The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[LongTimeGone]

Hey EVERYONE, Ted is Santa AND he's met Jesus.

I always knew there was a Sanity Clause.

D.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Hey EVERYONE, Ted is Santa AND he's met Jesus.

I always knew there was a Sanity Clause.

D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbw9-uq9sMU

Man, I knew Jesus when he was just a kid walking on mud puddles.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Oh, it's not that bad. The deal just isn't what they told you. Once I had children of my own I discovered that I am Santa!

Madonna. Cheeky.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alaPt6bMiqE

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqiMNW_Mha0&feature=related

one of the best Christmas albums, for my money, is Phil Spector's (Wall of Sound) Christmas album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNlLRiBIarI&feature=related

 

[FoTi]

I am Santa!

Well, at least you know who YOU are. And since you let the cat out of the bag, Santa.......please bring me a big bag of new $100 bills for Christmas and I'll be sure to leave you some milk and cookies on Christmas Eve. And be sure to dress extra warm....this winter is a lot colder than usual.

 

[Ted]

The Dalai Lama Says...

Dalai Lama: "Hatred, jealousy and excessive attachment cause suffering and agitation. I feel compassion can help us overcome these disturbances and let us return to a calm state of mind. Compassion is not just being kind to your friend. That involves attachment because it is based on expectation. Compassion is when you do something good without any expectations – based on realizing that 'the other person is also just like me'.”


That is a profound realization.

When I say realization I do not mean some mental meandering, some rearrangement of mental furniture and signposts, or a casual placement of some old idea into the fore for consideration and evaluation. I mean a new realization! This And/or this And/or this And/or this :dancer:

'Twas many years ago when I ran Dianetics as a pc. It was a complete slog going nowhere. What a bunch of shit. What have I gotten myself into? FUCK!

Being the 1.1, anti-social, anti-scientological person that I am I determined to change the process commands after the auditor delivered them making them a present time process -- an OT process. "Locate an incident happening now of (flow) causing (pain, sensation, emotion, attitude)." and so on down to "What happened?" which became "What's happening?" as I observed the event in the physical universe.

After one session of that I went back to following the commands. But the idea of an auditor running my pix like a motion picture projector, that was never going to happen. It's not in my nature to allow another that degree of control over me or my thoughts.

Anyway, I had several weeks of very fine sessions. I know they were fine because stuff was really popping. I felt physically lighter. One session I could hear the meter needle slapping like crazy against the pins. The blockage in my head drained. It felt as though my head was a huge egg that had just drained leaving nothing but a light, empty shell. That needle slapping was a hugely floating TA. We did not know to call them in those days.

This is memorable stuff.

In what I call my final Dianetics session, the one where I determined I had achieved my goal of Clear, I came to the realization above. The other is just like me! This was not a rearrangement of mental turds in a toilet bowl. This was a complete flush with nothing left behind.

I'll keep the details to myself as I am the only being in all the universes who could appreciate the accomplishment. But with that one exception, the other is just like me!

 

[RogerB]

Dalai Lama: "Hatred, jealousy and excessive attachment cause suffering and agitation. I feel compassion can help us overcome these disturbances and let us return to a calm state of mind. Compassion is not just being kind to your friend. That involves attachment because it is based on expectation. Compassion is when you do something good without any expectations – based on realizing that 'the other person is also just like me'.”


That is a profound realization.

When I say realization I do not mean some mental meandering, some rearrangement of mental furniture and signposts, or a casual placement of some old idea into the fore for consideration and evaluation. I mean a new realization! This And/or this And/or this And/or this :dancer:

'Twas many years ago when I ran Dianetics as a pc. It was a complete slog going nowhere. What a bunch of shit. What have I gotten myself into? FUCK!

Being the 1.1, anti-social, anti-scientological person that I am I determined to change the process commands after the auditor delivered them making them a present time process -- an OT process. "Locate an incident happening now of (flow) causing (pain, sensation, emotion, attitude)." and so on down to "What happened?" which became "What's happening?" as I observed the event in the physical universe.

After one session of that I went back to following the commands. But the idea of an auditor running my pix like a motion picture projector, that was never going to happen. It's not in my nature to allow another that degree of control over me or my thoughts.

