What would your ideal Freezone Convention include?

[asteroid]

Will there be any Loyal Officers in attendance?

By Rey's definition... probably.

Keep in mind that one attribute of the freezone is that we do not necessarily agree with one another. Some people in the Indy field I find... odd. Or at least I don't see things the way they do. That's okay, because to a segment of the community I absolutely am a squirrel, as I don't follow KSW to the letter. So Rey may have some ideas I disagree with. Surely he would be surprised by some of mine. Some of my KSW friends would think, "Is she _nuts_?!" ...and it doesn't keep us from having a good time for a weekend.

But honestly that makes me appreciate it more. One thing I left behind in the C of S is the perception that we all have to believe or behave in one particular way. I cherish our ability to disagree, and our freedom to do so, and most especially the fact that we respect each other even when we have really different viewpoints.

After all, we don't learn anything if we only listen to those with whom we already agree.

 

[asteroid]

Some type of memorial service for John Raffenello. To show that the FreeZone values people as people and not as disposable cogs in the $cientology money machine.

OH GOD YES. Absolutely.

I know John attended the conference for several years running, though I met him (only briefly) last year. I know there will be a big space in the room where he sat. I cannot imagine that this community would ignore that absence.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

My favourite idea would be to have a good supply of vodka and mixers on all the conference tables. Let em get well sloshed and talk themselves blue in the face. They would blow a lot of BPC. Any exscn would.

 

[asteroid]

Stream it online with fair quality audio gear and no echo

That's already been discussed at length, I assure you. As well as a plan to let people know where-and-when it'll be online.

The issue is finding someone who'll be attending that has a clue about getting, using, and setting up the video equipment, followed by effectively turning into Youtube-able files. 'Tis not I, I'm afraid. If you know of anyone suitable, please do let me know.

 

[asteroid]

My favourite idea would be to have a good supply of vodka and mixers on all the conference tables. Let em get well sloshed and talk themselves blue in the face. They would blow a lot of BPC. Any exscn would.

Vodka? I'm more of a tequila gal. Or Riesling, ideally from the Mosel.

And hey, this takes place in a casino hotel in Reno. There's plenty of alcohol. Unfortunately most of it is crappy quality. (You notice that I know. And I absolutely was not sessionable on Sunday morning.)

...Personally, though, I prefer to blow BPC in session. It doesn't give me a hangover.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

Vodka? I'm more of a tequila gal. Or Riesling, ideally from the Mosel.

And hey, this takes place in a casino hotel in Reno. There's plenty of alcohol. Unfortunately most of it is crappy quality. (You notice that I know. And I absolutely was not sessionable on Sunday morning.)

...Personally, though, I prefer to blow BPC in session. It doesn't give me a hangover.

Alcohol can free tongues, and allow things to be said without too much thought, sometimes that can be a good thing and sometimes not. Poor quality booze is not really a good idea you get a hangover before you've finished getting merry.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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WARNING: I should be banned from this thread. Because I have low toned ideas that my reactive mind is urging me to post. Like this one:

WHAT WOULD MY IDEAL
FREEZONE CONVENTION INCLUDE?

ANSWER: A laugh track.

REASON: In order to balance
mass and insignificance.

​

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

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WARNING: I should be banned from this thread. Because I have low toned ideas that my reactive mind is urging me to post. Like this one:

WHAT WOULD MY IDEAL
FREEZONE CONVENTION INCLUDE?

ANSWER: A laugh track.
In order to balance
mass and insignificance.

​

That is hilarious.

It's also true.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

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WARNING: I should be banned from this thread. Because I have low toned ideas that my reactive mind is urging me to post. Like this one:

WHAT WOULD MY IDEAL
FREEZONE CONVENTION INCLUDE?

ANSWER: A laugh track.
In order to balance
mass and insignificance.

​

As long as it's your reactive mind or your BTs urging you to post that should be fine. Relax, sit back and spectate.

 

[Udarnik]

Seriously?

A repudiation of Hellen Chen and her baby-killing Indie org in Taiwan. Convince me you're not just Laffy Lite waiting for some decent organizer to turn you back into an organization of monsters, and I might lay off on the J&D.

A little.

 

[Terril park]

Vodka? I'm more of a tequila gal. Or Riesling, ideally from the Mosel.

And hey, this takes place in a casino hotel in Reno. There's plenty of alcohol. Unfortunately most of it is crappy quality. (You notice that I know. And I absolutely was not sessionable on Sunday morning.)

...Personally, though, I prefer to blow BPC in session. It doesn't give me a hangover.

