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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

1. Gore never said he did.

2. Gore did write the legislation which created the modern internet out of the old darpanet/arpanet and champion its subsequent passage.

And for those of us who remember the nets back when users were expected to have a measure of technical competence and commercial activity was specifically barred, the spinoff creation of the internet has not been an unalloyed joy. :melodramatic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbYwf1BJgWA

Still, he meant well.


Mark A. Baker

I just meant the Gore question as a joke. It is interesting to find out that he actually did have something to do with it. I know what you mean about commercial activity. Those pop ups which have no "x" anywhere visible to cancel them out are very frustrating. BTW, is it law that there must be a direct way to exit a pop up advertisment?
 
Al Gore

from Wikileaks

Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a "genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible [...] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues."[1] According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had excited Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s."

Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1993. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

24 Jun 1986: Albert Gore introduce S 2594 Supercomputer Network Study Act of 1986

As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill"[5]) after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network[6] submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).[7]
Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and the Gore Bill as a critical moment in Internet history:

A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George H.W Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network [13–14]. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking.

The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII)[9] which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.

Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology"[11] [...] "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."[12]

Mosaic


Plaque commemorating the creation of the Mosaic web browser.
Perhaps one of the most important results of the Gore Bill was the development of Mosaic in 1993.[13][14] This World Wide Web browser is credited by most scholars as beginning the Internet boom of the 1990s:
Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later.'

Vice President and Information Superhighway

As Vice President, Gore promoted the development of what he referred to as the Information Superhighway. This was discussed in detail a few days after winning the election in November 1992 in The New York Times article "Clinton to Promote High Technology, With Gore in Charge."[16] They planned to finance research "that will flood the economy with innovative goods and services, lifting the general level of prosperity and strengthening American industry."[16] Specifically, they were aiming to fund the development of "robotics, smart roads, biotechnology, machine tools, magnetic-levitation trains, fiber-optic communications, and national computer networks. Also earmarked are a raft of basic technologies like digital imaging and data storage."[16] These initiatives were met with some skepticism from critics who claimed that "the initiative is likely to backfire, bloating Congressional pork, and creating whole new categories of Federal waste."[16] These initiatives were outlined in the report Technology for America's Economic Growth.[17] In September 1993, they released a report calling for the creation of a "nationwide information superhighway," which would primarily be built by private industry.[18] Gary Stix commented on these initiatives a few months prior in his May 1993 article for Scientific American, "Gigabit Gestalt: Clinton and Gore embrace an activist technology policy." Stix described them as a "distinct statement about where the new administration stands on the matter of technology [...] Gone is the ambivalence or outright hostility toward government involvement in little beyond basic science. Although Gore is most famous for his political career and environmental work, he is also noted for his creation of the internet."[19] Campbell-Kelly and Aspray further note in Computer: A History of the Information Machine:

In the early 1990s the Internet was big news.... In the fall of 1990, there were just 313,000 computers on the Internet; by 1996, there were close to 10 million. The networking idea became politicized during the 1992 Clinton-Gore election campaign, where the rhetoric of the information highway captured the public imagination. On taking office in 1993, the new administration set in place a range of government initiatives for a National Information Infrastructure aimed at ensuring that all American citizens ultimately gain access to the new networks.

These initiatives were discussed in a number of venues. Howard Rheingold argued in the 1994 afterword to his noted text, The Virtual Community: Homesteading on the Electronic Frontier, that these initiatives played a critical role in the development of digital technology, stating that, "Two powerful forces drove the rapid emergence of the superhighway notion in 1994 [...]. The second driving force behind the superhighway idea continued to be Vice-President Gore."[21] In addition, Clinton and Gore submitted the report, Science in the National Interest in 1994,[22] which further outlined their plans to develop science and technology in the United States. Gore also discussed these plans in speeches that he made at The Superhighway Summit[23] at UCLA and for the International Telecommunications Union.

