James Barbour convicted of child molestation headlines Scientology religious event

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  1. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Re: James Barbour convicted of child molestation headlines Scientology religious even

    Could do things like Ron. In January of 1952 he's 40 and impregnates his 18 year old student, Mary Sue, and marries her three months later when he's 41 and she's 18.

    Isn't there something in the supervisor's code about 2D and students?
     
  2. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

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    For any that don't know, the age of consent in England is 16 (since 1885). One could argue that 15 is under 16, just as 15 is under 18, and they are the same. One could also argue differently.

    Paul
     
  3. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

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    ANOTHER EDIT TO ADD:

    The Weekly Vice: Disney Actor James Barbour Blames Child After Fondling Her Sexually
    http://www.theweeklyvice.com/2008/01/disney-actor-james-barbour-blames-child.html

    Excerpt:
     
  4. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

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    That friend of yours is probably still on the sex offenders register. I don't think anyone ever gets to clear their name after many years and after being married he will still have problems in getting certain jobs.

    An 18 year old with a 15 year old is naughty, but a 15 year old with 40 year old is not the same thing, and I don't think the abuse of the authority that age gives should be treated lightly. 60 days for what he did is unbelievable. He must have paid a lot to his lawyers to get away that lightly.
     
  5. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

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    Not true. The manner which courts treat sex offenders in the UK is much more lenient than the U.S.

    "Police have removed the names after a human rights ruling, which came into effect in September last year, meant that criminals could apply to have their names removed on the grounds that they no longer posed a threat."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...offenders-secretly-removed-from-register.html
     
  6. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

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    Well I didn't know that. Out of 24000 on the register 43 have had their names cleared. The police have enough to do without monitoring the sex habits of someone now in their forties fifties or sixties who had sex with someone when they were both teenagers, and who have been clean ever since. There is paedophilia and there is teenage sex the two are not the same. There had been cases of two kids both under age who now were grown up and the guy was on the sex register decades after consensual sex between teenagers. It was statutory rape because of her age not because she was objecting, and often the boy was the same age. That to me is a waste of police time. The police are now very experienced in child molestation cases and have brought a few celebrities to justice, in the UK. We are not soft on paedophiles, big celebrity Rolf Harris is doing a 5 year sentence. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28564695 a recent campaign rounded up 600 people previously unknown to the police.
     
  7. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

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    I know people are different, and there are variations in individual maturity levels, etc., but generally, yes.

    Generally speaking there is a LOT of difference between 15 year-old girls and 17 year-old girls. For the majority of girls those two years make a HUGE difference.

    The line has to be drawn somewhere.

    Society has determined that a man who fondles (i.e., in this case touches her vagina and has her touch his penis), and has oral sex with a 15 year-old girl who is twenty years his junior is a criminal and, to be perfectly honest, a scum sucking piece of shit.

    I for one don't have any problem with that determination.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2014
  8. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

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    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/james-barbour.html

    James Barbour in Scientology's Published Service Completion Lists

    The following 8 individual completions for James Barbour appear in official Scientology publications:

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    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]PURIFICATION RUNDOWN[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 357[/TD]
    [TD]2004-04-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]BASIC STUDY MANUAL[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 357[/TD]
    [TD]2004-04-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]SCIENTOLOGY DRUG RUNDOWN[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 363[/TD]
    [TD]2004-12-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]HAPPINESS RUNDOWN AUDITING[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 365[/TD]
    [TD]2005-04-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]PTS/SP Course[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 367[/TD]
    [TD]2005-07-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]ARC STRAIGHTWIRE AUDITING[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 367[/TD]
    [TD]2005-07-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]GRADE 0 COMMUNICATIONS RELEASE[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 370[/TD]
    [TD]2005-12-01[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]HUBBARD QUALIFIED SCIENTOLOGIST COURSE[/TD]
    [TD]Celebrity 370[/TD]
    [TD]2005-12-01

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    [/TABLE]

    Note: The dates listed above are the approximate publication dates of the magazines, which may be weeks or months later than the actual date the service was completed.

