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guanoloco

As-Wased
I noticed early on how people will play with their own perceptions and beliefs to maintain some charade of belief. She was doing so in this case. She couldn't just LOOK at what was in front of her, because it upset her BELIEFS. THAT is common for Scientologists. Thinking (acceptance of beliefs) prevents and disables looking (honest observations). It sure does in Scientology where the accepted ideas (Scientology dogma) greatly diminish and disable honest perception of a great many things.

Aaaaah, yes! I have come to call this "expedience over truth". That being said it has to be germane to everyone, sciono or non, because it's rampant everywhere and here on ESMB as well.

I try to discern this in my own thoughts/beliefs and cut it out like the cancer it is. Hopefully I'm successful more times than not.

The Sec Check included questions like, "who else did you tell about this", "who told you this", "where did YOU get this idea from", etc. I told them - DUH, it is my OWN idea, nobody told me anything, I just open my eyes and LOOK (and make the mistake of actually truthfully voicing what I see)! Dumb-asses! THAT sort of nonsense was just so annoyingly COMMON in the world of the Church of Scientology. I always asked myself, "how can or will these morons EVER clear the planet when they waste so MUCH F*CK**G time on such STUPID shit?" Of course, the answer is NEVER.

Again, so true. I think this shows just how little Hubbard actually thought of others. You see, people are just a bundle of circuits, dub-in of a dub-in of a dub-in, etc. A stimulus-response conglomerate being, more or less a straight-jacketed blind mob milling around in the dark, way out of PT and dramming - isn't there some crap that many terminals aren't even headed by a thetan or something; therefore, there's no way you're capable of an independent observation or thought and, since someone was assigned to cleverly and behind the scenes rubber stamp the sig and since we're all so cow-stupid to never figure out the obvious, well, then, someone HAD to tell you. This crap has been run on me too many times to count.

Quite ironic that all the SP diatribes talk about how stupid SPs are and yet, Scn/Scntogists and Hubbard consistently make this stupid assumption about people, etc.

WOOT!
 
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guanoloco

As-Wased
What would transparent Scientology be like?

The sacred tenets/Clear & OT levels materials and EP's (end Phenomena's),
in public domain (they already are),

The confidential processes/auditing procedures,

The Sea Org only issues,

The OSA directives and actions, etc.

All of it. Transparent.

Stat,

Here's an interesting article from another thread here on ESMB and from here.

With reference to my previous article titled “A radical new view of the upper Scientology levels”, and with the recent “cat-out-of-the-bag” in a comment section of this blog, I have decided to drop the bomb.

I could have made this a short story or included anecdotes and fluff in order to make it all more interesting. Instead I go for the straight-to-the-point-approach for the sake of brevity, letting your comments do the rest.

If the theory behind the OT levels as laid out by LRH is true, then we would have a large number of beings turning up for auditing that were ready to run a very different process than the ordinary Bridge (as covered in OT VI material). But we do not see that. Except for some loose rumors, not one single being has been verified as having showed up out of the estimated more than 200 million. This is a discrepancy like no other.

I am often very conscious when I dream, and I find myself creating scenery and people in order to create a game when I sleep. I create people that I then let run on their own, and from that point on, they are uncontrollable by me in order to make the game real.

The reactive mind is a collection of stuck viewpoints (engrams) that remain outside of a person’s control until inspected thoroughly. What if there were old, forgotten analytical viewpoints similar to the people of my dreams? Viewpoints that I created and that I no longer take responsibility for and when I through auditing do take responsibility for them, I would conclude that the one creating them was “ME”.

If the above is the actuality, then one could dispense with all the confidentiality or sci-fi and treat the Bridge as a continuous handling of reactive and analytical viewpoints in order for the person to “collect himself” and “become whole”. The processes would be just the same, but the whole perspective would be dramatically different. It would make the whole Bridge less mystical or intriguing, less controversial or sexy. But it would also make the whole Bridge an exercise in 100% Responsibility.

Is this kind of what you were thinking along the lines of?
 

Mixxed Up

Patron
Wow...it's great to hear I'm not the only one who felt this way...My first shocking eye-opener was when an OT 7 was trying to handle me on a medical issue, I had a canker sore and he looked it up on the internet and tried to say I had herpes...HE HAD MAJOR MU'S! He told me I was endangering my staff-member boyfriend! What kind of OT is that????
 

uniquemand

Unbeliever
Wow...it's great to hear I'm not the only one who felt this way...My first shocking eye-opener was when an OT 7 was trying to handle me on a medical issue, I had a canker sore and he looked it up on the internet and tried to say I had herpes...HE HAD MAJOR MU'S! He told me I was endangering my staff-member boyfriend! What kind of OT is that????

The common kind. Other-determined knowledge isn't for them. If they don't make the idea up, they figure they're PTS to it.
 

Mixxed Up

Patron
The common kind. Other-determined knowledge isn't for them. If they don't make the idea up, they figure they're PTS to it.

It was unbelievable...after that I started looking around and discovered that none of the Clears and OT's I knew had any of the love and kindness described in the way to happiness...and that I didn't want to be like them at all. Not to mention that it was disconcerting in the extreme that they didn't practice tech as basic as TWTH. My logic was, if they're not using that, what ELSE aren't they doing that they should?
 

uniquemand

Unbeliever
It was unbelievable...after that I started looking around and discovered that none of the Clears and OT's I knew had any of the love and kindness described in the way to happiness...and that I didn't want to be like them at all. Not to mention that it was disconcerting in the extreme that they didn't practice tech as basic as TWTH. My logic was, if they're not using that, what ELSE aren't they doing that they should?

This is why you're not allowed to talk about this stuff! No discussion of case! ILLEGAL!
 

Gadfly

Crusader
This is why you're not allowed to talk about this stuff! No discussion of case! ILLEGAL!

Bingo! :thumbsup:

If Scientologists were ever allowed to discuss things they would quickly notice the MANY contradictions between Hubbard's claims, assertions, and statements with ACTUAL OBSERVABLE REALITY!
 
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Mixxed Up

Patron
It was upsetting that truth and honesty were touted in the HCOB's but then in practice the story was exactly the opposite. I got to the point where I couldn't make myself go bookselling anymore because my conscience couldn't allow me to reel unwitting innocents into the trap...and I couldn't explain to anyone why I didn't want to sell books-especially since I had been pretty good at it.
 

Student of Trinity

Silver Meritorious Patron
The common kind [of OT]. Other-determined knowledge isn't for them. If they don't make the idea up, they figure they're PTS to it.

I just remembered that "otiose" is actually a word. I only really remembered that it was a moderately pejorative adjective, though, so I looked it up. Turns out it means "serving no practical purpose".
 

Stat

Gold Meritorious Patron
This was very educational.
And very much transparent, unlike $cientology.
You guys rock! :)
 
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