On January 13, 1994 Gore "became the first U.S. vice president to hold a live interactive news conference on an international computer network".[25] Gore was also asked to write the foreword to the 1993 internet guide, The Internet Companion: A Beginner’s Guide to Global Networking (1st edition) by Tracy LaQuey. In the foreword, he stated the following:

Since I first became interested in high-speed networking almost seventeen years ago, there have been many major advances both in the technology and in public awareness. Articles on high-speed networks are commonplace in major newspapers and in news magazines. In contrast, when as a House member in the early 1980s, I called for creation of a national network of "information superhighways," the only people interested were the manufacturers of optical fiber. Back then, of course, high-speed meant 56,000 bits per second. Today we are building a national information infrastructure that will carry billions of bits of data per second, serve thousands of users simultaneously, and transmit not only electronic mail and data files but voice and video as well.

The Clinton-Gore administration launched the first official White House website on 21 October 1994.[27][28] It would be followed by three more versions, resulting in the final edition launched in 2000.[28][29] The White House website was part of a general movement by this administration towards web-based communication:

"Clinton and Gore were responsible for pressing almost all federal agencies, the U.S. court system, and the U.S. military onto the Internet, thus opening up America's government to more of America's citizens than ever before. On 17 July 1996. President Clinton issued Executive Order 13011 - Federal Information Technology, ordering the heads of all federal agencies to fully utilize information technology to make the information of the agency easily accessible to the public."[30]
The Clipper Chip, which "Clinton inherited from a multi-year National Security Agency effort,"[31] was a method of hardware encryption with a government backdoor. In 1994, Vice President Gore issued a memo on the topic of encryption, which stated that under a new policy the White House would "provide better encryption to individuals and businesses while ensuring that the needs of law enforcement and national security are met. Encryption is a law and order issue, since it can be used by criminals to thwart wiretaps and avoid detection and prosecution."

Another initiative proposed a software-based key escrow system, in which keys to all encrypted data and communications would reside with a trusted third party. Since the government was seen as possibly having a need to access encrypted data originating in other countries, the pressure to establish such a system was worldwide.

These policies met with strong opposition from civil liberty groups[21] such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Privacy Information Center, scientific groups such as the National Research Council,[34] leading cryptographers,[35] and the European Commission.[36] All three encryption initiatives thus failed to gain widespread acceptance by consumers or support from the industry.[37] The ability of a proposal such as the Clipper Chip to meet the stated goals, especially that of enabling better encryption to individuals, was disputed by a number of experts.
With this resistance and lack of industry support, the Clipper Chip and key escrow initiatives were abandoned by 1996.[39]


President Bill Clinton installing computer cables with Vice President Al Gore on NetDay at Ygnacio Valley High School in Concord, CA. March 9, 1996.
Gore had discussed his concerns with computer technology and levels of access in his 1994 article, "No More Information Have and Have Nots." He was particularly interested in implementing measures, which would grant all children access to the Internet, stating:

We've got to get it right. We must make sure that all children have access. We have to make sure that the children of Anacostia have that access, not just Bethesda; Watts, not just Brentwood; Chicago's West Side, not just Evanston. That's not the case now. Twenty-two percent of white primary-school students have computers in their homes; less than 7% of African-American children do. We can't create a nation of information haves and have-nots. The on-ramps to the information superhighway (note that he did not call it the "information superhighway" at this point; that was coined by Time Magazine, not Al Gore) must be accessible to all, and that will only happen if the telecommunications industry is accessible to all.

Gore had a chance to fulfill this promise when he and President Clinton participated in John Gage's NetDay'96 on March 9, 1996. Clinton and Gore spent the day at Ygnacio Valley High School, as part of the drive to connect California public schools to the Internet.[41] In a speech given at YVH, Clinton stated that he was excited to see that his challenge the previous September to "Californians to connect at least 20 percent of your schools to the Information Superhighway by the end of this school year" was met. Clinton also described this event as part of a time of "absolutely astonishing transformation; a moment of great possibility. All of you know that the information and technology explosion will offer to you and to the young people of the future more opportunities and challenges than any generation of Americans has ever seen."[42] In a prepared statement, Gore added that NetDay was part of one of the major goals of the Clinton administration, which was "to give every child in America access to high quality educational technology by the dawn of the new century." Gore also stated that the administration planned "to connect every classroom to the Internet by the year 2000."[43] On April 28, 1998, Gore honored numerous volunteers who had been involved with NetDay and "who helped connect students to the Internet in 700 of the poorest schools in the country" via "an interactive online session with children across the country."