I know my quality Reisling. I'm sure we can both be sessionable sometime somewhere.

Fuck BPC!!

 

[Veda]

By Rey's definition... probably.

Keep in mind that one attribute of the freezone is that we do not necessarily agree with one another. Some people in the Indy field I find... odd. Or at least I don't see things the way they do. That's okay, because to a segment of the community I absolutely am a squirrel, as I don't follow KSW to the letter. So Rey may have some ideas I disagree with. Surely he would be surprised by some of mine. Some of my KSW friends would think, "Is she _nuts_?!" ...and it doesn't keep us from having a good time for a weekend.

But honestly that makes me appreciate it more. One thing I left behind in the C of S is the perception that we all have to believe or behave in one particular way. I cherish our ability to disagree, and our freedom to do so, and most especially the fact that we respect each other even when we have really different viewpoints.

After all, we don't learn anything if we only listen to those with whom we already agree.

Thanks for the response.

What views would you say those attending share?

There must be some commonality, even in a "big tent."

 

[L Ron Hubbard]

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WARNING: I should be banned from this thread. Because I have low toned ideas that my reactive mind is urging me to post. Like this one:

WHAT WOULD MY IDEAL
FREEZONE CONVENTION INCLUDE?

ANSWER: A laugh track.
In order to balance
mass and insignificance.

​

Will they clap at a picture of Ron? That in itself is a gut buster of hilarious magnitudeness.

 

[Anonycat]

Will they clap at a picture of Ron? That in itself is a gut buster of hilarious magnitudeness.

Since LaFayette would Declare the lot of them SPs, they might decide to destroy themselves, utterly and without sorrow, as Source demands. Ron said it, not me. I didn't think one could call themself a scientologist without adhering to the requirements of qualifying as a scientologist. Is it required that scientologists lie to themselves, and shun Source? No. It is required that they follow it.

 

[rich]

It should open with the galactic patrol marching song.

Also, your attempt to recruit on this site is not appreciated, even if it is done transparently.

Actually, asteroid is welcome here. And welcome to recruit .

 

[Anonycat]

Actually, asteroid is welcome here. And welcome to recruit .

oneone said: not appreciated. I think that's fair to say. Count the Likes, etc., and let us know what you've found. You might be eating crow and apologizing.

 

[Veda]

It should open with the galactic patrol marching song.

Also, your attempt to recruit on this site is not appreciated, even if it is done transparently.

This is the 'Freezone, Independents, and other flavors of Scientology' section.

It's an entry point for people still recovering from Scientology, and who still have an interest in the "tech."

Sometimes people arrive here - in this section - and then change their views.

That, of course, can take time, but it does occur.

From 1983: Most of these people eventually moved beyond Scientology.​

 

[asteroid]

Seriously?

A repudiation of Hellen Chen and her baby-killing Indie org in Taiwan. Convince me you're not just Laffy Lite waiting for some decent organizer to turn you back into an organization of monsters, and I might lay off on the J&D.

A little.

What, we're not allowed to be jokers? YEAH RIGHT LIKE THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN.

(I can take what I'm doing seriously. I try not to take _myself_ seriously, though.)

I honestly don't know to what you're referring with "Hellen Chen and her baby-killing Indie org in Taiwan;" it hasn't been on my radar. But I would consider a reasonable answer to my question to be, "A discussion of ethics in the freezone, including how much oversight any of us should have over the actions of someone else." Because that's a serious question. Not just in regard to "baby-killing" (whatever that may refer to), but at a minor level as well. What if a few FZ auditors learn that another auditor is giving poor service (which here I'd define as "the person paying the bills is unhappy with the result")? If we're all independent, should we be telling someone else how to run his business? ...and everything else that falls out of that.

In my own view, there are multiple reasons for us to get together. One is purely social -- and that was enough of a reason for me to attend, last year. I got to hug people in-person whom I've known online for 15+ years. Another is exchanging technology "tips and tricks" by whatever name. And yet another is the "admin side," if you will, such as the question above, or how a FZ auditor should market her services, etc.

 

[asteroid]

I know my quality Reisling. I'm sure we can both be sessionable sometime somewhere.

Fuck BPC!!

Are you coming? ARE YOU ARE YOU?

(I need another hug from you.)

 

[Boomima]

Isn't it fair that people express their distaste? I haven't read any posts that suggest that anyone should be banned but if you put an idea out on a open forum, you are going to get the feedback you get.

I hear there is a place where only nice things are said about Scientology. .