who are these "leaders"

[Spirited]

anyone know who these 2 scio leaders are from 4:22 in this vid? and the 3 people at the table following? i'm just curious as it didnt say who they were. vid only uploaded a few days ago i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGnVPNqU5d0

 

[Lynn Fountain Campbell]

At 7:35 is Mario Feninger, famous concert pianist from the '50s. He says he was not informed about all of this. Probably true. They probably gave him some "shore story" to get him to come along with them and told him nothing so any responses he made would sound sincere, since he never knew the back story. They were using his good name to give themselves credibility, IMHO. They didn't have Cruise and Travolta in those days.

Lynn

 

[Wisened One]

W--O--W!!

What an awesome, extremely informative video! (Know it's from quite a long time ago, but still).

And lol about the CAN take-over. I still remember the Event when DM announced that and how weird I felt even THEN about it...

 

[Spirited]

Thanks Lynn.

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

I am not totally sure but I think David Gaiman was the older fellow at 4:22 the younger guy I don't recognize.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gaiman

anyone know who these 2 scio leaders are from 4:22 in this vid? and the 3 people at the table following? i'm just curious as it didnt say who they were. vid only uploaded a few days ago i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGnVPNqU5d0

 

[Hatshepsut]

Boy, that video is creepy. It could make for an episode of "Tales from the Darkside."
I remember selling 50 Dianetics books back in 1980 to my co-workers and customers. When the mayor of Clearwater started to get attacked I got a lot of backlash up here in Orlando. It was embarrassing then and it is now. My book sales dropped.
To think that I believed that what we had was so valuable that anything done in the name of preserving the church was justifiable. Anything! There's that Hitler Youth mentality.

 

[Spirited]

I am not totally sure but I think David Gaiman was the older fellow at 4:22 the younger guy I don't recognize.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gaiman

thanks for that. that makes sense.
i think i saw the same two guys in an old television scio debate that Nibs was in as well.

 

[Tim Skog]

Yes, that was David Gaiman who was the GO PR WW at the time and Ken Whitman who was the GO PR US.

 

[Spirited]

Yes, that was David Gaiman who was the PR WW at the time and Ken Whitman who was the PR US.

thanks Tim.
whats with the priest outfit? GO and priest collar dont seem to go together?
anyone know who the two women are at the restaurant table with mario feninger?

 

[Tim Skog]

thanks Tim.
whats with the priest outfit? GO and priest collar dont seem to go together?
anyone know who the two women are at the restaurant table with mario feninger?

Sorry Spirited, I don't know who the two women with Mario are. They appear to be parishioners.

The thing with the minister's collar on Ken Whitman was typical PR "image-making" that many of the PR's in the GO did at that time. Looked stupid back then and it looks stupid now, especially when you are getting pwned by Mike Wallace on 60 minutes.

 

[Spirited]

Sorry Spirited, I don't know who the two women with Mario are. They appear to be parishioners.

The thing with the minister's collar on Ken Whitman was typical PR "image-making" that many of the PR's in the GO did at that time. Looked stupid back then and it looks stupid now, especially when you are getting pwned by Mike Wallace on 60 minutes.

yeah i'll say. did look daft. all part of the "saintly" image i suppose.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

The first part of the 60 Minutes video was mike wallace looking very young. It had to be 1976 or 77. The second part with Lesley Stahl was later.

I never saw these videos before today.

I left the Co$ in 1976, but I have to tell you: MY KNEE JERK REACTION was to justify and make right the dirty tricks.

Mike Wallace's question, each perfectly logical brought me around to sensible thinking.

In hindsight, I had no idea my abilities to think logically had been so abused and deadened.

Now I understand a little bit better how perfectly good intelligent people, who happen to be friends of mine, still hang in there with the Co$.

What an eye opener!

 

[Veda]

anyone know who these 2 scio leaders are from 4:22 in this vid? and the 3 people at the table following? i'm just curious as it didnt say who they were. vid only uploaded a few days ago i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGnVPNqU5d0

This video has been posted several times in the past on ESMB. Good to see that it's finally penetrating. This is a glimpse at pre-Miscavige Scientology, while many of us were IN, selectively un-looking at much of the craziness and darkness, or justifying it, while having our wins, etc.

All the parties seem to have been identified along the course of this thread.

Enlightening isn't it?

 

[GreyWolf]

Great Vid!