Anyway, I had several weeks of very fine sessions. I know they were fine because stuff was really popping. I felt physically lighter. One session I could hear the meter needle slapping like crazy against the pins. The blockage in my head drained. It felt as though my head was a huge egg that had just drained leaving nothing but a light, empty shell. That needle slapping was a hugely floating TA. We did not know to call them in those days.

This is memorable stuff.

In what I call my final Dianetics session, the one where I determined I had achieved my goal of Clear, I came to the realization above. The other is just like me! This was not a rearrangement of mental turds in a toilet bowl. This was a complete flush with nothing left behind.

I'll keep the details to myself as I am the only being in all the universes who could appreciate the accomplishment. But with that one exception, the other is just like me!

Ted,

You wrote:

I'll keep the details to myself as I am the only being in all the universes who could appreciate the accomplishment. But with that one exception, the other is just like me!

Man, I dig it . . . and definitely do appreciate it, in all of the meanings of that word.

That is a colossal accomplishment you have described there. And I luvvvved that deal you pulled on locating the Presence Time Now thing/condition to process.

Very, very clever!

Rog

 

[FoTi]

Dalai Lama: "Hatred, jealousy and excessive attachment cause suffering and agitation. I feel compassion can help us overcome these disturbances and let us return to a calm state of mind. Compassion is not just being kind to your friend. That involves attachment because it is based on expectation. Compassion is when you do something good without any expectations – based on realizing that 'the other person is also just like me'.”


That is a profound realization.

When I say realization I do not mean some mental meandering, some rearrangement of mental furniture and signposts, or a casual placement of some old idea into the fore for consideration and evaluation. I mean a new realization! This And/or this And/or this And/or this :dancer:

'Twas many years ago when I ran Dianetics as a pc. It was a complete slog going nowhere. What a bunch of shit. What have I gotten myself into? FUCK!

Being the 1.1, anti-social, anti-scientological person that I am I determined to change the process commands after the auditor delivered them making them a present time process -- an OT process. "Locate an incident happening now of (flow) causing (pain, sensation, emotion, attitude)." and so on down to "What happened?" which became "What's happening?" as I observed the event in the physical universe.

After one session of that I went back to following the commands. But the idea of an auditor running my pix like a motion picture projector, that was never going to happen. It's not in my nature to allow another that degree of control over me or my thoughts.

Anyway, I had several weeks of very fine sessions. I know they were fine because stuff was really popping. I felt physically lighter. One session I could hear the meter needle slapping like crazy against the pins. The blockage in my head drained. It felt as though my head was a huge egg that had just drained leaving nothing but a light, empty shell. That needle slapping was a hugely floating TA. We did not know to call them in those days.

This is memorable stuff.

In what I call my final Dianetics session, the one where I determined I had achieved my goal of Clear, I came to the realization above. The other is just like me! This was not a rearrangement of mental turds in a toilet bowl. This was a complete flush with nothing left behind.

I'll keep the details to myself as I am the only being in all the universes who could appreciate the accomplishment. But with that one exception, the other is just like me!

Thanks for sharing your experience, Ted.

 

[Ted]

Thanks for sharing your experience, Ted.

3200 Adams Ave. Upstairs.

 

[FoTi]

3200 Adams Ave. Upstairs.

What year was that?

 

[Ted]

What year was that?

1974

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Dalai Lama: "Hatred, jealousy and excessive attachment cause suffering and agitation. I feel compassion can help us overcome these disturbances and let us return to a calm state of mind. Compassion is not just being kind to your friend. That involves attachment because it is based on expectation. Compassion is when you do something good without any expectations – based on realizing that 'the other person is also just like me'.”


That is a profound realization.

When I say realization I do not mean some mental meandering, some rearrangement of mental furniture and signposts, or a casual placement of some old idea into the fore for consideration and evaluation. I mean a new realization! This And/or this And/or this And/or this :dancer:

'Twas many years ago when I ran Dianetics as a pc. It was a complete slog going nowhere. What a bunch of shit. What have I gotten myself into? FUCK!

Being the 1.1, anti-social, anti-scientological person that I am I determined to change the process commands after the auditor delivered them making them a present time process -- an OT process. "Locate an incident happening now of (flow) causing (pain, sensation, emotion, attitude)." and so on down to "What happened?" which became "What's happening?" as I observed the event in the physical universe.

