Video About Scientology Features 6-month Free Membership in IAS - January 2014

[JBWriter]

A new video on YouTube from "Lavendar&Fritz" entitled, "Scientology 101: Not As Great As Tom Cruise Says It Is".

The two women shown on screen are satirists, but what caught my eye was the membership card seen @ the 30 second mark on this video.

"Free 6 months Membership" in IAS?
Really?

[video=youtube;gDqI8de6Iig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqI8de6Iig[/video]

JB

 

[The Sloth]

The Free Six month IAS membership has been there since the inception. If you had a new person on intro lines that wanted to sign up for the course, the last thing you would want is ANOTHER reg cycle for membership, so they got 6 months free. Kinda like Netflix, and these other retailers that offer new customers "free" loyalty cards, and then up sell for better "benefits".

 

[sallydannce]

Yep, newbies get a 6 mth free membership. It gives a bit space to soften the person up for the real stuff. Sort of like a pseudo act of benevolence to lull the person into a false sense of security in readiness for the hard-hitting regging (sales interview). And trust me, no one has experienced hard-hitting sales pitches until they've experienced scientology registration.

 

[JBWriter]

Thanks, SallyDannce & TheSloth

It wasn't clear to me before now that the 6-month freebie membership in IAS existed.

I'll assume a 'new IAS member stat' exists within Co$ that counts memberships such as these which accounts for the 'continuous leaps-and-bounds growth' of Co$/IAS.

Thanks for setting me straight, folks!

JB (Feeling foolish for having started a new thread. Duh and sorry, all.)

 

[The Sloth]

One other thing (and this, to me, is a MAJOR misconception about the "Xenu" story). The bodies were NOT transported to earth. The BEINGS (thetans) were forcibly exteriorized from the bodies, and then frozen, and then transported, and then "blown up in volcanoes.) It was the frozen beings that were transported to earth. (How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? Early depictions of the Christian hell were of both fire and ice (http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012714.html).

I well remember witnessing several "IAS Reg cycles" where people were "briefed" on the IAS, where they were told that evil psychs in the US were experimenting with exteriorizing people. getting them to describe exactly where they were located while exterior, and then being hit with frozen glycol and thereby "trapped". Different people had different reactions to this reg tactic, but those close to or on "the OT Levels" tended to "have more reality" and donate larger amounts.

So if you are going to mock the story, at least get it "right".

 

[Anonycat]

One other thing (and this, to me, is a MAJOR misconception about the "Xenu" story). The bodies were NOT transported to earth. The BEINGS (thetans) were forcibly exteriorized from the bodies, and then frozen, and then transported, and then "blown up in volcanoes.) It was the frozen beings that were transported to earth. (How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? Early depictions of the Christian hell were of both fire and ice (http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012714.html).

I well remember witnessing several "IAS Reg cycles" where people were "briefed" on the IAS, where they were told that evil psychs in the US were experimenting with exteriorizing people. getting them to describe exactly where they were located while exterior, and then being hit with frozen glycol and thereby "trapped". Different people had different reactions to this reg tactic, but those close to or on "the OT Levels" tended to "have more reality" and donate larger amounts.

So if you are going to mock the story, at least get it "right".

I have heard that take on Xenu! I read it as: Xenu had them injected with the alcohol and glycol mixture to keep the souls from leaving the bodies. Then the bodies were blown up, then the souls were caught by magnetic ribbons (collected), and then took to the theaters for the brainwashing/disinformation month.

Besides, if you're going to do that to billions of souls, why all the fuss? Skip the trip, skip the bombs and volcanoes, just collect the souls with the magnetic ribbons and stuff them in a theater close to home.

 

[The Sloth]

I have heard that take on Xenu! I read it as: Xenu had them injected with the alcohol and glycol mixture to keep the souls from leaving the bodies. Then the bodies were blown up, then the souls were caught by magnetic ribbons (collected), and then took to the theaters for the brainwashing/disinformation month.

Besides, if you're going to do that to billions of souls, why all the fuss? Skip the trip, skip the bombs and volcanoes, just collect the souls with the magnetic ribbons and stuff them in a theater close to home.

Well, if you are trying to solve "overpopulation", the last thing you want is a bunch of religiously insane dis-embodied beings hanging around your home planets. You take them way out to the edge of the galaxy and cluster them there, with no direction home. Let em blow themselves up, over and over.

 

[MissWog]

JB,
I think this thread is awesome! And so much potential! Perfect thread for a curious person to stumble on and get the real info on $cn

so then after these souls were dropped in the volcanoes they floated around earth until cavemen bodies became available to attach too, correct? And that is how these souls became Body Thetans by attaching to the souls and bodies of cavemen?

 

[Random guy]

Well, if you are trying to solve "overpopulation", the last thing you want is a bunch of religiously insane dis-embodied beings hanging around your home planets. You take them way out to the edge of the galaxy and cluster them there, with no direction home. Let em blow themselves up, over and over.