He also reinforced the impact of the Internet on the environment, education, and increased communication between people through his involvement with "the largest one-day online event" for that time, 24 Hours in Cyberspace. The event took place on 8 February 1996, and Second Lady Tipper Gore also participated, acting as one of the event's 150 photographers.[45] Gore contributed the introductory essay to the Earthwatch section of the website,[46] arguing that:
The Internet and other new information technologies cannot turn back the ecological clock, of course. But they can help environmental scientists push back the frontiers of knowledge and help ordinary citizens grasp the urgency of preserving our natural world [...] But more than delivering information to scientists, equipping citizens with new tools to improve their world, and making offices cheaper and more efficient, Cyberspace is achieving something even more enduring and profound: It's changing the very way we think. It is extending our reach, and that is transforming our grasp.

Gore was involved in a number of other projects related to digital technology. He expressed his concerns for online privacy through his 1998 "Electronic Bill of Rights" speech in which he stated: "We need an electronic bill of rights for this electronic age [...] You should have the right to choose whether your personal information is disclosed."[48] He also began promoting a NASA satellite that would provide a constant view of Earth, marking the first time such an image would have been made since The Blue Marble photo from the 1972 Apollo 17 mission. The "Triana" satellite would have been permanently mounted in the L1 Lagrangian Point, 1.5 million km away.[49] Gore also became associated with Digital Earth.

1999 CNN interview

There was talk of a potential run in the 2000 presidential race by Gore as early as January 1998.[51] Gore discussed the possibility of running during a March 9, 1999 interview with CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. In response to Wolf Blitzer's question: "Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley?", Gore responded:

I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.[52]
Former UCLA professor of information studies, Philip E. Agre and journalist Eric Boehlert argued that three articles in Wired News led to the creation of the widely spread urban legend that Gore claimed to have "invented the Internet," which followed this interview.[53][54][55] Jim Wilkinson, who at the time was working as congressman Dick Armey's spokesman, also helped sell the idea that Gore claimed to have "invented the internet."[56][57][58] Computer professionals and congressional colleagues argued against this characterization. Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn stated that "we don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he 'invented' the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet."[54][59] Cerf would also later state: "Al Gore had seen what happened with the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act of 1956, which his father introduced as a military bill. It was very powerful. Housing went up, suburban boom happened, everybody became mobile. Al was attuned to the power of networking much more than any of his elective colleagues. His initiatives led directly to the commercialization of the Internet. So he really does deserve credit."[60]


Al Gore, Newt Gingrich, and President Bill Clinton in 1997.

Former Republican Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich also stated: "In all fairness, it's something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness, Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet, and the truth is -- and I worked with him starting in 1978 when I got [to Congress], we were both part of a "futures group" -- the fact is, in the Clinton administration, the world we had talked about in the '80s began to actually happen."[61] Finally, Wolf Blitzer (who conducted the original 1999 interview) stated in 2008 that: "I didn't ask him about the Internet. I asked him about the differences he had with Bill Bradley [...] Honestly, at the time, when he said it, it didn't dawn on me that this was going to have the impact that it wound up having, because it was distorted to a certain degree and people said they took what he said, which was a carefully phrased comment about taking the initiative and creating the Internet to—I invented the Internet. And that was the sort of shorthand, the way his enemies projected it and it wound up being a devastating setback to him and it hurt him, as I'm sure he acknowledges to this very day."[62]
Gore, himself, would later poke fun at the controversy. In 2000, while on The Late Show with David Letterman he read Letterman's Top 10 List (which for this show was called, "Top Ten Rejected Gore - Lieberman Campaign Slogans") to the audience. Number nine on the list was: "Remember, America, I gave you the Internet, and I can take it away!"[63] A few years later in 2005, when Gore was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award "for three decades of contributions to the Internet" at the Webby Awards[64][65] he joked in his acceptance speech (limited to five words according to Webby Awards rules): "Please don't recount this vote." He was introduced by Vint Cerf who used the same format to joke: "We all invented the Internet." Gore, who was then asked to add a few more words to his speech, stated: "It is time to reinvent the Internet for all of us to make it more robust and much more accessible and use it to reinvigorate our democracy."
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Thanks for posting all that info Carmelo. So, Al Gore does deserve commendation for being an early backer of the "Information Superhighway".