After one session of that I went back to following the commands. But the idea of an auditor running my pix like a motion picture projector, that was never going to happen. It's not in my nature to allow another that degree of control over me or my thoughts.

Anyway, I had several weeks of very fine sessions. I know they were fine because stuff was really popping. I felt physically lighter. One session I could hear the meter needle slapping like crazy against the pins. The blockage in my head drained. It felt as though my head was a huge egg that had just drained leaving nothing but a light, empty shell. That needle slapping was a hugely floating TA. We did not know to call them in those days.

This is memorable stuff.

In what I call my final Dianetics session, the one where I determined I had achieved my goal of Clear, I came to the realization above. The other is just like me! This was not a rearrangement of mental turds in a toilet bowl. This was a complete flush with nothing left behind.

I'll keep the details to myself as I am the only being in all the universes who could appreciate the accomplishment. But with that one exception, the other is just like me!

I get this.

Thanks Ted...thanks a whole bunch.

Face

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

?????

Watched "Cabaret" on TCM tonight. Whatta great flick.

Now I ask y'all...How do the Jews do it?:confused2:

Think about it...Performing Arts and Letters, Sciences, Mathematics, Law, Finance, Business, Humanities, Academics.

Why?

Face

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

A voice of experience.

Watched "Cabaret" on TCM tonight. Whatta great flick.

Now I ask y'all...How do the Jews do it?:confused2:

Think about it...Performing Arts and Letters, Sciences, Mathematics, Law, Finance, Business, Humanities, Academics.

Why?

Face

Face, as a non-religious Protestant married to a spectacularly accomplished Jewish woman for almost 40 years and having been raised with Jewish next-door neighbors on two sides, etc, etc,...

I spent a good couple of hours mentally formulating and composing an answer to your question - until I realized that I would have to write a whole novel sized book...and probly would not even scratch the surface at that.

Then I remembered the following, which was told me on more than one occasion and with a little consideration and rumination on your part, you may find that it pretty much answers the question posed.

"Jews are just like everybody else - except more so!"

Mike, EP, Shegitz, etc

 

[purple haze]

Dalai Lama: "Hatred, jealousy and excessive attachment cause suffering and agitation. I feel compassion can help us overcome these disturbances and let us return to a calm state of mind. Compassion is not just being kind to your friend. That involves attachment because it is based on expectation. Compassion is when you do something good without any expectations – based on realizing that 'the other person is also just like me'.”


That is a profound realization.

When I say realization I do not mean some mental meandering, some rearrangement of mental furniture and signposts, or a casual placement of some old idea into the fore for consideration and evaluation. I mean a new realization! This And/or this And/or this And/or this :dancer:

'Twas many years ago when I ran Dianetics as a pc. It was a complete slog going nowhere. What a bunch of shit. What have I gotten myself into? FUCK!

Being the 1.1, anti-social, anti-scientological person that I am I determined to change the process commands after the auditor delivered them making them a present time process -- an OT process. "Locate an incident happening now of (flow) causing (pain, sensation, emotion, attitude)." and so on down to "What happened?" which became "What's happening?" as I observed the event in the physical universe.

After one session of that I went back to following the commands. But the idea of an auditor running my pix like a motion picture projector, that was never going to happen. It's not in my nature to allow another that degree of control over me or my thoughts.

Anyway, I had several weeks of very fine sessions. I know they were fine because stuff was really popping. I felt physically lighter. One session I could hear the meter needle slapping like crazy against the pins. The blockage in my head drained. It felt as though my head was a huge egg that had just drained leaving nothing but a light, empty shell. That needle slapping was a hugely floating TA. We did not know to call them in those days.

This is memorable stuff.

In what I call my final Dianetics session, the one where I determined I had achieved my goal of Clear, I came to the realization above. The other is just like me! This was not a rearrangement of mental turds in a toilet bowl. This was a complete flush with nothing left behind.

I'll keep the details to myself as I am the only being in all the universes who could appreciate the accomplishment. But with that one exception, the other is just like me!

Congradulations! I appreciate and FULLY duplicate. Auditor + pc are a TEAM. no one has seniority over the other, in my book, for the work to truly work. I find it is the theta to theta connection that allows for real auditing to occur.

 

[purple haze]

my present rant

Sorry about being such a train-wreck lately, world.

