and unmockingness directed at you. For me I discovered that I had mostly substitute goals in this lilfe. Yep..goals that I had less than peak interest in. My real goals were packed up so that if I set forth on 'those' paths again I got automatic shit hitting me hard. It has caused me not to have a high energy level.

Yesterday I cognited on what problem abuse solves for the abuser. In extreme abuse there is actually a part of one's life force that gets impacted in the abuser's identity. I looked at all the times that I had seen couples start a relationship with their key positions staked out with abusive episodes. Then once the winner was sure of their ability to call the shots things calmed down.The abuser felt secure that the other would not DO things that they themselves would not want because of innate fear of the ensuing drama.
 

RogerB

Crusader
How did you get to see Candy's pictures? There's a lot of Candy Swanson's there....I couldn't find her.

The sweet Dear is in my FaceBook as one of my friends . . . . probably as a result of me knowing how to treat a lady :D

R
 

FoTi

Crusader
The sweet Dear is in my FaceBook as one of my friends . . . . probably as a result of me knowing how to treat a lady :D

R

Are you inferring that I don't know how to treat a lady?

So, which Candy Swanson is she?

I would like to see her pictures too.
 

RogerB

Crusader
I realized last week when I came across some heavy inertia that I had gone into the valence of someone who 'wouldn't have these (my) goals for me. I spotted that there is a package of things that valences will and won't have/permit____be___do __have!

Then I saw that it sometimes is no simple matter of What are you and Who are you to cause separation. It can break you of the misconception you are under but it does not handle the standing ridges of heavy force that bridle you. Especially if the being you are dealing with has the same intentions towards you. It doesn't handle the intentions and unmockingness directed at you. For me I discovered that I had mostly substitute goals in this lilfe. Yep..goals that I had less than peak interest in. My real goals were packed up so that if I set forth on 'those' paths again I got automatic shit hitting me hard. It has caused me not to have a high energy level.

Yesterday I cognited on what problem abuse solves for the abuser. In extreme abuse there is actually a part of one's life force that gets impacted in the abuser's identity. I looked at all the times that I had seen couples start a relationship with their key positions staked out with abusive episodes. Then once the winner was sure of their ability to call the shots things calmed down.The abuser felt secure that the other would not DO things that they themselves would not want because of innate fear of the ensuing drama.

Hats,

Just got to this (with a skin full of wine) so I'll comment in more lucid terms tomorrow :D

Probably a PM with some specific info :D

You are a very aware young lady :yes: Be sure to do a full honoring and appreciation of your abilities as you progress . . . that way you'll empower and keep you gains as you progress.

Most folks have wins, feel good, and without the proper handling of the accomplishment are left wondering "what was all that about" and don't retain the ascended to ability/power.

That is what screwed up the wins in the church that folks did have.

Rog
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top