Like LRH once said of his book, "Diantetics was the bolt from the blue!" The internet may be the "biggest bolt from the blue" to ever hit planet Earth. As to being "from the blue", it appears to have been totally unexpected by any of the seers who wrote about the future. This includes LRH and virtually all other science fiction writers. It also includes popular science magazines such as "Popular Science" and "Popular Mechanics" and also all the science "mavens" such as Isaac Azimov and Carl Sagan.

As to being a bolt, as in lighting bolt, it has revolutionized things in industry after industry, one of the latest being the "film camera industry". A company as strong and well managed as Kodak, getting rolled over and essentially leaving the camera business is an excellent example. The Yellow Pages form of advertsing is another good example. Other excellent examples are the Postal Service and the video rental companies such as Blockbuster and Hollywood. What about the giant music stores
which sold music CD's and DVD's? They are pretty much all gone or on their way out.

AND THEN WE HAVE....
Voila! The Church of Scientology!!
C of S was built around deception and secret dealings which were backed up by an intricate structure of "shore stories" designed to provide a phoney but "accceptable" explanation of what C of S was really up to behind the scene.

All of their shore stories and cover ups have been pretty much blown on the internet. At first they were able to do some significant damage control but now the dam is bursting and they are being swept downstream by the avalanche of truth which is coming out against them, continuously. Something new is happening nearly every single day. Thank you Al Gore for the part you played leading to this phenomena!!
Lakey
 
Insults!

To an authoritarian or dullard alike, these comments would likely come across as covert hostility as described by Hubbard. It would take a modicum of intelligence to appreciate the play on words and intent.

When Insults Had Class...

These glorious insults are from an era before modern-day English degenerated into 4-letter expletives.

The exchange between Churchill & Lady Astor:
She said, "If you were my husband I'd poison your tea."
He said, "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."



A member of Parliament to Disraeli: "Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease."

"That depends, Sir," said Disraeli, "whether I embrace your policies or your mistress."


"He had delusions of adequacy." - Walter Kerr


"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." - Winston Churchill


"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." Clarence Darrow


"He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary." - William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway).


"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it." - Moses Hadas


"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain


"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends.." - Oscar Wilde



"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend.... if you have one." - George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill



"Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one." - Winston Churchill, in response.



"I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." - Stephen Bishop



"He is a self-made man and worships his creator." - John Bright



"I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." - Irvin S. Cobb



"He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others." - Samuel Johnson



"He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up." - Paul Keating



"In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily." - Charles, Count Talleyrand



"He loves nature in spite of what it did to him." - Forrest Tucker



"Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?" - Mark Twain



"His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." - Mae West


"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde



"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts...for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)


"He has Van Gogh's ear for music." - Billy Wilder


"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." - Groucho Marx
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Ted, those are all priceless! Oscar Wilde, Churchill and Mark Twain are consistently funny but all of the others are on a par with them or very close to it!

I read a joke in a book about horse racing which reminds me of some of these. It was said for a different reason but its impact is similar.

A big match race is being held between the two top horses of the year. The owners of the two horses encounter one another in the betting line shortly before the race starts.

The first owner makes his bet then waits to chat with the second owner. After the second owner bets, they meet and the first owner says, "My partners and I decided that we could make more money betting everything we have on your horse than if we bet on our own horse; therefore I instructed our jockey to let your horse win." The second owner responds, "Its going to be a very long race then because we came to the same conclusion, bet every thing we have on your horse and instructed our jockey to let your horse win."
Lakey
 
Re: Insults!