    [HR][/HR]James Barbour in Scientology's Publications

    The following 1 mentions of James Barbour appear in official Scientology publications:[TABLE="width: 0"]
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    [TD]James Barbour[/TD]
    [TD]Honor Roll[/TD]
    [TD]Impact 114[/TD]
    [TD]2006-09-01[/TD]
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  9. BardoThodol

    BardoThodol Silver Meritorious Patron

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    Here in town they're only $70 for a private class. Not so bad when compared to a lot of private lessons.

    Was looking at YouTube. Juliu Hovath is in pretty good shape for someone born in 1942. Very fluid body movements.

    Think I'll look into this.
     
  10. Out4long

    Out4long Patron

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    If this teen age girl had had a REAL father, Barbour would have spent more time in a hospital than he ended up spending in jail... :angry:
     
  11. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

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    If the father had put the man in hospital he would himself be in prison for GBH, the child would have no father and so would be unprotected from further abuse from any randy grunt, not a good outcome in my books.
     
  12. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

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    It's a form of Pilates which is the craze among young people & celebs here in La-La Land. http://www.corestrengthwichita.com/optimal_athletic_Performance.htm
     
  13. Out4long

    Out4long Patron

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    Who would be stupid enough to do it personally in NYC when you can hire someone for about 10 C notes? Seriously, I'm talking about a father with an IQ > a cricket. :duh:
     
  14. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

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    As we were not there & don't know the full scope of what happened, it would be silly to call the father weak. There is alot about the Barbour case that the public doesn't know. Was there a civil settlement between the parents & Barbour? He was a big Broadway celebrity at the time. A civil lawsuit would have made all the NY newspapers. Alot was done behind closed doors.

    I suspect Barbour paid handsomely for his crime & a gag agreement was in place. The victim has never talked to the media about what occurred. Sadly, these kind of statutory crimes, involving wide-eyed aspiring actresses (and actors) occurs all the time. Because of the bad exposure they bring, celebs are quick to brush them under the rug with quiet cash settlements.

    This speaks volumes: "The now-20-year-old woman, who is working in the theater, came forward only recently – just within the five-year statute of limitations."

    http://missingexploited.com/2006/12...criminal-sex-acts-sexual-abuse-against-a-teen

    Did James Barbour commit a crime? Yes. Did he blame the victim? Yes. But, it sounds like, given the leniency in sentencing & the fact that Barbour didn't have to register as a sex offender, that the victim's parents & Barbour share some accountability for the sequence of events that led up to the charges.

    Why did the parents wait almost 5 years to call the police?
     
  15. Out4long

    Out4long Patron

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    He plead to specific, detailed crimes. Those are enough for me to have had him put in the hospital (if it was my daughter) for a few months. Her father isn't worth his weight in raw sewage.

    I've NEVER killed or seriously injured a man who didn't need it. I'm real particular 'bout that.
     
  16. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

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    Are you promoting voi a lence?
     
  17. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

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    I know I'm naive, but I thought that was what the police and justice chaps were for. Anyway once in prison just let the other prisoners know why he is there, and save the money.
     
  18. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

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    You're entitled to your opinion, but if the father had gone after Barbour & physically attacked him, he would have found himself behind bars with a criminal record. As a paralegal, I can tell you that if a quiet civil settlement had been reached between Barbour & the parents, it would not have happened if the father attacked Barbour.

    Just my 2 cents. :)
     
  19. Out4long

    Out4long Patron

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    I haven't been around scn'ers in years. I had forgotten about the go easy attitude towards child molesters & abusers that pervades people who still practice the subject. :sorry:
     
  20. Out4long

    Out4long Patron

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    Not my opinion. Read the court transcripts. He plead guilty to what he did. It is no more my opinion than it is that the sun was shining on my house today.
     

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