Considering the story is bonkers from the outset, I suppose it doesn't matter, but:

If the being/soul/tethan/thingy can, as Hubbard claimed, happily orbit a star in outer space, why bother with the hydrogen bomb in the first place? Or volcanoes for that matter? A star is a continuously exploding hydrogen bomb anyway, so the thingies shouldn't be bothered by such lowly MESTy phenomena.

 

[JustSheila]

But if a thetan has no wavelength, no mass and exists outside of time, what kind of tape could they use?

In what universe was the magnetic tape ribbon? Why would a thetan be subject to magnetism? How did they get the ribbon from no universe to a real one where it exists in time?



That really stumped me. I blew OT3 after the theory for a really long time because, well - the tape. It just made everything Hubbard said about Scientology and thetans being spiritual beings completely stupid.

I mean, what kind of tape is superior to a thetan? Who made the tape? I don't get it. I never did.

Did L Ron have such a huge non-comprehension of how film or voice is recorded that he thought it was science fiction?

At the end of it, I thought L Ron was off his rocker or stoned or something, because OT3 was some piss poor science fiction writing - even Superman comics had better explanations. L Ron had done better - I thought he'd gone mental, I really did.

And I left SO and Scn soon after that, too.

 

[programmer_guy]

But if a thetan has no wavelength, no mass and exists outside of time, what kind of tape could they use?

In what universe was the magnetic tape ribbon? Why would a thetan be subject to magnetism? How did they get the ribbon from no universe to a real one where it exists in time?



That really stumped me. I blew OT3 after the theory for a really long time because, well - the tape. It just made everything Hubbard said about Scientology and thetans being spiritual beings completely stupid.

I mean, what kind of tape is superior to a thetan? Who made the tape? I don't get it. I never did.

Did L Ron have such a huge non-comprehension of how film or voice is recorded that he thought it was science fiction?

At the end of it, I thought L Ron was off his rocker or stoned or something, because OT3 was some piss poor science fiction writing - even Superman comics had better explanations. L Ron had done better - I thought he'd gone mental, I really did.

And I left SO and Scn soon after that, too.

According to Scientology (i.e. Hubbard), this is due to agreement on what is reality and what can affect you (OT crap).
Have you ever listened to the PDC lectures?

 

[The Sloth]

But if a thetan has no wavelength, no mass and exists outside of time, what kind of tape could they use?

In what universe was the magnetic tape ribbon? Why would a thetan be subject to magnetism? How did they get the ribbon from no universe to a real one where it exists in time?



That really stumped me. I blew OT3 after the theory for a really long time because, well - the tape. It just made everything Hubbard said about Scientology and thetans being spiritual beings completely stupid.

I mean, what kind of tape is superior to a thetan? Who made the tape? I don't get it. I never did.

Did L Ron have such a huge non-comprehension of how film or voice is recorded that he thought it was science fiction?

At the end of it, I thought L Ron was off his rocker or stoned or something, because OT3 was some piss poor science fiction writing - even Superman comics had better explanations. L Ron had done better - I thought he'd gone mental, I really did.

And I left SO and Scn soon after that, too.

Yes, its a mess. Another propitiative appeal for sympathy from "Mankind's Greatest Friend". His "science" was dodgy from the start. There are early tapes concerning "hidden influences" where the gravitic influences of the moon, venus, jupiter, etc on "thetans" are described. Total face palm material.

The mental gymnastics go something like this:
1. A life static has no mass, wavelength, location in space or time, etc.
2. A thetan in a location is less than theta itself, but greater than "thetan + body".
3. To have a game a being must grant "other-determinism" to part of his environment. The 6th dynamic is commonly selected as an area of randomity.
4. The "electronic ribbon" was just a force screen type of affair, kinda like the "invisible fences" you can put on your property to keep your critters in.

Also, from earlier material, beings entered the physical universe at different times, and thus some have more "track" than others. The real weirdness (to me) is the idea that every being in this universe passed through the same initiative hazing ritual described as "Incident One". I have not found that to be true.


He had gone mental. Listening to the unexpurgated Class VIII tapes shows someone with tenuous "mental\emotional" state. One of the first solo auditor processes (in the R6EW era) was one question: "What am I dramatizing?" If you look at what LRH was dramatizing through this period, you see the eerie parallels between his mental construct and what he was manifesting in the physical universe.
Well done on your perception.

Some oldies but goodies:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...Class-8-course&p=111030&viewfull=1#post111030

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...Class-8-course&p=111141&viewfull=1#post111141

 

[Anonycat]

Well, if you are trying to solve "overpopulation", the last thing you want is a bunch of religiously insane dis-embodied beings hanging around your home planets. You take them way out to the edge of the galaxy and cluster them there, with no direction home. Let em blow themselves up, over and over.