To an authoritarian or dullard alike, these comments would likely come across as covert hostility as described by Hubbard. It would take a modicum of intelligence to appreciate the play on words and intent.

When Insults Had Class...

These glorious insults are from an era before modern-day English degenerated into 4-letter expletives.

The exchange between Churchill & Lady Astor:
She said, "If you were my husband I'd poison your tea."
He said, "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."



A member of Parliament to Disraeli: "Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease."

"That depends, Sir," said Disraeli, "whether I embrace your policies or your mistress."


"He had delusions of adequacy." - Walter Kerr


"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." - Winston Churchill


"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." Clarence Darrow


"He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary." - William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway).


"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it." - Moses Hadas


"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain


"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends.." - Oscar Wilde



"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend.... if you have one." - George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill



"Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one." - Winston Churchill, in response.



"I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." - Stephen Bishop



"He is a self-made man and worships his creator." - John Bright



"I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." - Irvin S. Cobb



"He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others." - Samuel Johnson



"He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up." - Paul Keating



"In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily." - Charles, Count Talleyrand



"He loves nature in spite of what it did to him." - Forrest Tucker



"Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?" - Mark Twain



"His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." - Mae West


"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde



"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts...for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)


"He has Van Gogh's ear for music." - Billy Wilder


"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." - Groucho Marx

I have always envied people who could come up with such clever comments....who could play with words. Seems like such a unique talent.
 
Who's Yo Daddy?

Who's yo daddy?

Can't tell whether to laugh or cry.

The following are purported to be actual replies that women in Michigan have written on Child Support Agency Forms in the section for listing 'Father's Details,' or to put it another way: Who's your baby daddy?



1. Regarding the identity of the father of my twins: Makeeshia was fathered by Maclearndon McKinley. I am unsure as to the identity of the father of Marlinda, but I believe that she was conceived on the same night.

2. I am unsure, as to the identity of the father of my child, as I was being sick out of a window when taken unexpectedly from behind. I can provide you with a list of names of men that I think were at the party if this helps.

3. I do not know the name of the father of my little girl. She was conceived at a party at 3600 East Grand Boulevard where I had sex with a man I met that night. I do remember that the sex was so good that I fainted. If you do manage to track down the father, can you please send me his phone number? Thanks. (The runner-up).

4. I don't know the identity of the father of my daughter. He drives a BMW that now has a hole made by my stiletto in one of the door panels. Perhaps you can contact BMW service stations in this area and see if he's had it replaced.

5. I have never had sex with a man. I am still a Virginian. I am awaiting a letter from the Pope confirming that my son's conception was ejaculate and that he is the Saver risen again.

6. I cannot tell you the name of Alleshia's dad, as he informs me that to do so would blow his cover, and that would have cataclysmic implications for the economy. I am torn between doing right by you, and right by the country. Please advise.

7. I do not know who the father of my child was, as they all look the same to me.

8. Tyrone Hairston is the father of child A. If you do catch up with him, can you axe him what he did with my AC/DC CDs? Child B, who was also borned at the same time..... Well, I don't have clue.

9. From the dates, it seems that my daughter was conceived at Disney World. Maybe it really is the Magic Kingdom.

10. So much about that night is a blur. The only thing that I remember for sure is Delia Smith did a program about eggs earlier in the evening. If I had stayed in and watched more TV, rather than going to the party at 8956 Miller Ave., mine might have remained unfertilized.

11. I am unsure as to the identity of the father of my baby. After all, like when you eat a can of beans, you can't be sure which one made you fart. (This made number #1).
 
Re: invisible MBZ

[video=youtube;ZIGzpi9lCck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIGzpi9lCck&feature=player_embedded[/video]


Interesting! I am all for it!

So we shift the carbon footprint to the manufacturing and disposal processes. Works for me.
 
