The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I wanted to comment a little more on deli's Besides Jewish delis, you have deli style foods originating in many Eastern European countries as well as the German speaking countries of Germany and Austria. Italy also has a deli tradition but theirs is much more localized to just Italy than all the others are.

Probably, you could go in and order a corned beef or pastrami sandwich with a bowl of borscht (beet soup often served with a side of sour cream) and a side of potato salad in any of a number of delis and get basically the same thing. You could get this same meal in a Jewish deli, a German deli, a Polish deli, a Czech deli or a Russian deli. Particularly in the use of meats and also pickles, all these various delis are going to appear similar. I believe that they may all be lumped together under the broad category of "New York style Delis. Why is this? Probably because New York City has restaurants featuring virtually every delicatessen style of food currently existing on Earth.

The origin of some of the dishes is fairly obvious but others are complex. I just Googled potato pancakes and found out they have origins in Austrian, Germanic, Russian and Jewish cooking. Apple strudel, a delicious apple filled light pastry has origins with the Czechs and the Germans and has been adopted by the Jews. Ditto for Lager beer and Pilsner beer. Those beer and pastry products probably come from what was once the German speaking part of the Czech Republic, the Sudatenland.

An interesting thought is that German and Polish cultures do not seem to overlap at all and yet both cultures developed the same type of delicatessen meats, Knockwurst, Bratwurst and various pork derived products. Also, there is the Polka dance, the name definitely reveals a Polish origin but then the Germans dance that dance in their Oktoberfest celebrations every year. This is probably an outgrowth of German expansion under Bismark in the 19th century plus the disappearance of Poland from the map for a fairly long period of time. During those times, 18th and 19th century, the German state of East Prussia encompassed most or all of what is now Poland. The two peoples must have intermingled quite a bit and as a result, developed some foods and dances which were very similar, if not identical.

This type of thing is very interesting to me. Maybe, I'll do a bit of research on it and write up my results on the thread. Don't worry, I'll keep it short!
Lakey

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

FATHERS DAY 2015
I'm back now about 8:20 AM and had a great time, I never really stopped smiling the whole day. My kids arrived about 4:20 and gave me a very nice card. We then drove to the New York Jewish style deli and bakery. My son showed me an Idiom Site on his cell phone. He said that he was really into idioms. The three of us spent 5 or 10 minutes trying to dig up interesting idioms and discuss them. It was a lot of fun and I think knowing these may be valuable for an attorney such as my son.

By the way, My daughter drove us to the restaurant in her new Honda Civic, it is extremely nice. The car is quite a bit quieter and has a smoother ride than my Mazda 3. Also, the dash on the Honda may have more of a luxury feel to it than the Mazda 3 but the Mazda 3 seems to use slightly higher grade interior materials, a bit more soft touch materials and a bit less hard plastics. The Mazda's trump cards are good handling, zippiness, a high fun to drive quotient and high fuel economy.

The Honda Civic is also good in all these departments. The Mazda might have a little more zip and feel a tad sportier but it is close. On the highway my Mazda is rated at 41 mpg and the Civic is 38 mpg, not really enough difference to matter. My daughter's car has all the new electronic toys such as back up camera, blind spot warning assistance, blue tooth, etc. Actually, my model came with blue tooth standard and blue tooth costs between $50 to $100 extra as an add on to the Honda. There are so many excellent cars to check out in this class. There are no lemons anymore. Corolla, VW Golf, Ford Focus, Chevy Cruze, Hyundai, Kia, no one is going to go wrong choosing any of those vehicles.

I asked my daughter about her social life and she had nothing new to tell me. She has a job as a junior exec in the hiring department of her company and has her own private office. That is a first for her and is really big deal for her as well.. Needless to say, she really loves her job.

My ex wife showed up and we all ordered. Each of us had an alcoholic beverage, I had a Cours Light on tap. We had wonderful conversations, talking about all sorts of things. One topic concerned what other relatives were doing. My son is now friends with two of his cousins and my cousin, his uncle, has hired his law firm to serve as his corporate attorney. I was very surprised and very happy to hear all this skinny. The food was excellent by the way!

After the early dinner, we all went into the bakery. The other 3 bought several pastries to take home. I had enough will power to resist. My ex has been semi starving herself on 1400 calories a day and exercising about 2 hours a day on a treadmill and an elliptical. She says she lost 3 of the 10 lbs which she had recently put on. She really looks great for her age!

I had my ex take a picture of me standing with my arms around the two kids, behind my daughter's new car. Then my son took another picture of me standing with my arms around my daughter and my ex. I would love to post them here but I have been told by them not to do that. No one in their circle of friends has anything to do with CoS and they want to keep it that way.

