Antony A Phillips
Commoner
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
"A rud" ? Are we auditing a group?
" to get his death details out in the open"
Before the Pilot's identity was revealed to the "Church" by his wife, he contacted me and some others and a fairly lively amount of communication was exchanged.
He caved in heavily (I think in about 2000) and the correspondence thereafter was chiefly concerned with his (partially successful) attempt to find out so to speak "what the hell was going on".
His death details would include much of that. That is a lot of material, some of which would need a trained auditor to evaluate.
When he died I got an e-mail from his girlfriend. I was in Denmark. I was getting phone auditing from Ed, told him of it, and Ed then did a gargantuan job of going down to LA, and handling the mess which he told you he found. Not least, Louise owes him an enormous amount for that heroic action, she might have ended on the streets otherwise, and really the whole of free Scientology owes him a lot for handling these things which the Pilot left behind. However, Ed and I never talked about what I know of the Pilot, and really he does not have much idea of "his death details".
From the knowledge I have my opinion is that what Ken found out with regard to SDH (Sex Drug Hypnosis) which Helen, who was one of those on this private group of Ken's, mentioned, is correct. That is my opinion, I did not say belief, and it is certainly not a certainty.
Writing on this forum, which I understand is open to anyone to look at, details of Ken's finances seems to me somewhat foolish. I do not know if the "Church" still has a home page up defiling Ken, but if they do, they have been given a basinful more of truths to put on that page.
"Otherwise many others think the Co$ caused his death as an OSA Op. That instills fear in them."
I have the opinion that the "Church" did indirectly cause his death. That is no reason for any one reading this forum to be fearful of speaking out. Ken spoke out very loudly and was a big thorn in the "Churches" flesh. They went (opinion) to extreme lengths. And Ken was foolish. I understand that he fairly often went to diskoteks alone, in search of sex. In his position that was foolish. In the turmoil at the entrance to a diskotek, someone could put a drug in a drink, which would knock him out. What staff that were there would initially be a bit nonplussed, but two people came along, assuring the staff that they were friends of the nearly unconscious Ken, that Ken suffered these attacks and they knew just how to handle it, and hustle him away to a previously hired motel room. That is abduction, and in any civilised country that is a crime. You do not take that sort of action, and risk criminal proceedings and a lot of bad publicity, unless the stakes are very high.
The private correspondence with Ken showed that he was driven very deeply into apathy. I consider him a very brave man to try and sort it all out with solo auditing, in that state of apathy. But in that state of apathy one is not wise. He did foolish things. He had this (to me) peculiar idea that sex would some how help him. He made a foolish decision to try and handle the symptoms of stomach ulcer with auditing. But he did not succumb. He struggled. And like every other Ex-Church Scientologist (perhaps except you the reader) and really like many other humans he tried to paint to others a rosier picture than was really there. And his suicide was an example of that - making it look like the "Church" had killed him.
When they have a big problem, the "Church" is very clever. They have amassed of 60 years "freeing" people, giving them a knowledge of how to trap people. They can also apply it on the correct gradient. They knew from his case folder Ken's attitude to sex, and suicide. They used it on him. But they don't bother with small fry. (I would like to indicate that I have invalidated you :-( )
So all the details leading up to his death, are not really necessary for readers here and practically impossible to give. But if I have left you with a big mystery, let me know and I'll try and sort it out, write to [email protected], or send a message to me via this board, or ask on this thread - though I do not look here very regularly, and will be away next week.
Looking back, I can see I should have told Ed of my correspondence with Ken. He knows nothing of what I tell you here. But hindsight is a fat lot of use
All best wishes, Ant(ony)
"A rud" ? Are we auditing a group?
" to get his death details out in the open"
Before the Pilot's identity was revealed to the "Church" by his wife, he contacted me and some others and a fairly lively amount of communication was exchanged.
He caved in heavily (I think in about 2000) and the correspondence thereafter was chiefly concerned with his (partially successful) attempt to find out so to speak "what the hell was going on".
His death details would include much of that. That is a lot of material, some of which would need a trained auditor to evaluate.
When he died I got an e-mail from his girlfriend. I was in Denmark. I was getting phone auditing from Ed, told him of it, and Ed then did a gargantuan job of going down to LA, and handling the mess which he told you he found. Not least, Louise owes him an enormous amount for that heroic action, she might have ended on the streets otherwise, and really the whole of free Scientology owes him a lot for handling these things which the Pilot left behind. However, Ed and I never talked about what I know of the Pilot, and really he does not have much idea of "his death details".
From the knowledge I have my opinion is that what Ken found out with regard to SDH (Sex Drug Hypnosis) which Helen, who was one of those on this private group of Ken's, mentioned, is correct. That is my opinion, I did not say belief, and it is certainly not a certainty.
Writing on this forum, which I understand is open to anyone to look at, details of Ken's finances seems to me somewhat foolish. I do not know if the "Church" still has a home page up defiling Ken, but if they do, they have been given a basinful more of truths to put on that page.
"Otherwise many others think the Co$ caused his death as an OSA Op. That instills fear in them."
I have the opinion that the "Church" did indirectly cause his death. That is no reason for any one reading this forum to be fearful of speaking out. Ken spoke out very loudly and was a big thorn in the "Churches" flesh. They went (opinion) to extreme lengths. And Ken was foolish. I understand that he fairly often went to diskoteks alone, in search of sex. In his position that was foolish. In the turmoil at the entrance to a diskotek, someone could put a drug in a drink, which would knock him out. What staff that were there would initially be a bit nonplussed, but two people came along, assuring the staff that they were friends of the nearly unconscious Ken, that Ken suffered these attacks and they knew just how to handle it, and hustle him away to a previously hired motel room. That is abduction, and in any civilised country that is a crime. You do not take that sort of action, and risk criminal proceedings and a lot of bad publicity, unless the stakes are very high.
The private correspondence with Ken showed that he was driven very deeply into apathy. I consider him a very brave man to try and sort it all out with solo auditing, in that state of apathy. But in that state of apathy one is not wise. He did foolish things. He had this (to me) peculiar idea that sex would some how help him. He made a foolish decision to try and handle the symptoms of stomach ulcer with auditing. But he did not succumb. He struggled. And like every other Ex-Church Scientologist (perhaps except you the reader) and really like many other humans he tried to paint to others a rosier picture than was really there. And his suicide was an example of that - making it look like the "Church" had killed him.
When they have a big problem, the "Church" is very clever. They have amassed of 60 years "freeing" people, giving them a knowledge of how to trap people. They can also apply it on the correct gradient. They knew from his case folder Ken's attitude to sex, and suicide. They used it on him. But they don't bother with small fry. (I would like to indicate that I have invalidated you :-( )
So all the details leading up to his death, are not really necessary for readers here and practically impossible to give. But if I have left you with a big mystery, let me know and I'll try and sort it out, write to [email protected], or send a message to me via this board, or ask on this thread - though I do not look here very regularly, and will be away next week.
Looking back, I can see I should have told Ed of my correspondence with Ken. He knows nothing of what I tell you here. But hindsight is a fat lot of use
All best wishes, Ant(ony)