Re: invisible MBZ

[video=youtube;ZIGzpi9lCck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIGzpi9lCck&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Shades of some of the "James Bond" and "Invisible Man" movies. If they put the diodes and camera on a man, that would be awfully interesting. What if such a man tried to crash a party?
Lakey
 
guess who

blog070312_debbie2.jpg


yesterday paparazzi went running to take pictures of Lindsey Lohan (age 25), instead they photographed Debbie Harry of "Blondie" (age 66)

which is who?
 
this is important

for anyone, who has visited the Great Barrier Reef, or, who loves beauty and life on Earth



Dear All,

Please help and sign a message to the UNESCO officials, whether you live downunder or not, the word needs to be spread. After all, we do live on ONE planet...

Thank you,


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: GetUp! <[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: UN investigators arrive in Australia today



How could we let this happen? That’s what UNESCO officials want to find out, as they take the extraordinary step of coming to Australia, arriving today. They're here to investigate how Australian governments have allowed one of our most precious World Heritage areas, the Great Barrier Reef, to be devastated by dredging and dumping to make way for coal and coal seam gas export facilities.

The Australian Government didn't even tell UNESCO that they'd approved the development of massive coal seam gas export facilities on the doorstep to the Reef. UNESCO (The United Nations body charged with designating and protecting World Heritage sites) now has the opportunity to declare the Great Barrier Reef officially 'in danger'. This would be a huge help in preventing the mining industry's expansion around Gladstone and deeply embarrassing for the Australian government.

Starting from today, UNESCO representatives are meeting with scientists, environment groups, state government, fishing and tourism industry representatives, local councils and mining companies, but one group is missing -- the Australian community.

We will personally deliver all messages from GetUp members in a meeting with Fanny Douvere and Tim Badman, from the UNESCO World Heritage Committee mission team, in Cairns next Tuesday morning. It's important that we can show that Australians across the country have a stake in this. Can you take 5 minutes or less to write a brief message to UNESCO asking them to stand firm against the mining industry dredging up and wrecking this priceless world heritage area?

Click here to write your message.

So far more than 75,688 of us have signed the petition to immediately halt dredging millions of cubic metres of seafloor in the Gladstone Harbour, and to stop major coastal developments in the area until a strategic assessment has been completed.

Glenn, a GetUp member from Invernell NSW, wrote in about visiting the reef in 1992: "Not in all my imaginations could I believe there could be anything so colourful, so beautiful or so perfect. Recently (19 years later) we thought we would take our three sons to visit this natural wonder of the world, again returning to Bait Reef. The only way to describe our disappointment is 'horrified'! Apart from a few colourful fish the colour had totally gone. The reef now resembles a rainforest which had been clear felled and burnt."

And it's actually getting worse. Dredging spoils - all the muck that's ripped from the sea floor, including toxins and heavy metals - are being dumped within the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park.[1] Dredging impacts coral and sea life kilometres away, and now the Government is proposing to charge per tonne for companies to dump their spoils into the GBR, legitimising the practice and providing an incentive for the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority to approve this dump. It's madness.

http://www.getup.org.au/save-our-reef

The fragile ecosystem of the Great Barrier Reef reef is already under pressure from climate change, overfishing, pollution and shipping traffic. Now these huge coal seam gas and mining industry export developments along the coast, some within the World Heritage Area, threaten the Reef's very existence.

This overdevelopment and destruction has got to stop. We can't all make it to Cairns or Gladstone to meet with UNESCO - but we can make our voices heard in thousands of personal messages from the nation. Click here to write yours.

Despite the tremendous threats to the Great Barrier Reef, UNESCO officials are currently being lobbied hard by those who insist there's nothing to be concerned about. Let's ensure they don't speak for us.

With hope,
The GetUp team.

[1] 'Disposal of dredge material in the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park', Zoning, Permits and Plans, Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Hmmmm,

The other side of the Great Barrier Reef story is in a Ozzie newspaper.

For the record, Gladstone is at the very bottom of the very large (1,500 km) long Great Barrier Reef Marine Park . . . not "in the middle of it" . . . and a shipping lane can and should take vessels around the bottom of the zone.

This piece by the "greenies" is way one-sided and misleading.

Link to the story:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ier-reef-crusade/story-e6frg8y6-1226292639173
Of course be warned, from my memory this newspaper is a Rupert Murdock owned paper.