On the drive back to my place me and the kids talked about first names and how they have changed over the years. We tried to think up some old ones such as Bartholomew, Julius, Constance, Constantine, Betty, etc. plus newer names, Grant, Madison, Lincoln, etc. It seems like many presidential last name are now first names
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Overall, it was a wonderful time, only 4 hours but every minute packed with fun. They are great kids, super smart, good senses of humor and good values. It was touch and go for awhile, several barriers to get to this point, but the bottom line is that we had high expectations for our kids and they have exceeded those expectations!! Me and my ex love them very much!
Lakey

This is wonderful Lakey!!!

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Please watch the first minute (intro) of this The Thin Blue Line episode.

Substitute the word 'youth' OR 'young' for the word 'cos' or 'scientologist.' Also check out the snazzy non-SO uniform.

Happy Father's day to all fathers!

[video=youtube;H3XW4t87gtc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3XW4t87gtc[/video]

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

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[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;tTv5ckMe_2M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTv5ckMe_2M[/video]

Methinks the ethics officer is not pleased with the answer received.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Gol darn. Can 'we' do this?

https://youtu.be/NK7ulDQ5h8Y

 

[Hatshepsut]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

You are too much Hats, with your extremely creative and graphic posting!! I can just visualize you in your disco heels, walking to the Jewish Deli in Miami to grab lunch and be well fed for your afternoon session at the Miami Org. From what I've heard about your appearance in those days, you must have caused quite a stir!

In the area where the old CCLA was on W.8th St., there was a large Jewish Deli there as well called Langer's. It is catty corner from Mac Arthur Park on Wilshire Blvd. at Alvarado. The L.A. Org, CCLA and AOLA were all once just a couple of blocks from there.

To my astonishment, Langer's is still there. That area of L.A. has really morphed. When the Org's were still there 40 years ago, it was sort of a rundown area except for Wilshire Blvd. itself with all of its high rise buildings. I had occasion to drive through there recently and the area no longer looks like the USA, it looks more like an area in a 3rd world country. The sidewalks are filled with people wall, to wall, from building to curb, you will find vast numbers of people from all over the world, walking those sidewalks. Non of the people appear as if they have much money but that is not all bad.

You see a lot of families our for walks together, maybe Latino, maybe Asian, maybe from the middle East. A lot of the families dress nicely and they walk the sidewalks with their families, buying groceries or household goods. Parking is almost impossible. There is definitely a gang element and a drug element mixed in with all the families. Langer's deli is still operating right in the middle of this 3rd world type of neighborhood that central L.A. has become.
Lakey

I remember my first trip to LA in 81. The letters on the landmark Hollywood Hill were missing here and there. Not always the same ones. And once in a while a letter was turned on its side. I remember taking a bus to a NY style restaurant which was built like an I HOP. The stop where I waited was by the Chinese theater. I always thought it would be so glamorous to visit that landmark. There were a bunch of street people around and it felt like a NY subway car with standing room only during that short ride. I was really shocked seeing the degeneration. And I had an Aunt who worked at that restaurant in the late 70s. Her fav regular customer was Jimmy Stewart who normally came for breakfast ....so she said.

Interesting slideshow of the different angles on this page's header below:

http://hollywoodsign.org/the-history-of-the-sign/

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...ng-gets-facelift/story-e6frfq80-1226497206161

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I remember my first trip to LA in 81. The letters on the landmark Hollywood Hill were missing here and there. Not always the same ones. And once in a while a letter was turned on its side. I remember taking a bus to a NY style restaurant which was built like an I HOP. The stop where I waited was by the Chinese theater. I always thiught it would be so glamorous to visit that landmark. There were a bunch of street people around and it felt like a NY subway car with standing room only during that short ride. I was really shocked observing the degeneration. And I had an Aunt who worked at that restaurant in the late 70s. Her fav regular customer was Jimmy Stewart who normally came for breakfast ....so she said.

Interesting slideshow of the different angles on this page's header below:

http://hollywoodsign.org/the-history-of-the-sign/

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...ng-gets-facelift/story-e6frfq80-1226497206161

I believe that the Hollywood area has upgraded since 1981. In '81 it was not much above a slum and the people were weird. It was even referred to as Hollywierd. There were mainly hookers and druggies. Not much of the old historic Hollywood was left, maybe just a bit of the old flavor around Grauman's Chines Theater and that area in front of it were all the celebrities have their stars on the Walk of Stars and leave their hand prints in the cement.

I went there with Purple Haze on March 29 and saw the new HCO Documentary. The area is now much cleaner and better maintained than it was in '81. It looks like a lot of developmental money was poured in to help restore some of Hollywood's former glamour.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Putting on the Ritz - A great American song takes center stage in Moscow.

I give you Russian Soul, out on the streets of Moscow (note the music and dancing doesn't start until 1:00 into the video. Who ever would have guessed the the Russians on the street had so much soul?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXd3wX_USc

Lakey

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

There is a wonderful series called The Singing Detective, a BBC TV drama from 1986.

The main character, Philip Marlowe, is quite brilliant. Here's a sample quip. I had other quotes in mind but they aren't printable I'm afraid.

