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MrNobody

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

That's a very kind offer MrN. As a matter of fact, the neck that has the Fender machine heads is a piece of shit with respect to it's intonation, otherwise I'd just replace the newer neck with it. The newer neck is in a different league, but the machine heads are of inferior quality. Swings 'n' roundabouts eh? C'est la vie.

A neck that has problems with intonation? Huh? What, are the frets misplaced? So what? Un-fret it, sand the fingerboard down to where it is straight and even, re-fret it properly and you might have a guitar with a damn fine neck.

If it's just the un-even height of the frets, sand 'em down until they're even. 1000 grit sandpaper might be best for the beginning, but switch to 2000 or even 2500 grit ASAP.

Or is it just that you've tightened up the truss rod a bit too much?
 
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Gizmo

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Look what all the 440 / 432 discussion has brought forth !

I must congratulate our Leader for introducing the 440 / 432 conversation !

It seems to have brought some serious & most useful information on tuning by real professional musicians !

This has become very interesting as it gets into the subtle nuances of making an instrument perform correctly.

Hopefully soon a whole different range of instruments will be brought into the mix & an online band - if not orchestra - will be formed ( fixed? ) right here on the Apollo Thread !

Isn't that exciting ?

Love & Blessing to all ! ( in or out of whatever the "correct" key might be)
 
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Maria Cuervo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Hey this is way off topic but I think This guy is really a genius when it comes to building a toy for his kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6zseFi070E

Actually that is a perfect picture of what philosophy wishes it was. Orderly, systematic, logical. Hubbard's swill may not be philosophy but most philosophy suffers from the same misplaced desire as Hubbard for a standardized truth. It's just that in the pecking order of screw-ups Hubbard is a bit deeper in the doo-doo than the rest of the pompous scientists up there on Laputa doing their delusional experiments on how to improve life. As if that was necessary.

Sorry for the interruption to this program schedule.
 

SPsince83

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Ah Ha Great minds think alike. I bought a used Fender Squire Bullet from Guitar Center for $50, put some Canadian Rylander Vintage Sound pickups in for $90 and the thing became my garage beater. When I get frustrated on some project I come in and play the blues for a few minutes to bring my blood pressure down then I'm good for another hour or so. :hysterical:

Now I wish I had waited to buy some Fender Texas Special pull outs for cheap. Lotta young thrashers are opting upgrade from Specials to Seymour Duncans. Its creeping elegance.

But your right, CNC has made precision in guitars plentiful. Its the metal parts tuners and bridges that are slop. The Chinese seem to go beyond tool wear out just to get quantities out the door. Tolerances suffer like mad.

The best locking tuners I have seen are the PRS lockers. They have a thumb screw that tightens down on the string so it cant slip.


PRS is one of the few who still care. Even the Korean made SE Santanas are well made.
 

Gizmo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

OK, how many ESMB members have word-cleared everything the guy in the video said, to a full, complete, conceptual understanding? :biggrin:

I didn't did it. :biggrin:

But, I pacificly do : Send Love & Blessings to each & everyone of you !
 
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MrNobody

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Re: Look what all the 440 / 432 discussion has brought forth !

I must congratulate our Leader for introducing the 440 / 432 conversation !

It seems to have brought some serious & most useful information on tuning by real professional musicians !

This has become very interesting as it gets into the subtle nuances of making an instrument perform correctly.

Hopefully soon a whole different range of instruments will be brought into the mix & an online band - if not orchestra - will be formed ( fixed? ) right here on the Apollo Thread !

Isn't that exciting ?

Love & Blessing to all ! ( in or out of whatever the "correct" key might be)

I've already brought the Saz into the mix, which, additional to the internationally accepted tones and half-tones, also contains a few 1/3 tones.

What else do you want? :biggrin:
 
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Gizmo

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Re: Look what all the 440 / 432 discussion has brought forth !

I've already brought the Saz into the mix, which, additional to the internationally accepted tones and half-tones, also contains a few 1/3 tones.

What else do you want? :biggrin:

As usual, I want it all baby ! :biggrin:
 
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strativarius

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

A neck that has problems with intonation? Huh?

Yup, 'fraid so MrN.

What, are the frets misplaced?

You got it in one!

So what? Un-fret it, sand the fingerboard down to where it is straight and even, re-fret it properly and you might have a guitar with a damn fine neck.

If I could do that I'd be a very happy bunny. Doubtless I could check the internet on exactly how to do it but I'm absolutely crap at woodwork so I'm not even going to attempt it even if I had the tools - which I don't.

If it's just the un-even height of the frets, sand 'em down until they're even. 1000 grit sandpaper might be best for the beginning, but switch to 2000 or even 2500 grit ASAP.
Last time I tried that stunt on a guitar I ended up having to refret the whole neck. DOH! (That I did manage successfully.)

Or is it just that you've tightened up the truss rod a bit too much?

No, I never had to meddle with the truss rod. Nice low action, slightly concave relief, steady as she goes. :)
 

SPsince83

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Re: Look what all the 440 / 432 discussion has brought forth !

I've already brought the Saz into the mix, which, additional to the internationally accepted tones and half-tones, also contains a few 1/3 tones.

What else do you want? :biggrin:

I realize you jazzbos are technique snobs, but you know you can bend strings to get any 1/4, 1/3 or 1/5 tone you want, right? Check out Albert King sometime:stir:
 

Maria Cuervo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;QexOuH8GS-Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexOuH8GS-Y[/video]

:biggrin:
 

Free Being Me

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

What a pathetic response!. An honest question is asked about a post with defective logic; instead of answering the question or fixing the defective post, a straw man is set up called overthinking and attacked so as to deflect attention away from the defective post This is very amateurish and is really a bunch of bullshit masquerading as wisdom. I ASK YOU WHO IS BEING HONEST AND WHO IS BEING DISHONEST?

This cheap technique is designed to deflect attention away from a flawed post so that post can stand unchallenged. If this cheap technique is accepted without challenge then any poster can write anything they like whether it is true or not and get away with it by simply bashing the person who noticed that the post had serious flaws. i ASK YOU ONCE MORE, WHO IS BEING HONEST AND WHO IS BEING DISHONEST?

This post is supporting the concept of "Truth be Damned", It says to us, "My friend has the right to write any statement she wants. It matters not if it makes any sense or not". "The important thing here is that my friend's attacker is using a technique called "overthinking". Beware of overthinking because it is a very dangerous technique used to deceive people while giving the appearance of being fair and honest.

One flaw in your "argument", FBM, is that I have been here as the OP of this thread for 6 1/2 years. If people should be aware of me as you suggest, I wouldn't have lasted 6 1/2 weeks. I am still around after all this time because I FOCUS ON TELLING THE TRUTH, NOT ON JUSTIFYING WHY THE TRUTH NEED NOT BE TOLD.
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