UN warned off Great Barrier Reef 'crusade'
• BY:ANNABEL HEPWORTH AND SARAH-JANE TASKER
• From:The Australian
• March 08, 2012 12:00AM

INTERNATIONAL bureaucracies are trying to impose their "crusading cultures" on Australia's economy, claim port operators after demands by the UN's environment arm for new controls on coal and gas port expansions around the Great Barrier Reef.

As industry baulked at demands by the World Heritage commission for tougher environmental controls, declaring them unnecessary, the peak body for marine authorities said that by world standards Australia had some of the most rigorous legislation to preserve natural habitats.

Ports Australia chief executive David Anderson said Australia did not need another level of international bureaucracy "to tell us how to manage our own backyard and to bring their crusading cultures to our economy".

Mining magnate Clive Palmer backed the concern, accusing the UN mission of being too heavily influenced by "international environment groups which are dominated by Europe".

Mr Palmer said that, since the 1980s dispute over whether the Franklin Dam should be built in Tasmania, Australia had been "at the forefront of environmental reforms from a greenies' point of view".

He said environmental approvals processes were already onerous and it took four to five years to get approvals for projects.

Referring to UNESCO being based in Paris, Mr Palmer said that Australians could rely on people such as Greens leader Bob Brown and groups such as the Australian Conservation Foundation to hold industry accountable.

"What (the UN is) really saying is what (Australian conservationists) are doing is not good enough," Mr Palmer said. "I think most Australians would agree with me: that's not true."

The UN mission has proposed that developers would be forced to accept new "precautionary" environmental rules or reapply for project approvals after a strategic review into the threat of port expansions in the Great Barrier Reef has been conducted. The concerns relate to expansions in Queensland coal ports that could lead to a fivefold increase in exports and shipping numbers.

The mission will visit the reef and proposed development sites, including at Gladstone's harbour, Mackay, Bowen, Townsville and Cairns.

Australian Coal Association chief Nikki Williams said the coal industry was regulated on all mine and infrastructure proposals and subject to both state and commonwealth processes.

"In the case of Abbot Point (25km north of Bowen), the industry is going well beyond normal assessment information through its wide ranging cumulative environmental impact assessment," Ms Williams said. "It includes a reefwide study on shipping."

The cumulative impact statement was being undertaken in consultation with the Department of Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population and Communities and the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority and would be presented to the UNESCO mission members during their visit.

A spokesperson from Santos's Gladstone liquefied natural gas project said the operation would ensure that UNESCO "has a good understanding of the strict environmental controls for our project and that our activities do not include any form of mining in World Heritage areas".
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

. . . and a shipping lane can and should take vessels around the bottom of the zone. ...

You'ld be amazed at what happens on ships. :omg:


... This piece by the "greenies" is way one-sided and misleading. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco


... Link to the story:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ier-reef-crusade/story-e6frg8y6-1226292639173
Of course be warned, from my memory this newspaper is a Rupert Murdock owned paper.

You mean that guy whose lawyers have argued his media outlets are in no way required to report the news truthfully?

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Of course that was here in the benighted u.s., where money talks is widely perceived as the national religion. Hmmm .... :)



Mark A. Baker :whistling:
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

You'ld be amazed at what happens on ships. :omg:

You mean that guy whose lawyers have argued his media outlets are in no way required to report the news truthfully?

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Of course that was here in the benighted u.s., where money talks is widely perceived as the national religion. Hmmm .... :)



Mark A. Baker :whistling:

As Bob Dylan points out "...money doesn't talk, it swears..."

Jack
 
Dylan and my younger days 1965

As Bob Dylan points out "...money doesn't talk, it swears..."

Jack


obscenity, who really cares?

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I was 14, when this came out (Dylan going electric with "Subterranean Homesick Blues"). At our 9th grade jr. high promotion dance at Edwin Markham Junior High in San Jose, CA (remember "Man With A Hoe"? --- I don't mean Charlie Sheen!), my friends and I took charge of the DJ-ing, and we played Dylan.