Philip Marlow: I used to think that all I wanted was the good opinion of honorable men and the ungrudging love of beautiful women. Now I know for sure that all I really want is a cigarette.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

There is a wonderful series called The Singing Detective, a BBC TV drama from 1986.

The main character, Philip Marlowe, is quite brilliant. Here's a sample quip. I had other quotes in mind but they aren't printable I'm afraid.

Philip Marlow: I used to think that all I wanted was the good opinion of honorable men and the ungrudging love of beautiful women. Now I know for sure that all I really want is a cigarette.

I had hear of Philip Marlowe well before that BBC series in the 1980's. I just looked it up on Wikipedia and the character was originated by a writer named Raymond Chandler in 1939. Chandler stated that his character just morphed out of the pulp magazines of the 1920's and 1930's. A series of movie's was made in the 1940's, it was a detective genre then in the same class as Daschiel Hammett's detective stories about Sam Spade, master detective. I though Phillip Marlowe might have been a radio show of the 40's but it turns out that was not the case. There was a TV show called Phillip Marlow, Private Eye which aired in the early 50's in the USA. That is probably how I heard about it. I recall the Marlowe character of that era being suave and sophisticated much like Nora and Nick Charles and their dog Asta were in the "Thin Man" series of detective movies.

It seems as if the BBC series resurrected the character in their series which ran from 1983 to 1986. Unfortunately, I never watched the BBC series and so cannot comment on that.
Lakey

 

[strativarius]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

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It seems as if the BBC series resurrected the character in their series which ran from 1983 to 1986. Unfortunately, I never watched the BBC series and so cannot comment on that.
Lakey

No Lakey, Writer Dennis Potter, not the BBC, created the character Philip E. Marlow as the main character in his serial drama 'The Singing Detective', and it's a great pity that you have never watched it as it was unforgettable IMO.

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

No Lakey, Writer Dennis Potter, not the BBC, created the character Philip E. Marlow as the main character in his serial drama 'The Singing Detective', and it's a great pity that you have never watched it as it was unforgettable IMO.

Yes, it is unforgettable. One of my favorite programs of all time.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

There are youtube clips. I'm sorry I missed this series

https://youtu.be/WUStvMsnNXM

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

[video=youtube;5rMB1YsqZdg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rMB1YsqZdg[/video]

That schoolmarm is terrifying! lol.

 

[Hypatia]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Hypatia, do you really live in Alexandria in Egypt? That would be fascinating if you actually lived there. They had a famous library there for many centuries with all the accumulated knowledge of mankind in ancient times. Eratosthenes, the dude who first developed the sieve to locate prime numbers and also was able to determine that the Earth's diameter was around 24,000 miles, at a time when it was believed that the Earth was flat, was once the curator of that famous library. I was always curious how that library came to end. Apparently, there were many who had agendas which were to suppress truth or who felt that other sources of truth had been found and that the contents of the library went against these new sources of truth. Various major fires occurred at the library starting in 391 AD and ending in 642 AD.

Yes, at the deli I went to yesterday, a plate of sour pickles is served with every lunch or dinner. You know, I think that may be a healthier alternative than putting out bread and butter to munch on while waiting for one's food to arrive. If not actually healthier, it is definitely a lower calorie alternative.
Lakey

My fave are the pickles that are crunchy and salty and less sour. Deli mavens call them half sours or fresh pickles.

I, too, admire Hypatia and Alexandria's history, before and after the destruction of the great library and that's why she's my ESMB persona.

I love history as much as I love deli pickles!!

 

[Terril park]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

My fave are the picklesones that are crunchy and salty and less sour. Deli mavens call them half sours or fresh pickles.

I, too, admire Hypatia and Alexandria's history, before and after the destruction of the great library and that's why she's my ESMB persona.

I love history as much as I love deli pickles!!

There was a terrific movie about her called "Agora".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1186830/

 

[strativarius]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

<video snipped - why post it again and make people with low powered machines like mine's life a misery?>

That schoolmarm is terrifying! lol.

'Thin Blue Line', 'The Singing Detective', you seem to like Brit TV M. I recommend 'Withnail and I' and 'The History Boys' if you haven't seen them.

 

[Maria Cuervo]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

'Thin Blue Line', 'The Singing Detective', you seem to like Brit TV M. I recommend 'Withnail and I' and 'The History Boys' if you haven't seen them.

Strativarius,

I have not seen them! Will be watching those next. :]

 

[strativarius]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Strativarius,

I have not seen them! Will be watching those next. :]

Good man! I forgot to include Joe Orton's 'Loot' and 'Trainspotting'. Indeed, if you read books, then any of Irvine Welsh's books will help you to get a first-hand insight into Brit culture and fine manners, sort of like the way reading Hunter S. Thompson is a guide to learning about north American culture and manners.

PS. Please be sure to let me know what you thought of the films ok?