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Re: Morning Joe

CarmeloOrchards said:
Roger,

I've been pondering an answer to you for days.

I just can't get my head around the right context for a reply.

As I've mentioned before, too many times, I walked precincts for Barry Goldwater in 1963-64, at age 13. My libertarian views are undimmed.

On the other hand, politics is the art of the possible (Bismarck). When Bill Clinton was in office, and the Republicans were trying to "get" him, the government of the Congress and Executive branch virtually went on holiday. They were so enmeshed in the dog fight, that almost no legislation got passed. From my point of view, that is the way it should be. The little and big fiefdoms checkmated. No new laws.

Congress and presidents do not have the concept of live and let live. They all want to put their mark on history. We don't need more laws. We need less busybody congressmen making laws that cost more money, set up new bureaucracies, steal from the producers, etc.

I thought Bill Clinton's observation, to that effect, that the American public wanted this, was SPOT ON.
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I do not know what Clinton said. Whatever it was, it will shift slightly as the composition of his audience changes.

But, I do agree with the points I highlighted in red.
 
Re: Morning Joe

Ted said:
I do not know what Clinton said. Whatever it was, it will shift slightly as the composition of his audience changes.
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No doubt. It's an outcome of the use of ARC with others to communicate. In case you forgot what that was it's the application of an appropriate emotional tone and intellectual context in the communications you engage in with others.

Some people, mostly softheaded liberals of course, think that it actually serves as an aid to creating mutual understanding & respect even where disagreement remains. Bill Clinton is something of a natural when it comes to the use of ARC with people. That is one of the many reasons which those who have chosen to obsessively oppterm him hate him; he's a living embodiment of the goal of Stuart Smalley's Dailey Affirmation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIETlxquzY

If you can't defeat an opponent through the application of reason, well then there's nothing left but to unleash one's hatred.


Mark A. Baker :biggrin:
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Something to ponder.

Ignorance is Strength

"Throughout recorded time, and probably since the end of the Neolithic Age, there have been three kinds of people in the world, the High, the Middle, and the Low. They have been subdivided in many ways, they have borne countless different names, and their relative numbers, as well as their attitude towards one another, have varied from age to age: but the essential structure of society has never altered. Even after enormous upheavals and seemingly irrevocable changes, the same pattern has always reasserted itself, just as a gyroscope will always return to equilibrium, however far it is pushed one way or the other.

The aims of these three groups are entirely irreconcilable. The aim of the High is to remain where they are. The aim of the Middle is to change places with the High. The aim of the Low, when they have an aim -- for it is an abiding characteristic of the Low that they are too much crushed by drudgery to be more than intermittently conscious of anything outside their daily lives -- is to abolish all distinctions and create a society in which all men shall be equal. Thus throughout history a struggle which is the same in its main outlines recurs over and over again. For long periods the High seem to be securely in power, but sooner or later there always comes a moment when they lose either their belief in themselves or their capacity to govern efficiently, or both. They are then overthrown by the Middle, who enlist the Low on their side by pretending to them that they are fighting for liberty and justice. As soon as they have reached their objective, the Middle thrust the Low back into their old position of servitude, and themselves become the High. Presently a new Middle group splits off from one of the other groups, or from both of them, and the struggle begins over again. Of the three groups, only the Low are never even temporarily successful in achieving their aims. It would be an exaggeration to say that throughout history there has been no progress of a material kind. Even today, in a period of decline, the average human being is physically better off than he was a few centuries ago. But no advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimetre nearer. From the point of view of the Low, no historic change has ever meant much more than a change in the name of their masters."

-- Orwell, 1984.

As Mao said "Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun."

Seems to be generally true - especially when it comes to foreign relations.
 
Re: Morning Joe

Mark A. Baker said:
No doubt. It's an outcome of the use of ARC with others to communicate. In case you forgot what that was it's the application of an appropriate emotional tone and intellectual context in the communications you engage in with others.

Some people, mostly softheaded liberals of course, think that it actually serves as an aid to creating mutual understanding & respect even where disagreement remains. Bill Clinton is something of a natural when it comes to the use of ARC with people. That is one of the many reasons which those who have chosen to obsessively oppterm him hate him; he's a living embodiment of the goal of Stuart Smalley's Dailey Affirmation.



If you can't defeat an opponent through the application of reason, well then there's nothing left but to unleash one's hatred.


Mark A. Baker :biggrin:
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I liked old Bill even though he was as sleazy as a politician can be. Must be the ARC, huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

And as we all know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0

I suppose it all depends on your definition of "didn't like it."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bktd_Pi4YJw&feature=related

And back to the matter of ARC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdji_M9gscA&feature=related
 
Re: new addiction: the 60s

CarmeloOrchards said:
following the success of Mad Men, which I am thoroughly hooked on, NBC has The Playboy Club and ABC has Pan Am.

The 60s were a happening time, a golden age.

I'm loving all of these TV shows.

I haven't watched so many TV shows since ................. the 60s.


as it has been said, "It's all about me."
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You need to catch " Downton Abbey" per Guinness book of records the most highly praised TV series ever.

More importantly I rate it thus!
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

:omg:Yesterday morning I got up.....no internet. :pullhair:

The server went down in my area code and was down until this morning. 30,000 people lost their internet here yesterday. It was strange not having access to the internet.....I have become so accustomed to it. After the server came back up, it took AT&T over an hour to straighten out the effect it had on my computer. :melodramatic:
 
Re: Unabashed Family Stuff

Ted said:
Yes, good people, there is life after and without CoS.

We welcomed our newest family member a few weeks ago. Here she is, just out of the shoot:

After the page loads, scroll down...

http://www.jessicaswatts.com/blog/2011/09/beautiful-day-personal/

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
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Congratulations Ted!! What a beautiful baby!!

Yes, certainly, there is life after C of S, an entire world out their filled with billions of people, countless life forms and environmental beauty and wonders.

Even so, the C of S experience seems to be a very, very hot button for most of us. No matter how much we discuss various aspects of Hubbard, the "tech" or the workings of the "church", many of us do not get "flat" on the subject. There seems to always be more comments, more debate and more interesting subtopics which still pique one's interest.
Lakey
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Ted,

Great photos of course . . . but what a kid!

The little one is really there, really present and really content and happy in the world. That's a real accomplishment on the part of the parents . . . and perhaps a leading grandparent who helped set the scene earlier :biggrin:

Well done!

Rog
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Jachss99 said:
When is Hatshepsut going to have babies?
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I was the last one I had. I wore me out. :melodramatic:

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