Had a couple of run-ins with supposedly good friends of mine in the past week, along with a head-on crash from a psychotic trail house person, which has left my body in a lot of pain since Friday.

Why these good ole men think they have the right to put and keep us real women down, after all the oppression and threat by the macho feminists, is beyond my ken.

I gotta go buy you some food and water, dear? You fucking ass-twerp! Get a fucking job and stop trying to live off this woman’s kindness and generous spirit, for naught in return. Get your gigolo ass in gear and pull yourself outta yer own hole by yer boot straps and get me some money, honey. Charging me rent {...} is beginning to get under my skin…and you have the audacity to want me to pay half of your property tax on top of that!?#&!

Where do men get off thinking that us women owe them the world?

I got a friend I just took to a lovely party last night, who I’ve known for forty years…:dance2:

I made the mistake, apparently [he told me after, like a nagging housewife, on our way to my car for me to drive his sorry ass all the way back to the place he freely resides] of telling his new love interest that I had bought him his first guitar. He still owes me for it, as promised [including a promissory note for $6000 he wrote and brought to me at my home in Hawaii ten years prior to now] but can or will he ever pay even a penny for it? What kind of dishonesty is this? Pot head kind. Wonder if I started charging him back interest with penalties set from now on, say, a measly 4%, doubling every year from this day forward until paid in full: maybe that would get his sorry ass in gear and be good for his music career… maybe I’m the bad guy in this, allowing him to whine his way along the garden path, never getting off his duff..

This brings me to the other dude, his royal highness introduced me to, who scalped me and totally betrayed my trust…stealing my café right out from under me: the first weekly check for $200 cleared, the next bounced…by the time I was able to get together the money to pay for my airfare, get out of my new living situation and intimate relationship, and get meself back to LA and walk into the door of my little ole café, to see how it had been raped and pillaged and laid bare…too late! Fuck wad had flown the coop  I couldn’t even ever get back my beautyful French grain grinder still sitting in the kitchen, because the folks he had sold it to, who changed the name so they didn’t owe the $15,000 in bad credit he had rung up in 2 months’ time, had resold it and the people now owning it had turned it into a bakery, etc, etc.

It sickens me to think of it, all purty, with all my personal stuff still in it, ransacked and taken down to the pit of desperation… how my customers must have suffered my disappearance, helpless at the hands of a maniac macho man supposed business manager, ex tow truck driver, con artist, I later found out…

So, did Frankie ever take any responsibility for turning me over to this kingpin of intimidation and hidden mental filth? And now I’m in touch with him through Facebook, 33 years later… Mr. David Aaron Seville, once Riley, a Jewish bastard very much like the NYC punk that took over and terrorized the North Shore, Fast Eddie, head of the black trunk mafia, now smelling like a rose since he got off scott-free from the master coke distributor charges…don't get me wrong. I love Jews up close in personal. As a culture, they're quite amazing, over time. And remember, I was married to a wonderful Jewish man, Ira.

No wonder the feminists got crazy. All these bad apples spoiled the vat of wonderful men who slave away every day for their women and children: the family man who doesn’t screw around, has a true-blue heart of gold…not forced on him by some cult who threatens and destroys everyone’s lives by mental stress and physical intimidation and outright domination:nailbiting::shock:, but excels by his own good nature.

The rant is done. What do I do with this stuff?

Post it here!

Purple

 

[Ted]

Sorry about being such a train-wreck lately, world.

Had a couple of run-ins with supposedly good friends of mine in the past week, along with a head-on crash from a psychotic trail house person, which has left my body in a lot of pain since Friday.

Why these good ole men think they have the right to put and keep us real women down, after all the oppression and threat by the macho feminists, is beyond my ken.

I gotta go buy you some food and water, dear? You fucking ass-twerp! Get a fucking job and stop trying to live off this woman’s kindness and generous spirit, for naught in return. Get your gigolo ass in gear and pull yourself outta yer own hole by yer boot straps and get me some money, honey. Charging me rent {...} is beginning to get under my skin…and you have the audacity to want me to pay half of your property tax on top of that!?#&!

Where do men get off thinking that us women owe them the world?