You knew it was us. We had the long hair, the black turtle necks, the patchouli oil, the peace pins, and the philosophy and sci fi books, plus which we weren't adverse to wine, french bread, and salami for lunch on the playground. . . . and maybe some herbal "tea" (smoked, not imbibed).

After the prom, we had a little party at one of the girls' houses, 3 guys, 4 girls, making out, musical chairs style. Those were the days.

[video=youtube;-9JOmU2jFUo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9JOmU2jFUo[/video]

My girl friend from that time, Nancy, is still my friend. She lives in Seattle, Hawaii, and France, cooks haute cuisine, and is terribly smart. Her daughter works at a start-up here in Silicon Valley, so I get to see both of them pretty often.
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I used to listen to my Dylan albums at age 15 and then go to the theater where it was all quiet and dark just before the afternoon matinee'. I 'd bring my notebook and write my adolescent poetry there..... regarded as being so deeeeeep.:unsure:

'In this desert land of soft and golden crystal sands
Where majesties of mountains grand
On my heated soul their coolness fans


.........SNIPPED.......

I grasp the traces left by me
And slumber to eternity
Where seas of sand and sands of seas
Sublime me in ubiguiity
::bigcry:
.....

Hillarious that I still remember some words.


Oh....'nother one:dieslaughing:

A dead racoon lies side of the road
His tangled body more rigid than cold
yadda yadda :nervous:

THOSE WERE THE DAYS!

And THEN came the sad yrs colored by the war where all the songs reeked of melancholia.

[video=youtube;jE_NkheE5i8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jE_NkheE5i8[/video]

[video=youtube;59BZxgohr9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=59BZxgohr9g[/video]
 
Why I Owe My Mother

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1. My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE .
"If you're going to kill each other, do it outside. I just finished cleaning."

2. My mother taught me RELIGION.
"You better pray that will come out of the carpet."

3. My mother taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!"

4. My mother taught me LOGIC.
"Because I said so, that's why."

5. My mother taught me MORE LOGIC.
"If you fall out of that swing and break your neck, you're not going to the store with me."

6. My mother taught me FORESIGHT.
"Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case you're in an accident."

7. My mother taught me IRONY.
"Keep crying, and I'll give you something to cry about."

8. My mother taught me about the science of OSMOSIS.
"Shut your mouth and eat your supper."

9. My mother taught me about CONTORTION-ISM.
"Will you look at that dirt on the back of your neck!"

10. My mother taught me about STAMINA.
"You'll sit there until all that spinach is gone."

11. My mother taught me about WEATHER.
"This room of yours looks as if a tornado went through it."

12. My mother taught me about HYPOCRISY.
"If I told you once, I've told you a million times. Don't exaggerate!"

13. My mother taught me the CIRCLE OF LIFE.
"I brought you into this world, and I can take you out."

14. My mother taught me about BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION.
"Stop acting like your father!"

15. My mother taught me about ENVY.
"There are millions of less fortunate children in this world who don't have wonderful parents like you do."

16. My mother taught me about ANTICIPATION.
"Just wait until we get home."

17. My mother taught me about RECEIVING.
"You are going to get it when you get home!"

18. My mother taught me MEDICAL SCIENCE.
"If you don't stop crossing your eyes, they are going to get stuck that way."

19. My mother taught me ESP.
"Put your sweater on; don't you think I know when you are cold?"

20. My mother taught me HUMOR.
"When that lawn mower cuts off your toes, don't come running to me."

21. My mother taught me HOW TO BECOME AN ADULT .
"If you don't eat your vegetables, you'll never grow up."

22. My mother taught me GENETICS.
"You're just like your father."

23. My mother taught me about my ROOTS.
"Shut that door behind you. Do you think you were born in a barn?"

24. My mother taught me WISDOM.
"When you get to be my age, you'll understand."

And my favorite:



25. My mother taught me about JUSTICE.
"One day you'll have kids, and I hope they turn out just like you!"

Only you folks my age understand these profound statements.
But, there is one missing from this list~~My personal all time favorite!

My mother taught me about CHOICE.
"Do you want me to stop this car?"
 
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