No, if you're trying to solve overpopulation, you introduce birth control, and educate people. Come to think of it, the Sea Org could have used the same. Anyway ... if the issue was simply over population, they could have simply killed everyone, as you suggest the story goes, and leave it at that. Too stupid to figure out birth control, but not too lazy to kill - that sounds like a much easier solution. The sci-fi is all Hubbard knew, and so there it is. A silly bit of crappy sci-fi.

 

[Anonycat]

But if a thetan has no wavelength, no mass and exists outside of time, what kind of tape could they use?

In what universe was the magnetic tape ribbon? Why would a thetan be subject to magnetism? How did they get the ribbon from no universe to a real one where it exists in time?



That really stumped me. I blew OT3 after the theory for a really long time because, well - the tape. It just made everything Hubbard said about Scientology and thetans being spiritual beings completely stupid.

I mean, what kind of tape is superior to a thetan? Who made the tape? I don't get it. I never did.

Did L Ron have such a huge non-comprehension of how film or voice is recorded that he thought it was science fiction?

At the end of it, I thought L Ron was off his rocker or stoned or something, because OT3 was some piss poor science fiction writing - even Superman comics had better explanations. L Ron had done better - I thought he'd gone mental, I really did.

And I left SO and Scn soon after that, too.

A thetan does have mass - Hubbard said it was measurable. Yes, if you put a dying person on a scale, the weight goes down when the soul leaves. I think he said it was ~3 ounces.

Yes, it's some very crazy writing. Just the fact that he presented it, shows how insane he was. Since then, people have had fun picking apart the ridiculousness of it all. If Hubbard was a time-traveling wizard, why not bring back the schematic for a spaceship, an eternal magnetic (of course) force field, like the one that holds Xenu to this day. Wait, doesn't Xenu eat? Do those creatures of that planet live forever? Bad sci-fi! Bad!

Why not build a magnetic ribbon soul-catcher, and forget about about building scientology - just catch yourself billions of souls and make your own rehab theater. Clearing the planet in a year is a breeze. In one generation, a certainty. And no one would even have to know! Oh, horrible sci-fi.

 

[Anonycat]

Yes, its a mess. Another propitiative appeal for sympathy from "Mankind's Greatest Friend". His "science" was dodgy from the start. There are early tapes concerning "hidden influences" where the gravitic influences of the moon, venus, jupiter, etc on "thetans" are described. Total face palm material.

The mental gymnastics go something like this:
1. A life static has no mass, wavelength, location in space or time, etc.
2. A thetan in a location is less than theta itself, but greater than "thetan + body".
3. To have a game a being must grant "other-determinism" to part of his environment. The 6th dynamic is commonly selected as an area of randomity.
4. The "electronic ribbon" was just a force screen type of affair, kinda like the "invisible fences" you can put on your property to keep your critters in.

Also, from earlier material, beings entered the physical universe at different times, and thus some have more "track" than others. The real weirdness (to me) is the idea that every being in this universe passed through the same initiative hazing ritual described as "Incident One". I have not found that to be true.


He had gone mental. Listening to the unexpurgated Class VIII tapes shows someone with tenuous "mental\emotional" state. One of the first solo auditor processes (in the R6EW era) was one question: "What am I dramatizing?" If you look at what LRH was dramatizing through this period, you see the eerie parallels between his mental construct and what he was manifesting in the physical universe.
Well done on your perception.

Some oldies but goodies:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...Class-8-course&p=111030&viewfull=1#post111030

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...Class-8-course&p=111141&viewfull=1#post111141

You know that incident one, was Ron totally wasted on pills/drugs and watching a religious ceremony (precession) with a bang (fireworks), a cherub, the darkness ... and that's where it came from. Anyone who feels they have experienced it, should seek cult deprogramming, and treat themselves to a vacation to watch the ceremony. That should solve incident one.

 

[Terril park]

But if a thetan has no wavelength, no mass and exists outside of time, what kind of tape could they use?

In what universe was the magnetic tape ribbon? Why would a thetan be subject to magnetism? How did they get the ribbon from no universe to a real one where it exists in time?

From the same store that one gets glycol that can freeze thetans.

 

[NonScio]

I'm not sure exactly when El Ron came up with the OT3 story; but my guess would be the early 50's. About the time of the introduction of
consumer magnetic (reel to reel) tape recorders...i.e. "magnetized ribbons" which could record and play back sound. EL Ron, it seems, was
one of the first customers for this electronic marvel. We can imagine him, microphone in hand, like a tall tale teller of old, spinning his yarn
as he watched those little wheels going round and round winding his wisdom onto those plastic spools. Isn't ethanol glycol, or something similar,
an ingredient of plastic?

Magnetic electronic ribbons...implanted with the master's voice. Ah! The muses play so many keys of inspiration!