I got a friend I just took to a lovely party last night, who I’ve known for forty years…:dance2:

I made the mistake, apparently [he told me after, like a nagging housewife, on our way to my car for me to drive his sorry ass all the way back to the place he freely resides] of telling his new love interest that I had bought him his first guitar. He still owes me for it, as promised [including a promissory note for $6000 he wrote and brought to me at my home in Hawaii ten years prior to now] but can or will he ever pay even a penny for it? What kind of dishonesty is this? Pot head kind. Wonder if I started charging him back interest with penalties set from now on, say, a measly 4%, doubling every year from this day forward until paid in full: maybe that would get his sorry ass in gear and be good for his music career… maybe I’m the bad guy in this, allowing him to whine his way along the garden path, never getting off his duff..

This brings me to the other dude, his royal highness introduced me to, who scalped me and totally betrayed my trust…stealing my café right out from under me: the first weekly check for $200 cleared, the next bounced…by the time I was able to get together the money to pay for my airfare, get out of my new living situation and intimate relationship, and get meself back to LA and walk into the door of my little ole café, to see how it had been raped and pillaged and laid bare…too late! Fuck wad had flown the coop  I couldn’t even ever get back my beautyful French grain grinder still sitting in the kitchen, because the folks he had sold it to, who changed the name so they didn’t owe the $15,000 in bad credit he had rung up in 2 months’ time, had resold it and the people now owning it had turned it into a bakery, etc, etc.

It sickens me to think of it, all purty, with all my personal stuff still in it, ransacked and taken down to the pit of desperation… how my customers must have suffered my disappearance, helpless at the hands of a maniac macho man supposed business manager, ex tow truck driver, con artist, I later found out…

So, did Frankie ever take any responsibility for turning me over to this kingpin of intimidation and hidden mental filth? And now I’m in touch with him through Facebook, 33 years later… Mr. David Aaron Seville, once Riley, a Jewish bastard very much like the NYC punk that took over and terrorized the North Shore, Fast Eddie, head of the black trunk mafia, now smelling like a rose since he got off scott-free from the master coke distributor charges…don't get me wrong. I love Jews up close in personal. As a culture, they're quite amazing, over time. And remember, I was married to a wonderful Jewish man, Ira.

No wonder the feminists got crazy. All these bad apples spoiled the vat of wonderful men who slave away every day for their women and children: the family man who doesn’t screw around, has a true-blue heart of gold…not forced on him by some cult who threatens and destroys everyone’s lives by mental stress and physical intimidation and outright domination:nailbiting::shock:, but excels by his own good nature.

The rant is done. What do I do with this stuff?

Post it here!

Purple

Hey Purplie, good ranting!

In the first few paragraphs I saw a good, old Motown song brewing. "Get a job!" Pretty simple.

After that I thought maybe a country song? But no. My gut says there's more to come. It's like a rant crossroads of ranting opportunity. Some Godfather theme would be appropriate going off in one direction; some country off in another; some blues in yet another.

Am I correct? Could there be more to come? If so, carry on!

In the meantime, here's something to sooth your soul:

"IZ"

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Watched "Cabaret" on TCM tonight. Whatta great flick.

Now I ask y'all...How do the Jews do it?:confused2:

Think about it...Performing Arts and Letters, Sciences, Mathematics, Law, Finance, Business, Humanities, Academics.

Why?

Face

There is a solid historical/sociological basis for a LOT of it based out of nearly 2000 years of persecution & religious discrimination by european christians. Basically jews were not allowed to own real property (land) anywhere in christian europe and were frequently subjected to life threatening persecution. This eliminated the dominant form of economic activity (agricultural pursuits) as a means of economic activity as well as participation in government (christians only) and military (christians again).

This led to focus on activities which could be sustained ANYWHERE at ANYTIME and allowing for the need for sudden rapid changes of locale in accordance with developing political, religious, and military circumstances. Hence, economic activities which focused on mercantile trades, entertainment, or highly skilled or educated trades became common in jewish communities with all the social factors of the community geared towards enhancing the survival of the whole group through promoting such activities.

In short, jews being differentiated from the population as a whole learned to value education, mutual support & networking, transportable wealth (jems, currency trading, banking), and also to keep attuned to the political cross-currents of the times. These are valuable skills and ideas for communal groups to share, especially in the light of rapidly changing societies; much more so than the sort of "plain speaking rugged individualism" often mythologized by agriculturally dominated societies. Thus jewish cultures, partly as a result of rampant & widespread discrimination, evolved to emphasize the skills of urban elites as opposed to the "plain 'old-fashioned' values" characteristic of rural populations.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Hatshepsut]

There is a solid historical/sociological basis for a LOT of it based out of nearly 2000 years of persecution & religious discrimination by european christians. Basically jews were not allowed to own real property (land) anywhere in christian europe and were frequently subjected to life threatening persecution. This eliminated the dominant form of economic activity (agricultural pursuits) as a means of economic activity as well as participation in government (christians only) and military (christians again).

This led to focus on activities which could be sustained ANYWHERE at ANYTIME and allowing for the need for sudden rapid changes of locale in accordance with developing political, religious, and military circumstances. Hence, economic activities which focused on mercantile trades, entertainment, or highly skilled or educated trades became common in jewish communities with all the social factors of the community geared towards enhancing the survival of the whole group through promoting such activities.

In short, jews being differentiated from the population as a whole learned to value education, mutual support & networking, transportable wealth (jems, currency trading, banking), and also to keep attuned to the political cross-currents of the times. These are valuable skills and ideas for communal groups to share, especially in the light of rapidly changing societies; much more so than the sort of "plain speaking rugged individualism" often mythologized by agriculturally dominated societies. Thus jewish cultures, partly as a result of rampant & widespread discrimination, evolved to emphasize the skills of urban elites as opposed to the "plain 'old-fashioned' values" characteristic of rural populations.


Mark A. Baker

Couldn't it just be they are smarter than the average bear? Before 2000 yrs ago the same traits existed. Not just their scholastics but mysticism, astronomy, etc.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Couldn't it just be they are smarter than the average bear? Before 2000 yrs ago the same traits existed.

That has been argued, notably by the authors of "The Bell Curve". Routinely on large statistical IQ analyses asian peoples place highest, with jewish european populations excelling over non-jewish european populations.

Such analyses are problematic for a lot of reasons, mostly having to do with bad initial assumptions, and invalid interpretations. Hence the controversy over "The Bell Curve".

Although with regard to the jewish community, 2000 years of genetic & cultural evolution are thought to be the drivers of any such divergence from european populations generally.

Not just their scholastics but mysticism, astronomy, etc.

That is assumption on your part and largely unwarranted assumption at that. Jewish culture in antiquity was not notably an "intellectual" one. Quite the contrary. The jews of the bible were largely an agricultural population with high rates of illiteracy. The urban jews were of the sort that the bible denounces as being less concerned with maintaining "god's religion" and more interested in the economic & intellectual exchanges and trade possible with non-jewish peoples.

What made urban jews "sophisticated" in comparison to their rural cousins was their relative familiarity with non-jewish cultures. This was exactly that which made them "anathema" to the more devout & pious jews.

Remember the "trader's in the temple"? They were there to exchange foreign "unholy" currency denominations into local "religious" currency for the temple sacrifices mandated to all jews everywhere. Foreign jews usually only had foreign money with which to pay for sacrifices. Not good enough for "purists".

While jews remained in their own territory in the middle east they were certainly no more developed than surrounding non-jewish peoples. Indeed, they were considered rather "backwards" from the perspective of the more cosmopolitan peoples of Persia, Asia, and the Mediterranean, all of whom were far more advanced in the categories which you delineate as well as many others unmentioned by you. The gentile greek populations of early palestine were quite sophisticated culturally and intellectually and tended to regard their jewish neighbors as a bunch of unsophisticated yokels & religious terrorists. See the history of the various jewish rebellions where jewish religious fanatics routinely slaughtered non-jewish populations until such time as they were forcibly suppressed by Roman Imperial legions. The attitude of gentiles in palestine in the first centuries b.c.e./c.e. toward jewish populations parallel modern views of islamic peoples as held by unsophisticated & uninformed westerners since the beginnings of the "war on terrorism".

The development of a genuinely intellectual tradition in jewish culture does not occur until the jews start to become separated from their ideal of a "jewish homeland" and adopt a more cosmopolitan outlook. Apart from its preoccupation with obsessive monotheistic religious fanaticism and religious intolerance, early jewish culture has contributed little directly to the development of western culture.


Mark A. Baker